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Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: gunug on September 04, 2006, 10:44:34 AM
I first heard this on NPR but didn't get enough details:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770

In a slight way I am indeed "concerned" about my mom-in-law and the internet and my aunt and uncle, both in their 70's, are both somewhat gullible in believing and passing on anything that shows up in their email.  But, Krissel knows, I'm a little uncertain in my internet smarts; especially late at night!  smile.gif

What do you think?
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: kcourt on September 04, 2006, 11:22:41 AM
Well, I am well into my 70's and don't have a problem personally.  I am sceptical of anything that sounds like a great deal.  "If it seems too good to be true, watch out".

I learned a lot of great things from my dad, such as check out everything until you know all the details, and don't ever rush into any deal. I never buy anything over the phone or at my front door.  The only things I buy on the internet are those that I initiate. Even though I am in my sunset years, my dad's good advice still sticks with me.

I do admit that many older folks are trusting of everyone, and some have dementia, which I think is the major problem for many seniors who are taken by various scams.

Just my .02.

Kathy flower-smilie.gif
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: Gregg on September 04, 2006, 11:45:30 AM
I guess it's the same problem presented by door-to-door hucksters and telelmarketers. The internet might make it eaiser to get "a foot in the door" and thus be more dangerous, I suppose.

I'm wondering if I can teach my 85 year old Dad to use e-mail. Probably not - he never had to type anything in his life.
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: kimmer on September 04, 2006, 12:22:46 PM
It is "ageism" and it's ... annoying! Personally, I'd shoot off a letter to that company and I'd wage a campaign against them. I've turned several folks from shopping at a certain store over the past several years, so you can have an impact.

I can understand wanting to protect our seniors, but isn't that the responsibility of their family? Not corperate companies. Besides, you can go to loads of public libraries, internet cafes, etc and use the internet on someone else's computer.

Where does it end? Should we ID everyone who shops and if they are buying what appears to be wasteful junk, refuse to sell to them because they are seniors and might be wasting their food money?

The world is a weird place.
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: Jack W on September 04, 2006, 07:23:04 PM
Hey,

I'm over 70 and use the internet frequently.


nanananana!!!!!
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: krissel on September 05, 2006, 03:25:33 AM
I assume they were just a bit over zealous in their attempt to protect the elderly. If it was here in the US they would be both vilified for 'ageism' and acknowledged for taking a step to avoid lawsuits.

Gregg, you might try showing your Dad the basics. He may find it something to keep his mind occupied. My Dad first used the computer at about 83. He's now 88 and gets his invoices and orders via email on his eMac for the business he is still running. He enjoys looking up stuff on the net and finds a lot of interesting reading.

We're in the process of researching a good scanner that can handle 4x4 slides so he can make digital copies of the many slides he took decades ago.
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Gunug, looks like my 'powers' are working. wink.gif

http://today.reuters.com/news/articleinves...mp;alias=/ht/nw
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: MamaMoose on September 05, 2006, 04:33:32 AM
I am 73 and use the internet for a mryiad of things!

MamaMoose
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: Gregg on September 05, 2006, 07:31:52 AM
QUOTE(krissel @ Sep 5 2006, 03:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gregg, you might try showing your Dad the basics. He may find it something to keep his mind occupied. My Dad first used the computer at about 83.


My next opportunity for that will probably be in October. My sister probably won't have time for that with everything else she is doing, which might include closing Mom's NetZero account. But, if not, I'll see if he wants to learn. My bigger reservation is about using the keyboard, not the mouse.
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: gunug on September 05, 2006, 08:16:11 AM
I seemed to have stirred things a little. smile.gif

I wouldn't dream of restricting someone's access to the internet because of their age only.  My wife had a 90+ year old "Raging Cajun" uncle who would cruise around Wichita, Kansas at a high rate of speed in a 1990's model T-Bird.  He would get in, put it into drive, and go, without regard to speed and traffic lights.  His son finally clipped his wings and probably if he'd been a person who would have wanted to cruise the net he might have wanted to monitor that a little a guess.  Maybe someday by son's might clip my wings; not soon I hope!   smile.gif

Jack W: I'm glad you told us who that was in your avatar picture; I knew I recognized her but couldn't place the face!
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 05, 2006, 01:44:29 PM
IMHO, "protecting the elderly" is PR talk for "we can cut costs by not having to support these people." I'm always suspicious of any company that decides they don't need a certain group of "customers". I usually find an alternative 'supplier' for whatever it is they 'sell'.
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: themagpie on September 05, 2006, 06:00:05 PM
I agree with ABD.  I'm almost 72 and I have no problems with the internet.

Margie
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: gunug on September 05, 2006, 06:29:02 PM
Krissel - You must tell me what techniques you used to bring about the resolution of the Chinese problems!   smile.gif

I worked with a teacher who is in her 70's today and outside of speaking to me in Italian (which is the language she thought I was speaking, I've got to do something about my speaking of English  smile.gif  ) she was very sharp and doing well at keeping up with the 3rd graders she was working with.  They had a last minute loss of a teacher they'd hired and this veteran has agreed to step in!
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: RHPConsult on September 05, 2006, 06:42:48 PM
QUOTE
Are you too old for the internet, Some people think people over 70 are!


I BEG your pardon!   harhar.gif
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: Gregg on September 05, 2006, 09:21:39 PM
Speak up there, Dick. I can barely hear you. wink2.gif
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: gunug on September 07, 2006, 09:29:38 PM
Isn't speaking too loudly one of the warning signs that you're too old for the internet?   smile.gif
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: RHPConsult on September 08, 2006, 01:33:17 AM
The Olde Goat thought about exclaiming . . .

Baaaaah Humbug!

But, then he thought twice and better of it!

 doh.gif
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: Gregg on September 08, 2006, 07:44:40 AM
QUOTE(gunug @ Sep 7 2006, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't speaking too loudly one of the warning signs that you're to old for the internet?   smile.gif


That would be the one you are speaking to!
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: kcourt on September 08, 2006, 09:38:41 AM
Now I know why I love these boards so much - a lot of "young senior citizens" my age hang out here.

Frankly, I don 't think of the 70's as "old age" anymore - maybe I will feel old when I am in my 90's, but not yet!

By the way, The picture I use is of my mom when she was 21!

Kathy flower-smilie.gif
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: goodear on September 08, 2006, 11:07:36 AM
I'm not yet in my 70s (I'm 57) but already am getting dementia trying to fix internet connection problems on my own. Younger people if faced with similar problems  would also become demented but they would be less mature to deal with it. On the other hand the younger ones are less susceptible to heart problems stemming from dementia.
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: kimmer on September 08, 2006, 11:57:54 AM
Personally I wish all of you would write bigger and save the stress on my poor aged eyes. biggrin.gif

goodear, 57 is a great age. I just rolled into it and am having a blast. Let's hope I say that when I'm 58. For some reason ... that Beatle's tune is now running through my head. hahaha
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: sandbox on September 08, 2006, 12:38:13 PM
The company may claim that they’re new policy was made to protect seniors but WE know better and so do folks over seventy. They are responding to statistics that show seniors require more service or have a higher rate of return than that of younger customers. There will be a growing trend to deal with rising age and dementia as time goes on. The issue is heating up hear in Florida (Heaven’s Waiting Room as they say) as more and more accidents involve seniors, or as they become more susceptible to scams.

What is going to be the trend is that annual testing and certification for a variety of incapacities will begin to split the community and their ability to mount a force to defend them selves. Medication securitization as it relates to cause and effect will even supercede Medical Privacy laws. Using a verifiable medical certificate (not just an eye test) will be the only way to get or renew a driver’s license or enter into a binding contract. As seniors spend more time with doctors, those records may come back to bite them in the rearend.

Some folks now are using alternative medicine to keep themselves away from prying eyes, where no medical records need be kept or insurance need apply.

It’s been great to have someone else pay for medical coverage through insurance, but insurance companies have the biggest teeth of all. Insurance companies will be the final Arbitrator of independence for an ever-aging population who find themselves depending on it more and more as time goes on. A senior may in the future need to buy an insurance policy to purchase items that companies may find to costly to sell to them, I’ve heard that argument made already and it may come to fruition in time.  coolio.gif
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: krissel on September 08, 2006, 10:13:26 PM
I'm actually looking forward to my next birthday as I will 'hit' the big 60. My local pool will be cheaper to join, some area stores give discounts and I'll only have two more years til I can apply for early social security.

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Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: kimmer on September 08, 2006, 10:43:23 PM
I've been getting discounts tons of place since I hit 55. Sneakers, being the eldest, tongue.gif  *could* get discounts almost everywhere, but he's too _________ (pick your own word) to ask for the discount. Not me. I ask.

krissel, enjoy that next birthday. wink.gif
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: RHPConsult on September 08, 2006, 11:06:05 PM
QUOTE
I'm actually looking forward to my next birthday as I will 'hit' the big 60. My local pool will be cheaper to join, some area stores give discounts and I'll only have two more years til I can apply for early social security
 And . . . you won't have to take out a 2d mortgage in order to finance going to the movies! clap.gif
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: krissel on September 09, 2006, 02:19:04 AM
QUOTE(RHPConsult @ Sep 9 2006, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And . . . you won't have to take out a 2d mortgage in order to finance going to the movies! clap.gif



Heh, heh.

Not me. The last time I paid for a movie ticket was to see "Ghostbusters" (1984).

 rolleyes.gif
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: RHPConsult on September 09, 2006, 01:13:39 PM
QUOTE
The last time I paid for a movie ticket was to see "Ghostbusters" (1984).
 salute.gif  But, but . . . isn't that one of the privileges of being a girl person? Or is that concept passé?

huh.gif




PS: I don't even remember the last time I "went to the movies". Except that I do recall it was hardly like the olden days (in rural Illinois) when the theater was the only air-conditioned building for miles around, when the "features" changed every Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday, and the  admission = 10¢. Oh boy!
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: krissel on September 09, 2006, 01:42:56 PM
QUOTE(RHPConsult @ Sep 9 2006, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
salute.gif  But, but . . . isn't that one of the privileges of being a girl person? Or is that concept passé?



Well, either we go Dutch or forgo the theater altogether and rent a video. Actually since they started breaking up the large theaters into mini screens it just isn't the same experience any more. Add the noisy patrons and dirty environment...ugh.

Besides, I used to be so tired by evening that as soon as the house lights went down, my eyelids did also.

 sleep1.gif
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: underdog on September 09, 2006, 01:55:57 PM
Are we too old???? I certainly hope not. Im 75, 76 in october,,I certainly dont want to give up my MAC because of age..
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 09, 2006, 04:20:18 PM
QUOTE
The last time I paid for a movie ticket was to see "Ghostbusters" (1984)
Please remember we have young people reading these posts! And you know the TS stance on piracy! harhar.gif

I always ask for a discount just about anywhere. Case in point: A few years ago, Judy and I visited a local exhibit of WWII artifacts. I casually asked if they took a Sam's card when asked how I wanted to pay the admission fee. "Sure, matter of fact, we'll give you a 50% discount, since they are one of the sponsors!" Never look a gift horse in the mouth. And don't get too close to the other end, either! flower-smilie.gif
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: gunug on September 09, 2006, 05:26:43 PM
The last movies I went to at the theatre were the Lord of the Rings Trilogy;  I went to a theatre with nice comfortable seating and still managed to get very stiff and sore.
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: LR827 on September 11, 2006, 03:10:47 PM
QUOTE(RHPConsult @ Sep 8 2006, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And . . . you won't have to take out a 2d mortgage in order to finance going to the movies!



Ah... No such luck, my dear.  By then a "senior discounted ticket" will cost a fortune, too!

By the way, talking about movies & seniors -- My hubby and I went to see "Hollywoodland" at the theatre.  (Okay, I dragged him there -- I am such a Superman fan!)  The funny thing was, there was NOBODY UNDER MIDDLE AGE in the audience!!  Honestly, we couldn't identify a single couple that looked younger than 50's or so!!

I guess it really appealed to those of us who remember racing home to see "The Adventures of Superman" on television in the '50's.  

Look! Up in the sky!...
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: gunug on September 11, 2006, 03:50:31 PM
No one younger than that would have a clue about who it was that starred in the B&W Superman of the 1950's/60's!  I really only remember from the rerun episodes they used to play after school!  



George Reeves was not this buff!

Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: D76 on September 11, 2006, 07:27:50 PM
QUOTE(gunug @ Sep 11 2006, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
George Reeves was not this buff!
I could never figure out how Supe could build muscles when he could lift a locomotive (tender with coal and water, included) with his little finger. What did he do? Pump planets?
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: Gregg on September 11, 2006, 08:32:22 PM
Push ups would do it. He had to be built like a tank to stop one. wink.gif
Title: Are you too old for the internet
Post by: LR827 on September 11, 2006, 10:16:01 PM
I just ordered the first 2 seasons of the 1950's "Adventures of Superman" on my online rental acct. Please, if anyone has NOT seen these originals, please rent them, before you see Hollywoodland!  

Half the audience was crying, but you wouldn't understand why if you had not seen the originals.  No way to explain it -- Just rent these DVD's if you can first!