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Offline Himrich

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« on: February 03, 2004, 12:37:01 PM »
When my PowerBook (running Panther 10.3.2) boots up I'm only seeing two things in the progress bar that scrolls across the startup screen. They are "Checking Disks" and "Waiting for Network Initialization." Also of note is that when the "Network" note is showing the progress bar is only about a third of the way across the scale and then it immediately disappears followed by the desktop appearing.

That seems strange since Jaguar showed a whole series of things loading, e.g. loading IP firewall, sharing internet services, and login window starting to name the last three. Plus the entire progress bar filled in before preceeding to the desktop. Just to rule out that this has something to do with a new aluminum PowerBook I installed the eDrive from the new TechTool Pro 4.0 disk and when booting off of it I see a normal load.

Anyone else experiencing this?
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2004, 03:34:05 PM »
QUOTE(Himrich @ Feb 3 2004, 6:37 PM)
That seems strange since Jaguar showed a whole series of things loading, e.g. loading IP firewall, sharing internet services, and login window starting to name the last three. Plus the entire progress bar filled in before preceeding to the desktop.

I've noticed the same thing. I believe what's happening is that Panther does all the same startup tasks as Jaguar, but does them much, much more quickly--so fast, in fact, that it doesn't have time to update the boot screen before it's done.

On my 600MHz Icebook, at least, Panther boots much faster than Jag.
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2004, 07:40:24 PM »
As tacit pointed out, it's all still there...and more, but it's fast.

If you feel adventuresome, press and hold command +v (that's the letter "v" for "verbose") during boot up and see what goes on behind the pretty bootup screen.

The start-up or boot-up sequence is also recorded in your /var/log/system.log which can be viewed with TextEdit.

or open the terminal and type dmesg for the same.

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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2004, 08:10:53 PM »
All good answers but then why am I able to view them when booting up under the other partition (eDrive created by TTP) on my hard drive?

Same machine, same operating system.

When I opened "dmesg" in Terminal I got some interesting stuff but how can I decifer it? How can I know if it isn't doing it right?

The reason I bring all this up is because I am still having issues with my PB not waking up after a night's sleep. I have run every possible test known to man and it is still occurring. After spending an hour on the phone with Apple today I'm convinced they don't know anything either.

I did have my book upgraded to 1 gig of RAM at MacMall and if I don't get a handle on this soon I will try to get them to replace it. That is the only thing remaining unchanged.

One thing I haven't yet tried is to put it to sleep in the Safe Mode and see if it happens or not. I suspect that if the memory is at fault it would fail me again.

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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2004, 10:21:56 AM »
I started up in Safe Boot last night and let it sleep all night. Everything was OK this morning which now brings be to another question, what is really happening when booting into this Safe mode?

Unlike the MacOS 9 days I don't see the Extensions that it is turning off, nor can I see a way to trouble shoot which one may be causing my problem. All the third party programs (Spell Catcher, QuicKeys and You Control) I have added are still available when in this safe mode even though I thought all startups were so suppose to be disabled.

I read this article about Safe Mode (http://www.osxfaq.com/dailytips/02-2003/02-25.ws) and suspect one of the kernel extensions that has been deactivated may be my problem. If one of them is the cause of my startup problem then how do I fix it? Or replace it? Or disactivate it alone?

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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2004, 11:28:04 AM »
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