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Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: jcarter on November 02, 2006, 06:59:38 AM
Every once in a while, these stupid intrusive pop up ads appear out of nowhere.
When I hit DENY the do not go away.
As you can see, they have even infiltrated into you-tubes site.

I dont want them stored on my computer, and why would they want to do so?
Could these contain a virus or something that could do harm?

Jane
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: kbeartx on November 02, 2006, 10:50:47 AM
> Could these contain a virus or something that could do harm?

Jane,

Currently there are NO VIRUSES that affect OS-X, so no worries!
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: jcarter on November 02, 2006, 11:03:13 AM
I didn't think so either, but what the heck IS this "thing"?
Jane
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: jepinto on November 02, 2006, 11:14:45 AM
It's a security measure, strangely enough.

It is alerting you that the movie uses Flash and some of the content wants to be transfered to your hard drive while it loads.  Kinda like a Cache.
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: jcarter on November 02, 2006, 11:41:47 AM
I played the same movie on my other Mac using Foxfire and the "thing" was not there.
But if its like a Cache, then it should be harmless.  But would like to be able to "Deny", to make it go away.
I did put a question on the Adobe Flash forum to see if anyone knew what the purpose was.  If I get something conclusive, I will post it here.
I think your explanation is it, a Cache, perhaps to make the movie play smoother.
Thanks,
Jane
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: jcarter on November 02, 2006, 06:48:13 PM
Nobody at the Adobe Flash forum has a clue either, so when you see this thing on your screen, just dump that page and go to different browser, and view whatever you were looking at, and you wont see it.
Ive used Firefox and never seen it there.
Odd that Adobe Flash people have are not familiar with this, nor have seen it?
Hey, Tacit, you are the expert on this web stuff, when you return home, please let us know if you think this is anything important.  Hopefully it is not.
Jane
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: MamaMoose on November 02, 2006, 07:27:13 PM
Jane,

I do noit know what is your preferred browser but FireFox has  anti-pop up! In FF 2.0. Go to Preferences>Content and check the box that says "Block Pop Up Windows". Voila! I think that was also available in FF 1.5. That may be why you don't get poip ups when you are in FF.

MamaMoose
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: jcarter on November 02, 2006, 07:52:34 PM
I generally use Safari, but have disabled pop ups in it too, as well as Firefox.  
So this 'thing' is something else, will be interesting to really see what it is!

Perhaps its a bacteria, not a virus, and I might be able to wash my Mac with kitchen soap, how about some platensimycin, eh?  
It might be something that got left here by a Halloween dragon that ooooozed from monster sized pumpkin innards!
Jane
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: Parker on November 02, 2006, 08:24:23 PM
coincidentally,
i was just looking for a script to embed in my webpage
to bypass any popup blocker
and pop up anyway

(it's a school webpage... so i think this type of popup is an exception to the rule of blocked popups)
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: whisper on November 02, 2006, 08:37:50 PM
I think you will find the answers here. Hope this helps!
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 02, 2006, 08:40:31 PM
It will get by a "pop up blocker" because it is not a "pop up". It's simply an alert by the Flash player/plug in. If you block Flash content you'll probably never see it again. FF has extensions to provide that capability. Works great ( at least in pre-2.0 ), speeds up downloads, prevents 'flash trash' from cluttering up the screen. smile.gif
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: Parker on November 03, 2006, 10:40:16 AM
wallbash.gif  doh.gif  thanx.gif
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: D76 on November 03, 2006, 05:48:59 AM
QUOTE(gailwin @ Nov 2 2006, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
coincidentally,
i was just looking for a script to embed in my webpage
to bypass any popup blocker
and pop up anyway
jawdrop.gif
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: jcarter on November 03, 2006, 07:48:00 AM
Hi Everybody,
Thanks, I wont worry about it then.
Jane
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: pendragon on November 03, 2006, 08:12:09 AM
Jane,

FWIW:

When using Safari (most always), I use PithHelmet to block image, javascript, Flash ads, and GIF animations. Shareware, US$ 10.00.

I think it's a great app (well, technically it's just a plugin) and have never had a problem with it. In general, I find it does a much better job at doing its thang than do the FireFox counterparts. coolio.gif
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: jcarter on November 03, 2006, 08:36:23 AM
Thanks, I will check out PithHelmet.  
But perhaps just by shutting the page off when the 'thing' appears and opening it with Firefox, or just opening it on my other(Tiger) Mac, seems to work.  Not seen it again.
Jane
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: Mayo on November 03, 2006, 04:18:32 PM
There are times when Flash content on a Web site is really cool and/or useful, so I leave it enabled and just ignore the occasional ad (or click through it, if the option exists.)
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: jcarter on November 03, 2006, 04:47:24 PM
I do leave Flash enabled, and its wonderful, as you say, but I didn't know what the 'thing' was all about.
Now I know, thanx to you all, and I will use Flash(classmates have Flash sites to show off their work), and not worry about this.
Ive never seen it on my G5 however.
So I may switch my classwork over to the G5. Ive just been using it for my pictures and Photoshop.  But you know how these Macs are, they will do anything and everything.
Jane
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: Dreambird on November 03, 2006, 07:07:22 PM
Have a look through this site:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/document..._manager02.html

I've set it up not to allow any storage on my disk but to allow it to ask so I occasionally get those popups... I just hit deny a couple of times and it goes away. You can set it to "never ask again" too which should get rid of them... I'm just waiting to see it some site I use needs storage to work properly. So far, not so I think I'll be doing that myself. You can set it to allow certain sites if needed.
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: jcarter on November 03, 2006, 07:35:55 PM
Hi Dreambird, Youve explained it well, and that link is the better of all.
Just wondered why on my G4 that "Deny" didnt work.  Nor "Never ask again"
On G5, no problem.  So I just kill the page on G4, and view it on the G5 Mac.
Thank you,
Jane
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: Dreambird on November 03, 2006, 08:08:01 PM
huh.gif
What version of Flash are you using? Maybe the newest version works better:

version 9

I'm still on v8 myself... I'll try setting it to "never ask again" and see what happens...
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: jepinto on November 03, 2006, 08:12:10 PM
QUOTE
What are local shared objects & third-party local shared objects?

A local shared object, sometimes referred to as a "Flash cookie," is a small data file that can be created on your computer by the websites that you visit. Shared objects are most often used to enhance your web-browsing experience, for example, by allowing you to personalize the look and feel of a website that you frequently visit. Shared objects, by themselves, can't do anything to or with the data on your computer. More important, shared objects can never access or remember your e-mail address or other personal information─unless you willingly provide such information.

A third-party local shared object, sometimes referred to as a "third-party Flash cookie," is a shared object created by third-party content, or content that is not actually located on the site you are currently viewing. Third-party local shared objects may be important for privacy discussions because they can be used to track your preferences or your website usage across different websites that you visit.
Disabling local shared objects from third-party content

The Settings Manager lets you manage many settings related to your Flash Player, including the option to allow or disallow third-party shared objects on your computer. Follow the steps below to disallow local shared objects from third-party content.

   1. Go to the Global Storage Settings panel of the Settings Manager (Figure 1.) Click the tabs at the top of the Settings Manager to select the second panel if you do not see the Global Storage Settings.

   2. Deselect the checkbox labeled Allow Third-Party Flash Content to Store Information On Your Computer. (Figure 1)
   3. Close the Settings Manager. Flash Player remembers the new setting, and you can continue viewing websites. With the third-party storage setting disabled, Flash Player checks if the content you are viewing is from a third-party and prevents it from creating local shared objects.

Why is the checkbox unavailable on my browser?

    * You may not be using the latest Flash Player version. The third-party storage setting was introduced in Flash Player 8 and is not available in earlier versions of the Player. Click here to get Flash Player 8 now to take advantage of the latest security and privacy features.
    * You may be using an older web browser. Flash Player depends on the web browser to tell it where the content is coming from. Flash Player uses this information to determine if the content is coming from a third party. Because this information is not available, Flash Player cannot disable third-party shared objects. We recommend you use the latest version of your browser that is available.
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: Dreambird on November 03, 2006, 08:25:48 PM
Jane... it works fine on my FF2.0 with Flash 8. I went through all the tabs and set every "never ask again" or "deny" and then tried the video at google because that one always asked for permission and took a couple of clicks to get rid of... now the videos just play. No more popup.

Also read what Jennie has outlined above... it should work... smile.gif
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: D76 on November 03, 2006, 09:06:38 PM
You can kill the #Shared Objects folder along with any cookies it contains with this AppleScript. (The folder reappears each time Flash starts.) Paste this into a new AppleScript blank, change "Your Name" to the name of your own folder in the User's Folder, go up to Save As, then in the AppleScript window that appears give it a name and save it as an application.

tell application "finder"
if folder "#SharedObjects" of folder "Flash Player" of folder "Macromedia" of folder "Preferences" of folder "Library" of folder "Your Name" of folder "Users" of startup disk exists then
        delete folder "#SharedObjects" of folder "Flash Player" of folder "Macromedia" of folder "Preferences" of folder "Library" of folder "Your Name" of folder "Users" of startup disk
    end if
    end tell

If you want the trash emptied each time you run it, add "empty trash" — without the quotes —  immediately under "end if."

I have an aversion to cookies, and this is part of an AppleScript that also trashes the cookies.txt file every time I quit a browser.
Title: Intrusive nasty pop up addvertisement
Post by: jcarter on November 04, 2006, 08:35:27 AM
I did "Find" on Flash, and found Flash "System", and found many Flash folders inside there, and saw that most are from my bank, Flickr, dot mac, Comcast, Pandora, youtube, and a couple of shopping sites(but not Amazon).
The little folders have a # in front of the site name.  And when I open the folders they all say "settings.sol".  That's as far as Ive looked.  Some I don't recognize, but I have not trashed any of them.
Looks like Ive v. 7 on this(Panther) Mac and v. 9.0.16.0 on the G5.
I guess I will just leave it alone, as no matter what site I go to, Ive not seen it again.  And wouldn't want to mess it up, as I can shop or view our bank stuff and listen to Pandora without any problem on both Macs.  It was just youtube that this happened with, and just once.
Thanks for all this info, it sure is interesting,
Jane