Post by: RHPConsult on June 04, 2006, 10:55:43 AM
Wishing to know if I had received his e-dispatch to me, he (and I) were required to wait . . . and wait . . . and wait, while Adobe made sure I knew everything unnecessary about its application, its couple of dozen patent numbers, its embedded PSE 3.0 bells-and-whistles, in a perplexingly lengthy display (for the 1000th time)! for all I know or care, the parking regulations and cafeteria prices at Corporate might be included in that irritating mess!
Each time PSE opens the same drill repeats . . . and repeats . . . and repeats
I fear I know the answer, but I'm going to ask the question, anyway: Does anyone know of any way to leap over all that nonsense to get PSE up and running, in a reasonably brief period of time? Is there a preference setting, somewhere, that can strip it?
I can't think of another manufacturer that does this . . . or does it as inconveniently/intrusively
Post by: swhitset on June 04, 2006, 11:27:05 AM
One solution (sort of) is just to keep it running and never close it I suppose.
Steve
Post by: RHPConsult on June 04, 2006, 11:34:43 AM
QUOTE(swhitset @ Jun 4 2006, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One solution (sort of) is just to keep it running and never close it I suppose.
Steve
Agreed, Steve. It's just "too high a price" to pay, for what – in this era of soaring standards of customer service – should be a given! Steve
Post by: Dick Miller on June 04, 2006, 11:53:13 AM
Post by: kps on June 04, 2006, 11:59:20 AM
Post by: swhitset on June 04, 2006, 12:02:35 PM
QUOTE(kps @ Jun 4 2006, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only way to fix your problem, Dick, is to get a faster machine.
Not really.... I have a 2.0 GHZ core duo Macbook Pro, and Photoshop still takes a bit to load. Of course Rosetta is involved, but if you are buying new.... Unless you get a quad G5 you aren't going to get a faster solution.
Steve
Post by: kps on June 04, 2006, 12:07:39 PM
Post by: swhitset on June 04, 2006, 12:28:00 PM
QUOTE(kps @ Jun 4 2006, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It was 'toungue-in-cheek', steve, but PS CS loads very quickly on my dualcore G5 when compared to my 1.2Ghz G4 or my 867Mhz powerbook.
I got the joke....
I was just pointing out that purchasing a new mac for faster photoshop processes is beginning to become somewhat limited due to the intel switch, and Adobe's decision to wait on the Universal binaries.
Post by: kps on June 04, 2006, 12:32:54 PM
Post by: swhitset on June 04, 2006, 12:41:45 PM
Once running, all menus were very snappy and you would never know you weren't running an Intel native App. I haven't tried any intensive renderings, but i'm sure there are benchmarks posted somewhere.
Steve
Post by: zampom on June 04, 2006, 01:04:09 PM
I guess load speed is relative. To offer an alternative. For those times when you are in a hurry, don't want to wait for PSE 3 to load, and don't have something to edit which requires a gazillion PS plug-ins and filters .... you may want to try one of these two alternatives (both of which are pretty darn good ... considering they are free!):
QuickImage - a CM plug-in which will quickly open, as well as edit, most images. Works with X.2 - X.4. I find I use more often than Preview to quickly check a graphic.
ToyViewer - a low overhead image editing application which works a little differently than most but, nevertheless, does a pretty good job and quickly. I find that ToyViewer is the perfect appliction for RAM challenged Macs and .... it's a UB. It does, however, require X.4.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 04, 2006, 02:43:55 PM
1. Make sure a largish window is open in somw/any other app.
2. Make sure it covers the screen real estate where the Elements splash screen appears.
3. Start up Elements.
4. Switch back to the other program.
5. Go get some coffee.
OR
Try memorizing your registration number while that screen is visible. BTW, all that info is also available in the "Help -> System Info" menu item.
Next!
Post by: RHPConsult on June 04, 2006, 05:09:50 PM
Enlightening thread, anyhow. Thanks, guys.
Special thanks, of course, to ABD for his usual perspicacity, in drafting this advisory!
QUOTE(airbusdriver @ Jun 4 2006, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Easy...Go get some coffee...Try memorizing your registration number while that screen is visible.
Post by: Gregg on June 04, 2006, 08:22:46 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 04, 2006, 08:24:52 PM
QUOTE
perspicacity
Sorry, I've never heard of that "city". Is it near <Possum Trot>? 
Post by: RHPConsult on June 04, 2006, 08:28:26 PM
Aloha
Post by: antony on June 04, 2006, 11:33:24 PM
QUOTE(RHPConsult @ Jun 5 2006, 01:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wishing to know if I had received his e-dispatch to me, he (and I) were required to wait . . . and wait . . . and wait, while Adobe made sure I knew everything unnecessary about its application, its couple of dozen patent numbers, its embedded PSE 3.0 bells-and-whistles, in a perplexingly lengthy display (for the 1000th time)! for all I know or care, the parking regulations and cafeteria prices at Corporate might be included in that irritating mess!
I am late to this thread. The way to speed up Photoshop Elements is to reduce unnecessary plugins.
I have an alternative solution... (avoid using Photoshop Elements when not needed.)
If you don't need to edit the image, you can simply use OS X's built-in Preview to view the image. It's a lot faster.
Simply select an image then View Info, under Open with, change it to "Preview", and apply "Change All".
If there are JPEG images that you wish to open in Photoshop Elements, you can drag it to Photoshop Elements or use context click(*) and Open With.
(*)context click is commonly known as right click.
If your edits are something basic (e.g. does not require any filters/effects), you can try ImageWell (it's quick and free).
My 7.01 cents.
A happy Photoshop Elements user. (I don't have full Photoshop.)
Post by: MamaMoose on June 05, 2006, 02:33:37 AM
MamaMoose
Post by: george on June 05, 2006, 03:32:50 AM
George.
aw shucks, everyone ignored my masterpiece the pic that caused the problem in the first place, oh well they say that all genius' are recognised after they have gone.
George.
Post by: Gregg on June 05, 2006, 07:37:35 AM
Post by: kimmer on June 05, 2006, 12:40:55 PM
Now, PSE 3 is here (arrived days before we moved, so it's never been installed) and I'm wondering if I really want to mess with what works.
Post by: Dick Miller on June 05, 2006, 12:51:36 PM
Dick
Post by: krissel on June 05, 2006, 10:43:23 PM
QUOTE(zampom @ Jun 4 2006, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I find that ToyViewer is the perfect appliction for RAM challenged Macs and .... it's a UB. It does, however, require X.4.
ToyViewer version for Panther is also available (4.80).
As to the screen loading all the plugins, fonts, etc. I found that very helpful in the olden days when PS would occasionally barf on startup. You could track down the problem area by where it stopped in the process.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 06, 2006, 09:11:03 AM
QUOTE
PS would occasionally barf on startup.
Hope you had one of those keyboard protectors! 
Post by: krissel on June 07, 2006, 02:03:47 AM
Always.
Post by: Thomas S. England on June 07, 2006, 03:54:59 AM
Post by: tacit on June 11, 2006, 07:32:54 PM
QUOTE(RHPConsult @ Jun 4 2006, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So the answer is . . . Adobe will always make everyone look at all that horsepucky (even at lightspeed for some fortunate "operators") no matter what!
Adobe is not just making you watch that because they want you to look; Photoshop and Photoshop Elements load as fast as they are able.
Photoshop and Photoshop Elements both are built on the same core. They do a i]lot[/i] of processing when they launch. For starters, they load and sanity-check a bunch of files (including the Preferences files, Action sets, color swatch sets, default tool sets, and so on), measures memory, loads and scans all of the fonts installed (if you have many fonts, that really bogs down launch), loads and scans all of the ICC profiles installed on the system, initializes the ICC color conversion engine, builds color separation tables, sets up a virtual memory pagefile (Photoshop does this when it launches, before it actually loads any files), sets up the user interface according to the preferences it reads, and so on.
Add Rosetta to the mix and it takes a lot longer. Photoshop in particular runs very poorly in Rosetta, in part because Photoshop has a lot of hand-written assembly-language routines designed for the particular architectural features of the PowerPC processor. This speeds its performance on G4 and G5 processors, but really causes problems in Rosetta; I'm actually kind of surprised Photoshop works in Rosetta at all.
It's not that Adobe's trying to bore you; it really is loading as fast as it can...
Post by: kcourt on June 11, 2006, 09:31:12 PM
Kathy
Post by: RHPConsult on June 12, 2006, 01:07:49 AM
Thanks.