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Offline ejc

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« on: February 03, 2004, 04:10:53 PM »
Hi,

I am a home user - still on OS 9 (tho. I have OS X). Infrequently I "play" with a graphics app. Bought CorelSuite at a knock-down price  a few years ago. It crashes occasionally - probably because I break the rules. But it seems not too bad - and contained an excellent tutorial.

When people are asked to nominate a graphics app. in forums (fora?)   nobody seems to nominate Corel. I sometimes wonder why?
Anybody care to comment?

BTW (and OT) I still like a DTP app. (originally developed for the Atari, and still regularly updated) "Calamus" which functions under an emulator on the Mac, and native under Wintel.

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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2004, 09:56:52 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2004, 10:41:22 PM »
I was tempted a few years ago to buy the Corel suite but already had Photoshop, Freehand and Painter and didn't see the need to basically start all over with new apps. And I subsequently got a real deal on Illustrator and other Adobe products as an educator.

I remember reading good reviews of the Corel applications but most of my work was being taken care of by the graphic apps I already had.

Unfortunately it's one of those cases where the incumbent (PhotoShop) is hard to unseat. Kinda like the MS vs Apple situation in a way.
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2004, 06:47:04 AM »
Hi Kelly,

Yes, I had missed that item, thanks.

As they say, the only thing constant is change

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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2004, 01:28:29 PM »
CorelDraw is a verrrry good product but... do not use it to make your graphics when they have to handed to printers or people who has to make corrections before printing.
Corel is verrry hard to securely convert to (to name one) Adobe Illustrator.
Knowing from my own experiences (Artwork-Design) i shiver when we get things from Corel.
A good thing that ArtPro (expensive Artwork software) can do a really good job on importing really hard and complex postscripts file, so this might work most of the time.

So, in short... Looking at the software CorelDraw itself, it's amazing what you can do with it.
But what you do with it, try to hold it for private use only, or go as far that "standard" printers for home and small offices can print it straight on without having to import it somewhere in other software.

As for CorelDraw into the professional market, i always try to avoid it and ask the people to convert their artwork to an Illustrator EPS is possible so they can check their own artwork on problems before sending it to us.
I do know CorelDraw exports to Illustrator, but lots of the build in functions from Corel do not get converted wel into an (encapsulated) Postscript file (or (e)ps file).

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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2004, 01:59:46 PM »
I second that notion ... keep Corel files to yourself and enjoy.  Corel has been notorious in the past for producing PostScript that didn't play well at all with others.

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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2004, 09:59:04 PM »
QUOTE(ejc @ Feb 3 2004, 10:10 PM)
When people are asked to nominate a graphics app. in forums (fora?)   nobody seems to nominate Corel. I sometimes wonder why?

 From the standpoint of someone who makes a living doing graphics and prepress:

Corel is fine for home amateur users who willonly print their stuff on consumer inkjet printers or want to make Web graphics. If your goal is professional printing or prepress, the Corel suite is a second-rate, poor-quality product that produces absolute garbage for press.

Every aspect of Corel's products, from color separations to color management to color correction to speed to PostScript output, is strictly second-class. CorelDRAW produces some of the worst PostScript output I've ever seen in my entire life, and does not always produce separations the way you expect. Corel Photo-Paint has so many problems I don't even have time to go into all of them--we'd both be here all night.

It's fine as long as you don't use it for professional work, but nothing in the Corel suite can hold a candle to Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, FreeHand, or any of the other top-ranked DTP and image editing applications.
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2004, 05:21:14 PM »
Thanks friends,

I just amuse myself with an occasional fantasy.

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2004, 10:39:56 PM »
Corel Painter 8.1 is great. I just wanted to to say that I was worried when Corel took it over but it works well with OS9 and OSX.
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