Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 08, 2007, 12:59:38 PM
I am very pleased to see that they have recognized my vast wisdom and knowledge of etiquette, by upgrading the behavior I mentioned to them!
So, in honor of their super behavior and the new year, I want to express my gratitude to the very adult ( in the good sense! ) of our younger members; especially Parker and another member who I haven't seen around for a while.
Perhaps someone will refresh my memory! 
There may be other young members, and I would include them, if only I knew their names ( screen or otherwise ). My congratulations on your well-mannered and informative postings and the personal activities that seem well suited for any adult! Thanks! 
It takes a real adult to seek to change/improve his behavior! Congrats to the ones who visit TS!
Post by: gunug on January 08, 2007, 02:15:53 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 08, 2007, 02:24:22 PM
Post by: Texas Mac Man on January 08, 2007, 02:56:02 PM
Post by: RNKIII on January 08, 2007, 03:24:00 PM
Can't recall when... but think at one time his sig. said "older than Dirt"... Who ever Dirt is?? 
Bob K. rnkiii
Post by: gunug on January 08, 2007, 03:34:20 PM
Post by: dolphin on January 08, 2007, 03:54:35 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 08, 2007, 04:46:01 PM
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I thought it said "Older Than Dirk"
Were you one of those guys in the boat? One of them said it was pretty windy. The next one said, "No its not. It's Thursday!" The last one said, "Me too, give me another beer!" 
Post by: gunug on January 08, 2007, 06:03:02 PM
Post by: Gregg on January 08, 2007, 09:05:34 PM
Add me to those who've been impressed with the response to some public advice given on these pages.
Post by: kimmer on January 08, 2007, 09:06:48 PM
QUOTE(gunug @ Jan 8 2007, 04:03 PM) [snapback]115465[/snapback]
Where's the bear?
In the woods?
Sorry, I couldn't resist.Being younger than ABD (okay, so it's only by a few years), I say ... THANKS for the kind words, ABD!
I know there's one younger member who isn't here much anymore because I ... uhh ... had a grumpy moment.
I apologized, but sometimes that doesn't make it all better. 
So I'll join ABD in lauding our younger members who tolerate those of us who aren't quite so young. 
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As many of you know, I'm 'grumpy' for a reason: age and experience ( lack of proper drug dosages? ).
As to why I'm sometimes grumpy, you'll have to ask Sneakers.
Post by: kelly on January 08, 2007, 11:08:09 PM
Post by: kbeartx on January 09, 2007, 02:28:02 AM
QUOTE(gunug @ Jan 8 2007, 07:03 PM) [snapback]115465[/snapback]
Where's the bear?
Reminds me of a party I attended, maybe 25 yrs ago, w/ a new friend who hailed from the Boston, MA area.
Standing at a drinks cooler he called to me, "Hey Bay-ah, wanna Bee-ah?"
[just discovered that this story is a lot harder to convey in print than verbally]
Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 09, 2007, 08:08:59 AM
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just discovered that this story is a lot harder to convey in print than verbally
Can we blame that on the Brits, from whom we inherited such a weird set of words! Hey, if you can't find some one else to blame for your problems, you're not trying hard enough! 
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Guitarfreakk89
Could be, I know he was a close friend of Parker's. I hope he's just busy with school and other interests.
Post by: jcarter on January 09, 2007, 08:27:16 AM
His little sister sent it to him.
Jane
Post by: Parker on January 09, 2007, 03:29:18 PM
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Guitarfreakk89
he has not been on for a while
come to think of it, i haven't received any PM's from the admin lately
if anyone has noticed, my sig has taken a change
y'all
Post by: sandbox on January 10, 2007, 11:26:37 AM
QUOTE(Parker @ Jan 9 2007, 04:29 PM) [snapback]115584[/snapback]
he has not been on for a while
come to think of it, i haven't received any PM's from the admin lately
if anyone has noticed, my sig has taken a change
y'all
come to think of it, i haven't received any PM's from the admin lately
if anyone has noticed, my sig has taken a change
y'allParker, I think Jack was quoting someone else.
That which is at rest is easy to grasp.
That which has not yet come about is easy to plan for.
That which is fragile is easily broken.
That which is minute is easily scattered.
Handle things before they arise.
Manage affairs before they are in a mess.
A thick tree grows from a tiny seed.
A tall building arises from a mound of earth.
A journey of a thousand miles starts with one step.
Contriving, you are defeated;
Grasping, you lose.
Lao-tzu
Post by: Parker on January 10, 2007, 03:56:38 PM
http://www.archeryassociation.bc.ca/Athlet...wsletter006.pdf
and Thank You Google
Post by: chriskleeman on January 10, 2007, 10:23:25 PM
What did you say??? I can't hear you... oh well, I'll turn up my guitar even louder... Oh, maybe that's why I can't hear you! 
Seriously, nice quote Sandbox... When I was Parker's age (ok, I am guesstimating...) I was much less focused, much more confused... at least Parker has beliefs he stands by, and that is very impressive. Some of those may and will change over the years, but my daughter is 17, and quite frankly, I find Parker's dedication and very serious attittude about what he is up to very refreshing.
TS is a mosaic, a patchwork quilt of so many different folks, so many different looks at the world, and somehow, 99% of the time, we all work together to solve each other's problems, point our fellow members in the right direction, and offer encouragement to one another. Parker, you're doin' all right!
Now I can go back to being grumpy...
Chris K
Post by: sandbox on January 11, 2007, 12:53:48 AM
Chris the quote was embedded, the result of a winning prize on a radio show in 1964. The prize was a six mouth introductory course in Kenpo, one of Parkers Dojos.
I knew nothing of the world that I was about to be exposed to, it was the only dojo in the city at the time. I was well suited for the art and it’s been a part of my life ever since.
Post by: MamaMoose on January 11, 2007, 01:24:39 AM
Your quote lets me believe Lao-Tse may have understood the laws of cewlestial mechainics before Newton and Kepler and perhaps Einstin's special theory of relativity.* Goes to show there is nothing new under the sun!
MamaMoose
Post by: weldiger on January 12, 2007, 05:04:32 PM
Sandbox - you said
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The prize was a six mouth introductory course in Kenpo,
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Just checking
Post by: sandbox on January 12, 2007, 07:34:13 PM
He is considered to be the father of the Library system, a consultant to Confucius some say. Like many ancient figures, rumor and word of mouth has distorted the accuracy of their lives.Well digger, don’t know what you mean but it sure looks purty.
The course was endless theory… and balance for the first three months, Tai Chi and Pushing Hands which is dance with no contact.
http://www.key-arts.co.uk/archive/01.htm
Studying Loa Tzu and Sun Tzu for reason and tactic, a lot for a kid in a strange world. I was the first juvenile in this dojo, and it was debated whether or not it was acceptable. A far cry from what you see in today’s studios, with kids as young as 5 years old, people using these facilities for their babysitting needs.
I was active for about 12 years on and off, I used it to train in other fields (skiing, climbing, bicycling) The state that I resided in, MA. considered a Black Belt a weapon and you would have to register yourself if you acquired one. If you ever found yourself in a physical confrontation you could be charge with using a weapon.
Some Martial Arts would not have a Black belt for this reason, of course some give them out like candy, so they mean very little in this culture. The discipline and theory is priceless, something one uses far more than the physical aspect of the program, especially at my age.
Post by: sandbox on January 18, 2007, 12:30:49 AM
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That's a good find Parker; I ripped it from the PDF to make it part of the topic. I like the contemporary application to a timeless observation.
Are you an Archer by chance?
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Development Newsletter March 2004 No 006
"The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step." Lao Tzu
One step at a time, one problem at a time. It may seem obvious, but many of us do not proceed in this way. Conscious change often requires two essential components ¬removing unhealthy things and adding things that are healthy. We also need to strengthen ourselves with positive, life-supporting activities and friends in order to make changes stick. Notice that I did not use the word bad, or wrong. It is important to remember when working with athletes that we must re-enforce the positive. There are times when this is not always easy, for the coach, for the parent, for the athlete themselves. Previously I have talked about how long it takes to teach the body a change in a routine or move leading up to a shot. I spoke about it taking weeks and hours of training to ensure that the muscle memory maintains the new or corrected form. There is another component that needs to be mentioned in order to totally understand the process that a person goes through in order to institute a change. The one other thing is self realization. Okay, now what does she mean? I can hear the wheels turning out there. I remember my first realization shock with my shooting. I was about 15 years old, had been shooting for a couple of years already. I was having a bad day score wise, but in general I was happy about my shooting and really did not pay too much attention to my score. I was shooting with a couple of adults and we were joking around when one of them casually asked me “What side of the string do you look down when you are aiming?” Before I even really thought about my answer I replied, “What string?” You laugh now, but it was not funny at the time. This embarrassing moment in my shooting career did however make me think about what I was doing when I was aiming. Quite obviously the answer should have been, “I look down the inside of the string.” But at the time I wasn’t thinking about the string, or come to think of it about my aiming either. This one harmless question opened my mind for me to self realization, it offered me the opportunity to ask myself the hard question about what I was doing. I could have been told what I was doing, but it is quite likely I would have offered some reason why I do it this way and not the other. Or worse yet, I might have even said something like “ I’m not doing that.” Or “No, I don’t do that.” When an athlete comes back at you with one of these kinds of replies you as a coach need to back up and find another route. This means that the personality that you are working with is strong and independent. This is a good thing for the athlete, for the coach this means you need to be ever watchful for the “Golden moments of learning.” A moment of when you are ready the teacher will come, or You can lead a horse to water. By being positive and life supporting you are more likely to be the teacher when they are ready. You will also need to be ready, get a big mirror, use a video camera, still photos, whatever, so that you can allow them to see what you see. You journey will be more pleasant and positive when you are both working on the same problems. Be a positive life-supporting influence in your athlete’s life, and your athletes need to be positive life supporting influences in the lives of the people around you, it just makes the whole process more rewarding.
"The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step." Lao Tzu
One step at a time, one problem at a time. It may seem obvious, but many of us do not proceed in this way. Conscious change often requires two essential components ¬removing unhealthy things and adding things that are healthy. We also need to strengthen ourselves with positive, life-supporting activities and friends in order to make changes stick. Notice that I did not use the word bad, or wrong. It is important to remember when working with athletes that we must re-enforce the positive. There are times when this is not always easy, for the coach, for the parent, for the athlete themselves. Previously I have talked about how long it takes to teach the body a change in a routine or move leading up to a shot. I spoke about it taking weeks and hours of training to ensure that the muscle memory maintains the new or corrected form. There is another component that needs to be mentioned in order to totally understand the process that a person goes through in order to institute a change. The one other thing is self realization. Okay, now what does she mean? I can hear the wheels turning out there. I remember my first realization shock with my shooting. I was about 15 years old, had been shooting for a couple of years already. I was having a bad day score wise, but in general I was happy about my shooting and really did not pay too much attention to my score. I was shooting with a couple of adults and we were joking around when one of them casually asked me “What side of the string do you look down when you are aiming?” Before I even really thought about my answer I replied, “What string?” You laugh now, but it was not funny at the time. This embarrassing moment in my shooting career did however make me think about what I was doing when I was aiming. Quite obviously the answer should have been, “I look down the inside of the string.” But at the time I wasn’t thinking about the string, or come to think of it about my aiming either. This one harmless question opened my mind for me to self realization, it offered me the opportunity to ask myself the hard question about what I was doing. I could have been told what I was doing, but it is quite likely I would have offered some reason why I do it this way and not the other. Or worse yet, I might have even said something like “ I’m not doing that.” Or “No, I don’t do that.” When an athlete comes back at you with one of these kinds of replies you as a coach need to back up and find another route. This means that the personality that you are working with is strong and independent. This is a good thing for the athlete, for the coach this means you need to be ever watchful for the “Golden moments of learning.” A moment of when you are ready the teacher will come, or You can lead a horse to water. By being positive and life supporting you are more likely to be the teacher when they are ready. You will also need to be ready, get a big mirror, use a video camera, still photos, whatever, so that you can allow them to see what you see. You journey will be more pleasant and positive when you are both working on the same problems. Be a positive life-supporting influence in your athlete’s life, and your athletes need to be positive life supporting influences in the lives of the people around you, it just makes the whole process more rewarding.
Post by: krissel on January 18, 2007, 07:02:36 AM
However clumsy we may sometimes be at expressing our appreciation, I hope our younger members understand that we truly enjoy their interest and the added knowledge they bring to TS.
To all I say
Post by: Mrious_be on January 18, 2007, 02:28:52 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Jan 8 2007, 08:59 PM) [snapback]115428[/snapback]
As many of you know, I'm 'grumpy' for a reason: age and experience ( lack of proper drug dosages? ). Anyway, I've made known my displeasure at the comments and attitude of some of our younger members in months past.
I am very pleased to see that they have recognized my vast wisdom and knowledge of etiquette, by upgrading the behavior I mentioned to them!
I am very pleased to see that they have recognized my vast wisdom and knowledge of etiquette, by upgrading the behavior I mentioned to them!
Hey... i'm grumpy already although i'm in my mid 30's.
So I can only be blessed if I get your knowledge when growing older.
Post by: Gregg on January 19, 2007, 07:30:59 AM
Bah! Humbug!!!
Post by: Mrious_be on January 19, 2007, 04:07:44 PM
He's actualy pretty cute... you could wonder what he's saying and doing there
Also, it seems some nice smileys have joined our rangs (i probably missed that one).
Nice
Post by: Gregg on January 20, 2007, 06:18:18 PM
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(i probably missed that one).
Not by much. You were looking for "ranks".