Post by: Reiddm on September 07, 2006, 07:51:57 AM
Thank you!!!
Post by: jcarter on September 07, 2006, 08:19:43 AM
I restarted a couple of times, and had to use the power button, then ran Onyx, then it slowly slowly came back to normal. So, even tho I had the problem just once, Ive not figured out why.
And since my G5 is in the shop, I havent turned this machine off, fearing it might happen again, and I would be Mac-less. We are going off on vacation again tomorrow, will turn this off and unplug it, and when we get back, I will see if this problem re-appears.
Jane
Post by: daryl66 on September 07, 2006, 11:28:49 AM
Daryl
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 08, 2006, 09:32:00 AM
How long since a battery conditioning reset?
Post by: daryl66 on September 08, 2006, 11:19:15 AM
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How long since a battery conditioning reset?
ABD:
Some enlightment here please.
There was a thread here earlier that indicated the current family of batteries have no "memory" and cannot be "reconditioned" "Parker" led me to an application called "cocanutBattery" that provides info as to the condition of your battery, charge state and compares it to its original condition.
What are you refereing to "battery conditioning reset"?
I used to have a 1400 laptop and there was a "reconditioning" application that worked on that family of battery.
Daryl
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 08, 2006, 02:08:52 PM
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For proper maintenance of a lithium-based battery, it’s important to keep the electrons in it moving occasionally. Apple does not recommend leaving your portable plugged in all the time. An ideal use would be a commuter who uses her MacBook Pro on the train, then plugs it in at the office to charge. This keeps the battery juices flowing. If on the other hand, you use a desktop computer at work, and save a notebook for infrequent travel, Apple recommends charging and discharging its battery at least once per month. Need a reminder? Add an event to your desktop’s iCal.
also...<Exercise your battery>.
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Lithium-ion batteries need to be used for maximum performance. If you don’t use your device often, be sure to complete a charge cycle at least once per month.
They even offer a couple of scropts to help you remember to fresh you battery's 'memory'! <Another Apple battery related page>
The newest batteries have less 'memory' problems than older NiCad batteries, but that doesn't mean they should/could be installed and forgotten. They will 'wear' out faster if not kept in good order. YMMV.
Post by: daryl66 on September 08, 2006, 04:09:54 PM
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YMMV.
YMMV.
ABD: I do not recall what exactly was transpiring when I had my issue, but the PMU sounds like a possible culprit. It has never reoccured. I use the laptop as (MY) computer, attached to a 19 inch lcd. She uses the IMAC. It gets to go traveling half a dozen times or so a year when "she" makes presentations and when we travel for fun. Probably has not discharged to 50 percent more than 3 or 4 times.
I was aware of the excercising procedure and it just makes sense. Now what does YMMV mean? Try as I may cannot come up with anything that makes sense.
Daryl
(http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?[/url)
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 08, 2006, 04:30:04 PM
Maybe the batteries need exercising like the rest of us? I get lots just scratching my head for answers!
Post by: Reiddm on September 08, 2006, 09:37:32 PM
Post by: krissel on September 09, 2006, 01:00:04 AM
Can you use the old three fingered restart on that machine? Command, control +Power.
I've had that symptom on my 9600 (10.3.9) on occasion but I almost always can restart using the above key commands. Every once in a blue moon I need to shut down. I suspect in those cases that the computer has difficulty logging off certain connections, in particular network access or some background application won't quit therefore locking up everything else.
Have you had a look at your logs to see if you can see what is happening during these episodes?
You might also try creating a new account and seeing if it also gives you trouble on restart.
Post by: Reiddm on September 09, 2006, 09:17:23 PM
Now if the dock is working it restarts fine?
Have not checked the logs yet, and it does this on either account, even the one I named test, and of course this happens usually at work, it is then I get a frustrated wife phone call, thanks for your help, and sorry it takes me time to get back as I work for the local electric company and they keep us going.
Post by: krissel on September 10, 2006, 03:25:10 AM
You can use the power key obviously so next thing to try is see if when that happens you can do a power manager reset.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449
Post by: Reiddm on September 10, 2006, 07:58:59 AM
Funny thing is I bought the G4 to replace my Pismo when I dumped a full cup of coffee (complete with cream and sugar) on the key board (this was very upsetting), so while I was waiting for the new laptop I disassembled the Pismo washed all the parts by spraying window cleaner (it took three cans) then rinsed with distilled water, used a blow dryer, let it set disassembled for 3 days (was called to work and 32’d out) when I woke up I reassembled it plugged in the powerbrick waited for smoke, when I got no smoke I pressed the power button and was quite surprised when I heard the bong at start up, it came back to life, the only thing that went south was the battery, yes God was on my side for that mistake but I figure he has his way for teaching us, and yes I learned I now have the lower body covered with a keyboard cover, because I primarily use a external keyboard and mouse, keeping the cover on does not hamper me, I love this keyboard and mouse it is the Logitech S530, and hold on tightly to my coffee cup, VERY TIGHT!
Again thank you all for your help!