Post by: Liz on July 17, 2006, 06:35:25 AM
I also have some saved in files. I would, however, like to be able to eliminate the other addresses that accumulate when one has been circulated alot.
Could someone give me the technique for achieving this?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 17, 2006, 08:25:50 AM
Post by: Liz on July 17, 2006, 09:08:56 AM
Post by: kimmer on July 17, 2006, 11:00:00 AM
Before you hit send, highlight the address in the TO line and change it to whomever you want.
The other alternative is to copy/paste the message into a text doc and spend hours removing all the junk. That's a lot of work unless it's really priceless.
Have fun!
Post by: weldiger on July 17, 2006, 04:53:21 PM
Then I send, and only to one person at a time, or use blind cc if I want to send to many.
If something really bad or good is supposed to happen to me if I don't send it - I usually don't send it.
To each his-her own - your mileage may vary.
For good one0liners, I file away, and occasionally use in my email signatures.
such as:
God gives the nuts, but he doesn't crack them. --
Unknown(German proverb)
I know some that are already cracked.
weldiger
Shalom
weldiger
Post by: sunset on July 24, 2006, 12:12:22 AM
I'm not familiar with Thunderbird but this is what I've always done: drag to highlight the part of the message you want to copy, excluding all those addresses. This can include graphics as well as the text. Then just hold down the Apple key and tap the 'c'.
Click in the message area of a 'new message' window and paste what you've just copied, Apple/v. Just type in the person's address and the Subject line. It's easy and quick.
Laurel
Post by: Liz on July 24, 2006, 07:42:48 AM
QUOTE(sunset @ Jul 24 2006, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Liz,
I'm not familiar with Thunderbird but this is what I've always done: drag to highlight the part of the message you want to copy, excluding all those addresses. This can include graphics as well as the text. Then just hold down the Apple key and tap the 'c'.
Click in the message area of a 'new message' window and paste what you've just copied, Apple/v. Just type in the person's address and the Subject line. It's easy and quick.
Laurel
I'm not familiar with Thunderbird but this is what I've always done: drag to highlight the part of the message you want to copy, excluding all those addresses. This can include graphics as well as the text. Then just hold down the Apple key and tap the 'c'.
Click in the message area of a 'new message' window and paste what you've just copied, Apple/v. Just type in the person's address and the Subject line. It's easy and quick.
Laurel
Laurel, Those shortcuts will be handy. (Kimmer) gave me instructions, and after several tries, I was finally successful in getting rid of some of those "bulky" addresses. (I attribute a lot of my ineptness to my advanceing age and being relatively new to computing)
My current project is eliminating the (forward) addresses from my webmail files. Space is limited and fills up fast without diligence.
I've been thinking about copying them, deleting the files, then creating all new files. Will that work or is there a better application for that as well?
Post by: Gregg on July 24, 2006, 07:51:17 AM
QUOTE(Liz @ Jul 24 2006, 07:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been thinking about copying them, deleting the files, then creating all new files. Will that work or is there a better application for that as well?
You mean deleting the addresses?
I'm not sure what webmail files are (pardon my lack of knowledge), but I suspect just deleting addresses from the header of a file will not significantly reduce the size of the file. To really save space, the files should be compressed. Then if you need to look at one, it has to be expanded (that is, un-compressed), then deleted when you're done so as not to take up space again.
I use Aladdin's DropStuff to compress and their Stuffit Expander to "decompress". (er- expand. Sorry for mixing terms!)
Post by: Liz on July 24, 2006, 08:27:39 AM
QUOTE(Gregg @ Jul 24 2006, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You mean deleting the addresses?
I'm not sure what webmail files are (pardon my lack of knowledge), but I suspect just deleting addresses from the header of a file will not significantly reduce the size of the file. To really save space, the files should be compressed. Then if you need to look at one, it has to be expanded (that is, un-compressed), then deleted when you're done so as not to take up space again.
I use Aladdin's DropStuff to compress and their Stuffit Expander to "decompress". (er- expand. Sorry for mixing terms!)
I'm not sure what webmail files are (pardon my lack of knowledge), but I suspect just deleting addresses from the header of a file will not significantly reduce the size of the file. To really save space, the files should be compressed. Then if you need to look at one, it has to be expanded (that is, un-compressed), then deleted when you're done so as not to take up space again.
I use Aladdin's DropStuff to compress and their Stuffit Expander to "decompress". (er- expand. Sorry for mixing terms!)
Hi Gregg,
I did mean deleting the addresses. When I opened a webmail folder (
wrote files before) and deleted the addresses, opened again to see what changed; nothing had changed. The address are all still there.
Sooo, what's next? 
We'll "talk about" compressing and expanding another day.
Post by: jepinto on July 24, 2006, 10:41:11 AM
If you want to save the items you've sent, you can open each message and do a Save As... and download the message to your computer. And then delete the messages from your webmail folders.
Is there a reason you are using the Bellsouth webmail interface instead of using Mail to download your email? (I think I remember you are on Bellsouth..)
Post by: Liz on July 24, 2006, 02:14:47 PM
QUOTE(jepinto @ Jul 24 2006, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Liz: Are you saving the sent items to your web space? In the sent mail folder?
If you want to save the items you've sent, you can open each message and do a Save As... and download the message to your computer. And then delete the messages from your webmail folders.
Is there a reason you are using the Bellsouth webmail interface instead of using Mail to download your email? (I think I remember you are on Bellsouth..)
If you want to save the items you've sent, you can open each message and do a Save As... and download the message to your computer. And then delete the messages from your webmail folders.
Is there a reason you are using the Bellsouth webmail interface instead of using Mail to download your email? (I think I remember you are on Bellsouth..)
What I'm talking about is forwards. I have an aunt who sends these deliteful forwards that may have been to three or four other groups of people before she forwards on to her group. They have to be extremely desirable for me to keep. Then, there's the stuff from everybody else.
I have learned to delete the address from those I forward. What I'm trying to do now is to delete them from the forwards I already have in folders, in order to free-up webmail space.
My daughter mailed a picture of her new house, but I got a message stating that I didn't have enough space to receive it; to delete anything I don't want to save in order to receive it. No! I don't save anything anywhere but in folders.
If you are talking about Apple mail (I guess that is what it's called); it hasn't worked since I've had the computer. If it was disabled by a previous user or I need some expert assistant
to activate it, I'm not sure. You are correct that I use Bell South. BS is my internet provider.
Post by: kbeartx on July 24, 2006, 03:19:23 PM
QUOTE(Liz @ Jul 24 2006, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What I'm trying to do now is to delete them from the forwards I already have in folders, in order to free-up webmail space.
I don't know that that can be done.
What you're wanting to do is edit your saved mail msgs and then re-save them, yes?
I depends on the way the webmail 'app' that BS uses was written [whether it was designed w/ this feature or not].
I suspect not.
Since you use webmail, your saved msgs are all on the server, and not on your computer.
If you want to free-up some space, you're gonna hafta save the mail as text files on your Mac and then delete the saved msgs on the server.
You might be able to do this via drag-and-drop [try that first, it'll be less work], or by copying-and-pasting the parts of the msgs you wanna save into a word processor file [one or many].
- KB
Post by: Liz on July 24, 2006, 04:18:24 PM
QUOTE(kbeartx @ Jul 24 2006, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know that that can be done.
What you're wanting to do is edit your saved mail msgs and then re-save them, yes?
I depends on the way the webmail 'app' that BS uses was written [whether it was designed w/ this feature or not].
I suspect not.
Since you use webmail, your saved msgs are all on the server, and not on your computer.
If you want to free-up some space, you're gonna hafta save the mail as text files on your Mac and then delete the saved msgs on the server.
You might be able to do this via drag-and-drop [try that first, it'll be less work], or by copying-and-pasting the parts of the msgs you wanna save into a word processor file [one or many].
<-added the closing "quote" tag.What you're wanting to do is edit your saved mail msgs and then re-save them, yes?
I depends on the way the webmail 'app' that BS uses was written [whether it was designed w/ this feature or not].
I suspect not.
Since you use webmail, your saved msgs are all on the server, and not on your computer.
If you want to free-up some space, you're gonna hafta save the mail as text files on your Mac and then delete the saved msgs on the server.
You might be able to do this via drag-and-drop [try that first, it'll be less work], or by copying-and-pasting the parts of the msgs you wanna save into a word processor file [one or many].
It appears I began writting above the end or your message. Noticed it when previewing my reply.
I also have ThunderBird. That is what I use now, almost exclusively; don't have to have an active browser with TB. IE gets Bell South mail which means starting IE up to delete the messages.
Post by: kbeartx on July 24, 2006, 05:03:03 PM
some email systems that place various limits on accounts, restrict the number of msgs that can be stored, so your plan to reduce the size of many of your saved msgs will not diminish at all the number of msgs.
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I also have ThunderBird. That is what I use now, almost exclusively;
This makes me think that maybe we're all making too much of this; you probably can have Thunderbird download all your saved msgs and delete them from the server, thus freeing up space in your webmail account.
Not being a Thunderbird user, I'll leave it to others who are, to give you specific instructions for this [in all other email programs I've used, it's accomplished via a setting in the prefs].
- KB
Post by: kelly on July 24, 2006, 07:32:08 PM
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106683
Post by: RHPConsult on July 24, 2006, 07:45:24 PM
I use SeaMonkey, which I surmise is not too different from its brother/sister, Thunderbird
First, I'd follow KBear's advice and get those messages off the server and onto your computer where you can easily give them the "treatment(s)" they deserve
Then clean out your webmail "space". If BS is anything like SBC/ATT there are options for deleting all or some with relative ease.
As to sending people received mail without displaying the Manhattan Phone Book as prior addressees, simply follow the advice, discussed earlier.
- Chose REPLY not FORWARD
- Then, edit the addresses out – without trashing the message
- Also edit out the "grace notes," such as MSN's dubious touting of its "services" – usually appended to the end of messages
- Finally, be sure to delete your sender, and replace with the names you wish to address
Trying to encourage some of my more dense/clueless correspondents to delete the address + address + addresz trash that they regularly send along, I've composed a simple little pdf of easy instructions, on the chance they simply don't understand how vexing it is for many of us to receive such a message and how easy/polite it is to clean it up. That has been helpful for many casual technopeasants, IMHO.
Post by: Gregg on July 25, 2006, 07:42:16 AM
Find out how to download them from your e-mail program or browser to your hard drive, and then delete the old copies online. This will free up the available space for more e-mail messages. If you don't find a way to download them, use copy and paste to make copies into a word processing file and save that on your computer.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 25, 2006, 09:01:00 AM
Leaving these message on the Bell South area will certainly fill up your space ( which you can always buy extra! ). But unless your message contains supper critical, governmental secrets, there is no need to keep them on that expensive space. Further, If you don't keep that space as empty as possible, you may not even be getting all the message being sent to you. You are lucky that BS tells you that your mail box is too full and have not received all the incoming mail. Usually all that happens is that the sender gets a message saying your mail box is "over quota" and his message was not delivered. That's very frustrating to the sender, believe me.
You really should be using Mail/Thunderbird/Eudora/etc. to download and read your email. All these programs can be set to delete the messages form your SB space after they are downloaded to your computer. That way, you'll never have to worry about running out of space there. And the program will be much more usable for creating/editing messages than any web based service.
I suspect that the failure of MAil is simply because you have not changed the settings in it. You mentioned that this is a "used" computer; it probably has had the email info deleted from the settings in Mail. All you need to do is look at the prefs and find the places where you will enter the same info that BS wants you to use. Once that is done, you can use Mail or any other email program to access your mail. I'll let any Mail user describe where those prefs are and help you gather the required info ( probably "SMTP server name", your USer name, and your password; all of which you are already using, one way or another. )
Post by: jepinto on July 25, 2006, 11:08:30 AM
Now she needs help figuring out why Jag won't let her set up a new user..... think Repairing Permissions might help? How about getting rid of the Deleted Users folder in ~/Users?
Post by: kimmer on July 25, 2006, 11:29:05 AM
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But why would TB put system setting under View
Ummm ... it's not.
It's under EDIT/PROPERTIES or
By clicking on the acct name over on the left hand side, you'll be taken to this window:
Where it says "View settings for this account".
I'm glad Liz has this straightened out.