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Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: pendragon on March 28, 2007, 06:50:32 AM
Comparison Matrix

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I have yet to test NeoOffice. But perhaps others, who are experienced with this Open Source suite, will care to comment...
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: Gregg on March 28, 2007, 07:41:14 AM
Wish I knew how to do a word search on that matrix page. I scanned it quickly looking for only one thing:
Converts AppleWorks 6 documents (.cwk and, um, whatever the spreadsheet suffix is - I forget)
Didn't find it.
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: Parker on March 28, 2007, 09:15:44 AM
Microsoft Office for Mac will convert an AppleWorks document for you
and Appleworks will do the same for most Microsoft Word documents.

I have had very little to no experience s with NeoOffice, although i did read that it is similar to OpenOffice, so if you're looking to compare the two, you may want to bypass this reply... anyway here is my two cents:

I love Microsoft Office for mac. In all honesty, i think it's better than Microsoft Office for PC. After using a bunch of different word processors, i have found Microsoft Office to be the best one out there... and compared to Microsoft Office for Windows, the price is right!

A+ to Microsoft for Microsoft Office for Mac...
although it would be nice to see a full working version of Microsoft Access for Mac
that i don't need a PC emulation application or Boot Camp/Parallel Desktops for.

Redmond, start your photocopiers, and make sure it's converting black and white to color this time.
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: kimmer on March 28, 2007, 11:10:35 AM
QUOTE(Gregg)
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Wish I knew how to do a word search on that matrix page. I scanned it quickly looking for only one thing:
Converts AppleWorks 6 documents (.cwk and, um, whatever the spreadsheet suffix is - I forget)
Didn't find it.

Haven't yet read the article, but NeoOffice does NOT open AppleWorks docs. No, wait, it will open them - but they look like

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I've always just opened my AppleWorks docs, copied/pasted or highlighted/dragged. That works fine.

I like NeoOffice, but like OpenOffice better. I just haven't yet installed X11 on my Mac so that I can run OpenOffice. Maybe some day. wink.gif

As far as Word. I loved Word 5.1a. It was the best word processing program ever - bar none. Smooth, fast, powerful. If it ran in OSX, I'd still be using it. It doesn't, and I had way too many crashes with Word on the Mac and so ... I'm microsludge free. hehehe
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: Gregg on March 28, 2007, 12:06:35 PM
Good info!
But, to be honest, I've made my choice.
It will be MS Office, because we own 3 licenses. Only 2 are in use. The third is for me when I upgrade the computer in 2037. wink.gif
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: Epaminondas on March 28, 2007, 12:18:12 PM
I have been running OpenOffice.org on Linux for  years.

Runs fine.

Handles Microsoft .doc files seamlessly.

I have also put OpenOffice.org on a Windows machine.

Runs fine.


OpenOffice.org just keeps getting better and better . . .


Helpful documentation - manuals, FAQs, how-tos:

http://documentation.openoffice.org/


Best regards,

Epaminondas
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: sandbox on March 28, 2007, 12:35:21 PM
I have NeoOffice and it works just fine. Neither Openoffice nor NeoOffice will open Applworks documents directly. Save-as .text,  RTF or any word.doc and they will open.

I have the MacOffice suite so I don't use NeoOffice beyond testing/demonstrating and recommending it to others. It works fine for others. I run OpenOffice in Windows XP Pro and Ubuntu and it works without a hitch.

MS Word will open Appleworks files directly, but they were allowed too through an Apple/MS cooperative arrangement. If Apple or Appleworks releases it's code then Neo/openOffice will be able to open it.
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: jcarter on March 28, 2007, 08:52:53 PM
I would never ever in a million years have any use for Microsoft Office, yet I think its on these Macs. But NeoOffice is just fine for me. When people send me a powerpoint thingie of a batch of nice photos of a trip theyve taken, all I do is open it in NeoOffice and thats that.  Its really great and free, though you can send donations which I do sometimes for software like this.
Jane
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: Parker on March 28, 2007, 09:18:33 PM
QUOTE
I have been running OpenOffice.org on Linux for years.

Runs fine


Key word: Linux

OpenOffice is really one of your only options for decent Linux word processing,
but while you can get a Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac license for as low as $49.6666666666666....... it's well worth it (in my opinion).





So you ask where did i get $49.66666... from?
Well, take the Student and Teacher edition.
It comes with 3 licenses at $149.
Divide $149 by the amount of licenses
which is 3
so you have 149/3
and you get $49.666666.... per license
biggrin.gif
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: Epaminondas on March 28, 2007, 11:28:08 PM
QUOTE
OpenOffice is really one of your only options for decent Linux word processing,

I have used the following word processors in Linux:

OpenOffice.org (cross platform)
Abiword (cross platform)
KWord

I seem to be settling down with OpenOffice.org over Abiword and KWord.

Others prefer other programs.  Each has its srengths and weakensses.


Another pool of possibilities:

QUOTE
1) Abiword.
2) TextMaker [Prop]
3) WordPerfect.
4) Ted.
5) StarOffice / OpenOffice Writer.
6) Kword.
7) LyX.
8) Kile (KDE Integrated LaTeX Environment).

The table of equivalents / replacements / analogs of Windows software in Linux


Best regards,

Epaminondas
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: Gregg on March 29, 2007, 07:31:27 AM
I've heard that Ted really flys! bump.gif
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: sandyman on March 29, 2007, 07:40:27 AM
QUOTE(Gregg @ Mar 29 2007, 01:31 PM) [snapback]123284[/snapback]
I've heard that Ted really flys! bump.gif

Which is more than can be said, unfortunately, for Open Office sad.gif It's a real resource hog and very slow to start up.  I haven't been able to compare it to Office 2003/2007 but on the same hardware it's way slower and uses more memory than Office XP.  

Personally I use Abiword on OS X and Word '97 on Windows. Word '97 is 10 years old and still does everything I need  biggrin.gif I'm evaluating Mariner Write and it looks as though I may go down that road.

Sandy
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: Epaminondas on March 30, 2007, 10:08:49 AM
Minireview: NeoOffice 2.1 for OS X:

http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/...w-neooffice-2-1
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: Mrious_be on March 30, 2007, 11:49:23 AM
Just tossing in some of my experience.
I really like NeoOffice for as much as I use it.
I bet MS Office does the job, but from the times I used it till know, I feel NeoOffice is abit more intuitive to use.
The spreadsheet in NeoOffice is really great and with hardly any experiences with spreadsheets it was really easy to create a 12-sheet month-by-month document to track income and expenses I do, transferring the endresult of every month to the next one.
Appart from that I don't use NeoOffice to much... oh yeah, the PowerPoint function from NeoOffice doesn't work to well as far as I know.
But hey... PowerPoint is about the lousiest software out there (where people have to pay for).

smile.gif
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: sandbox on March 30, 2007, 01:07:05 PM
E.... I downloaded 2.1 the day it was released...... it took an hour and a half for 136 mb or so. All the server were taxed.
There is no noticeable speed increase that I can see.

MS Office is slow, it would be hard to measure the difference between any word processing program, none that I've found are fast...... zoom.. zoom.

It takes an extra step to open some other documents with Neo but really it's not that big-O-deal. neo/open-office is a great alternative to the MS Office suite.
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: Epaminondas on March 30, 2007, 05:43:06 PM
Sandbox,



If you are looking for a quick word processor, try taking AbiWord out for a spin.

Cross platform (Linux / Windows / MacOSX), small and fast.

And of course - Free.

http://www.abiword.com/



Best regards,

Epaminondas
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: gunug on March 31, 2007, 12:48:39 AM
The Open Office folk just posted another update to 2.2; it's up for Windows, Linux, and X11 for MAC OS X!  I guess the NeoOffice folk will follow fairly soon!

http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3561829136.html
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: danf63 on March 31, 2007, 07:25:43 AM
QUOTE(sandyman @ Mar 29 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]123287[/snapback]
Which is more than can be said, unfortunately, for Open Office sad.gif It's a real resource hog and very slow to start up.  

Sandy


I agree. I've also tried Google Docs & Spreadsheets but that's the slowest (and it's the one I really wanted to have work because everything is stored online- which is my fetish).

Dan
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: Mrious_be on April 01, 2007, 05:47:11 AM
QUOTE(sandyman @ Mar 29 2007, 01:40 PM) [snapback]123287[/snapback]
Which is more than can be said, unfortunately, for Open Office sad.gif It's a real resource hog and very slow to start up.

Yeah... that's true though.
The version I use (the previous one) also crashes at times when closing off.
You don't notice it but next time starting it up cause it will ask you to recover the document you left (crashing) before.

Still i'm happy with it. smile.gif
Title: NeoOffice vs. M$ Office
Post by: danf63 on April 01, 2007, 02:33:00 PM
I have to change my opinion of Google Docs & Spreadsheets.

I'd only used it at work. At home it's very fast. The new problem is that the spreadsheet only seems to allow 100 rows.

Dan