Post by: Francine Eisner on June 26, 2007, 01:19:21 PM
I had never before made a bootable backup, and want to thank all of you so much for your moral support, info about CCC etc.
XXXXX
Francine
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 26, 2007, 02:49:21 PM
All together now...Hip, Hip, Hooray!
ps: why isn't there an "e" in <notworthy> ?
Post by: sandbox on June 26, 2007, 03:35:34 PM
I noticed you wanted to know what basic files were needed to boot. I hope you don't just boot to a minimal drive? The best reason for a bootable backups is to secure the data you have on your internal drive.
My backup plan consisted of using drives that could be installed into my Macs if the original failed. The Porsche style use Western Digital notebook drives that I can swap out with either iBook or eMac without loosing data or time.
Now that you have a good idea about bootable backups, create a plan that will secure your data to suit your needs. I set my backup software to automatically turn on once a day, and keep email on my server for seven days. If my computer fails I can recover everything except work done between backups and all my incoming email is secure on an external mail-server.
Post by: kelly on June 26, 2007, 06:56:56 PM
Post by: Francine Eisner on June 26, 2007, 09:29:02 PM
QUOTE(sandbox @ Jun 26 2007, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Francine I run 3 Lacie Porsche backup drive using Lacie software SilverKeeper and I backup my other 5 drives with it too.
I noticed you wanted to know what basic files were needed to boot. I hope you don't just boot to a minimal drive? The best reason for a bootable backups is to secure the data you have on your internal drive.
My backup plan consisted of using drives that could be installed into my Macs if the original failed. The Porsche style use Western Digital notebook drives that I can swap out with either iBook or eMac without loosing data or time.
Now that you have a good idea about bootable backups, create a plan that will secure your data to suit your needs. I set my backup software to automatically turn on once a day, and keep email on my server for seven days. If my computer fails I can recover everything except work done between backups and all my incoming email is secure on an external mail-server.
I noticed you wanted to know what basic files were needed to boot. I hope you don't just boot to a minimal drive? The best reason for a bootable backups is to secure the data you have on your internal drive.
My backup plan consisted of using drives that could be installed into my Macs if the original failed. The Porsche style use Western Digital notebook drives that I can swap out with either iBook or eMac without loosing data or time.
Now that you have a good idea about bootable backups, create a plan that will secure your data to suit your needs. I set my backup software to automatically turn on once a day, and keep email on my server for seven days. If my computer fails I can recover everything except work done between backups and all my incoming email is secure on an external mail-server.
I'm not sure if I can set the backup software to work automatically. I used CCC to make the backups, and I'll have to take a thorough look at the version of Silverkeeper that came with my Lacie. I bought it about 3 years ago, if I'm not mistaken.
BTW I did not backup a minimal drive, partly b/c I didn't know what was essential and what was not. I made my HD lean and mean before upgrading to OS X, and then I backed up pretty much the entire list of what showed up in the CCC window. I also burned a couple of nonbootable CDs of what looked like essential files, and of all of my documents. I'd like to learn to set up an automatic backup, but so far I have been really good about backing up every month or so. For me, this has been OK because I don't really have all that much stuff on my HD. What I would miss losing the most is stuff I've written, and of my research materials and PowerPoint experiments, and I almost always print a hard copy. I also have a habit of mailing these documents to my Yahoo address, so they're backed up online as well.
Cheers,
Francine
Post by: sandbox on June 26, 2007, 10:55:30 PM
http://www.lacie.com/silverkeeper/
here’s some data on the software
look at schedule. http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=10097
here you’ll see an option called (one click) which I have, but don't used.
http://www.lacie.com/us/products/range.htm?id=10050
*** breakdown on silverkeeper scheduling
http://www.macobserver.com/tmoguides/backup/chapter4.shtml
at google link on scheduling
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=s...G=Google+Search
Post by: krissel on June 26, 2007, 11:49:31 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Jun 26 2007, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ps: why isn't there an "e" in <notworthy> ?
Because it's not supposed to be 'note worthy', it's supposed to be NOT worthy, as in 'I'm not worthy of being in the presence of such intelligence and wit'.
Post by: Gregg on June 27, 2007, 07:27:21 AM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 27, 2007, 09:06:36 AM
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as in 'I'm not worthy of being in the presence of such intelligence and wit'
Well, that sure fits me to a 
But I still think it should be saying the person being praised is "noteworthy" as in:CODE
Adj.
1. noteworthy - worthy of notice; "a noteworthy advance in cancer research"
notable
worthy - having worth or merit or value; being honorable or admirable; "a worthy fellow"; "no student deemed worthy, and chosen for admission, would be kept out for lack of funds"- Nathan Pusey; "worthy of acclaim"; "orthy of consideration"; "a worthy cause"
2. noteworthy - worthy of notice; "a noteworthy fact is that her students rarely complain"; "a remarkable achievement"
remarkable
significant, important - important in effect or meaning; "a significant change in tax laws"; "a significant change in the Constitution"; "a significant contribution"; "significant details"; "statistically significant"
1. noteworthy - worthy of notice; "a noteworthy advance in cancer research"
notable
worthy - having worth or merit or value; being honorable or admirable; "a worthy fellow"; "no student deemed worthy, and chosen for admission, would be kept out for lack of funds"- Nathan Pusey; "worthy of acclaim"; "orthy of consideration"; "a worthy cause"
2. noteworthy - worthy of notice; "a noteworthy fact is that her students rarely complain"; "a remarkable achievement"
remarkable
significant, important - important in effect or meaning; "a significant change in tax laws"; "a significant change in the Constitution"; "a significant contribution"; "significant details"; "statistically significant"
Post by: sandbox on June 27, 2007, 12:40:28 PM
If you read the whole thing and follow some of it's suggestions you'll have a lifetime of safe data.
I agree with Bob LeVitus on the usefulness of Retrospect and used it throughout my OS 9 years, but when I switched to OS 10 it didn't work for me, so in desperation I used SilverKeeper and found that it simply worked and suited my needs. I planned to only use Firewire or USB drives so there was no compelling reason to continue using software that would backup tape drives. I didn't see a purpose in network backups with each computer station being capable of backing up on schedule. So as it turned out I had upgraded Retrospect to it's OS 10 version and never used it. Maybe someday if the need arises I'll put it back into action once again.
Post by: krissel on June 27, 2007, 08:33:17 PM
Post by: Bbob on June 27, 2007, 09:06:23 PM
I understand your elation.
I just used SuperDuper to backup to an external drive. SuperDuper erased the drive, copied my entire hard drive to the external, made the external a bootable drive, and restarted from that external drive. Wonder of wonders, it worked perfectly. It took quite a while to copy the entire drive, but I did it while I wasn't using the computer anyway.
SuperDuper is shareware and it can do everything I just described. I paid the fee ($27.95, as I recall) and can now do backups much faster. An option lets you only backup files that have changed, and that goes quickly. I plan to backup at least once a week, since it is so easy and fast. Aren't Macs wonderful?
Post by: Francine Eisner on June 28, 2007, 06:52:11 AM
QUOTE(Bbob @ Jun 27 2007, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Francine,
http://www.techsurvivors.net/forums/style_...es/rte-bold.png
I understand your elation.
Aren't Macs wonderful?
http://www.techsurvivors.net/forums/style_...es/rte-bold.png
I understand your elation.
Aren't Macs wonderful?
You know...I do think Macs are wonderful. But what is even more wonderful and rare is the special sense of community here at TS. Mac owners are a certain "breed;" we like to tinker around more than most PC-only users (Yeah...I do think we're smarter
). But it goes far beyond that here. TS members are just plain nicer...!Cheers,
Francine
