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Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: pendragon on April 01, 2007, 07:44:15 AM
My Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA) with Apple precludes me from revealing proprietary detail, but because most, if not all, of this is posted elsewhere and it is commonly available, I have no problems with confirming the following. Still, please don’t quote me.

In addition to those things Steve has already announced and are posted at the Apple site:

1. Leopard no longer "officially" supports OS 9 or earlier. Legacy apps may still work, but Apple just won’t support them. You can however, install OS 9 on a separate volume and run Classic from there (even on Intel machines).

2. During the Leopard install, you are given the option to create specific partitioning to accommodate M$ Vista and Linux, a la Bootcamp. Reformatting your HD is not required. Depending on your processor and RAM, all OSs can run simultaneously & independently. A (minimum) 150 GB HD is required (250 GB is recommended), and 2 GB RAM (minimum) should you wish to run more than one OS. Dual processors are required (quad preferred) for optimum performance, though this may change in 10.5.1 or 10.5.2. To the extent the app allows it, you can drag and drop between OSs

3. DiskWarrior (in lieu of TechTool) will be bundled with 10.5 if one chooses Apple Care or extends their current Apple Care contract. I don’t know the pricing or specific details, though Apple Care for older machines will increase significantly with the machine’s age. Machines over 6 years old (from date of mfgr.) are not eligible.

4. Safari will include editable Helpers (finally). Safari Tabs can be assigned colors. Safari will be about 37% faster (YMMV). The default for Safari bookmarks will now be alphabetical by folder (finally). Safari will include configurable parental controls (for those who want configured parents). Safari will now import Firefox and Camino bookmarks. Also, there are 12 new Safari “skins”.

5. The Dock will be much different. One new feature is that as icons are added, they will automatically migrate/expand around the screen as needed (or, you can reduce the size of the icons as presently done). Also, multiple docks are an option as is the amount/speed of “bounce” desired in those dock apps launching or needing your attention. There is an accompanying bounce sound, a boing-boing sort of thing.

6. Hooks are built-in to support an Apple PDA, but I can say no more. Think of the iPhone on steroids.

7. All Metadata will be editable.

8. You can have 3 ‘Finder’ windows open simultaneously, much like having 3 displays, all running different applications or OS’s. If networked, any 3 computers can be displayed. Depending on the function/application, you can even Drag & Drop between displays. Password or Admin. privileges are required. (see #2 above).

9. Widgets can run on any or all of your open windows, similar to the way Stickies can be placed anywhere.

10. Terminal has balloons that will appear with alerts/warning notes should you wish to do something that you will (later) wish you hadn’t.

11. Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight, and iChat will become one integrated application, much like Entourage (but better). Included is a customizable Auto Responder and voice activated dialing via numbers or Address Book names. You will be able to automatically send email & initiate iSight meetings, etc. that are linked/pegged to specific calendar events. This feature is called AutoPilot (see #6 above).

12. Voice recognition/security has returned as an option (see #6 above). Note: Use with caution. I am still not certain this will make the final release (it’s still a bit buggy); perhaps delayed until 10.5.1. dntknw.gif

13. An across the board speed increase of 35 - 40%. YMMV.

14. Font, Printer, and User Preference (.plist) verify & repair routines are built-in and are schedulable.

15. Sherlock has been eliminated (use Widgets instead).

16. When Repairing Permissions, you will have the opportunity to save and print the results.

17. Airport (Extreme only) will notify you via the airport icon flashing in the menu bar if your signal is being hijacked or used by anyone other than you authorized.

18. Startups, Restarts, & User Switching will be exactly as the User left the machine; open apps, window positions, network connections, etc. will all be reestablished.

19. Bundled with Leopard is a small app called “TrashBack”, a program to recover deleted files. Of course, the sooner one uses it after trashing the better.

20. Numerous (other) bug fixes, including a totally rewritten Spotlight.

21. Your Home folder can no longer be moved or modified without root privileges.

Leopard will be announced June 11th at the WWDC and be available for shipment at that time (and I can hardly wait for the final version).  cheer.gif
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: Dick Miller on April 01, 2007, 10:54:06 AM
Ohh, looks like I'll be standing in line at the Apple Store again.  thumbup.gif
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: bellbram on April 01, 2007, 11:41:25 AM
r u 1st in the q Harv, or r u waiting for the bugs to be sprayed?
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: krissel on April 02, 2007, 12:41:24 AM
Thanks for the insight into the next OS. thanx.gif

Does Leopard include some sort of Sheep Shaver app that allows OS 9 to be run on Intel machines or what? I imagine you can't boot to that volume but just run the OS that's installed there?

As to Apple Care not being available after your Mac is 6 years old, I thought after 3 years you were on your own? (one year from purchase plus two additional years if you buy AppleCare)
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: sandbox on April 02, 2007, 02:57:02 AM
It might be time for at least one new machine, if my dearest really doesn't want to go through a new learning curve just yet.

What bothers me most about new OS's is that one needs to upgrade most other software as well. I just opened up the application folder to find 120 applications listed. Then, in the utility folder another 58. A few applications on root level and few more in the users file and we're talking close to 200 applications. How many are built into the  Apple CD 20-30? I could spend thousands of hours just upgrading all my apps, not to mention the cost. Just the cost of a new or upgraded Office Suite and Adobe Suite could exceed the price of a new Macbook. It's a perilous journey and one I don’t look forward too with the same delight as others, unfortunately, but curiosity eventually gets the best of me...... ummm December? 10.5.1 wacko.gif
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: krissel on April 02, 2007, 03:06:10 AM
I hear ya, SB.

It would be nice to have the latest and greatest but I think I'll wait until I just can't make do with what I've got. One look at the price of the new Adobe software made me choke.

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Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: pendragon on April 02, 2007, 04:15:48 AM
Please note the date of my earlier post. Devilish2.gif

If anyone took offense, please accept my apology. tears.gif

Still, watch this space next April, when I will again announce the latest and greatest from Infinate Loop. harhar.gif  yahoo.gif
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: sandbox on April 02, 2007, 04:34:48 AM
You sneaky guy you.  clap.gif
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: jcarter on April 02, 2007, 07:09:54 AM
WOW!
I think I will wait until the fall or perhaps near to Christmas, and get a new one with everything installed.  
Jane
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: Mrious_be on April 02, 2007, 12:04:55 PM
QUOTE(pendragon @ Apr 2 2007, 10:15 AM) [snapback]123618[/snapback]
Please note the date of my earlier post. Devilish2.gif

Aaargh... there has to be a law against this rant.gif lol tongue.gif
Good one though... I guess asking if any of these might be true is to much? tongue.gif
As far as i remember you did this last year also? didn't you? wink.gif

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Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: Jack W on April 02, 2007, 05:35:47 PM
Way to go, Harv!

A good one.
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: Gary S on April 02, 2007, 06:18:28 PM
Harvey,

Go to your room! police.gif

You got me.  blush-anim-cl.gif

I didn't check in yesterday. I was busy playing foolish jokes on everyone. tongue.gif
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: Gregg on April 02, 2007, 07:34:32 PM
QUOTE(krissel @ Apr 2 2007, 03:06 AM) [snapback]123617[/snapback]
It would be nice to have the latest and greatest but I think I'll wait until I just can't make do with what I've got. One look at the price of the new ______ software made me choke.


Uh, yeah! That's why it's not time!
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: MamaMoose on April 02, 2007, 08:58:30 PM
Harve, you rascal you!! Got me the first few words (10.5). I will be interested to see how many of these out-of-the-air predictions actually come true.

MamaMoose
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: krissel on April 03, 2007, 12:24:17 AM
Hey, that's not fair. You aren't supposed to make April Fool's jokes that have true things in them.
For instance I've read that the multiple desktops may be part of Leopard and the changes in Safari would only be a reflection of Shapeshifter influence, etc.

All in all, most of those are very reasonable possibilities.

Well done Harv!

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Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: pendragon on April 03, 2007, 06:53:36 AM
Me thinks there is a saying (or two) about “paybacks”. Do you think I should start behaving? Nah… wink.gif
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: Parker on April 03, 2007, 11:18:10 AM
QUOTE
15. Sherlock has been eliminated (use Widgets instead).

Don't we have spotlight??
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: pendragon on April 03, 2007, 01:53:47 PM
Parker,

When referencing Sherlock, I was referring to Stocks, Movies, Flights, AppleCare etc.

While I regret having caused a bit of distress, I am pleased that my April's Fools thread was found worthy of your comment. clap.gif

Already my plan for next year is in the making. Be afraid, be very afraid... coolio.gif
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: Mrious_be on April 04, 2007, 12:45:53 PM
QUOTE(pendragon @ Apr 3 2007, 07:53 PM) [snapback]123736[/snapback]
Already my plan for next year is in the making. Be afraid, be very afraid... coolio.gif

Noooo... don't tell us even this.
Now we aren't going to take any of your posts serious anymore... well the ones posted on April 1 that is.

 rabbit3.gif Hi from Easterbunny
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: Parker on April 04, 2007, 09:25:18 PM
ohhh
i do remember some of those features when i used sherlock in OS9
and i just opened it in Tiger
It's a pretty cool tool
just never really used it.

well... we have for those movie times and stocks... eh?
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: RHPConsult on April 04, 2007, 10:01:04 PM
QUOTE
MamaMoose     Posted Apr 2 2007, 06:58 PM
     Harv . . . Got me the first few words (10.5). I will be interested to see how many of these out-of-the-air predictions actually come true.
 Tom! Had you showed-up at MacWorld, you coiuld have see all these glories on a 40 x 60 ft. screen!
Leopard demo here
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: sandbox on April 05, 2007, 07:23:31 AM
is there a list of software ready for Leopard somewhere?
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: pendragon on April 05, 2007, 08:24:07 AM
QUOTE(sandbox @ Apr 5 2007, 08:23 AM) [snapback]123848[/snapback]
is there a list of software ready for Leopard somewhere?


I've not seen such a critter SB, but no doubt (IMNHO) conflicts, crashes & incompatibilities will occur.

When such a list is developed, perhaps a loyal TSer will post the link.

Still, it is likely I'll have an early copy.

"Fools rush in where..." Nah, not moi!
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: Gregg on April 05, 2007, 12:09:14 PM
QUOTE(pendragon @ Apr 5 2007, 08:24 AM) [snapback]123853[/snapback]
I've not seen such a critter SB, but no doubt (IMNHO) conflicts, crashes & incompatibilities will occur.


In other words, older software performance with Leopard is likely to be spotty for awhile. bump.gif
Title: Leopard 10.5 Preview
Post by: Mrious_be on April 05, 2007, 12:51:58 PM
QUOTE(sandbox @ Apr 5 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]123848[/snapback]
is there a list of software ready for Leopard somewhere?

I found that Versiontracker already has a section ready with some utilities and stuff that is ready in support to Leopard.
About real professional software, have no idea but I can't imagine that companies like Adobe will hesitate long with updating software (when needed) to benefit Leopard fully.

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