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Title: Name this painting
Post by: LR827 on August 08, 2007, 08:37:47 PM

Bonjour, bonjour! We just got back from gay Pareeee! Our son was over there for a study course this summer and convinced us to come and visit at the end of his course. We had a fabulous time!

Now I have a problem that I hope someone here might be able to help me with. I took a photograph of a painting in the Louvre, but I lost the note I wrote noting the painter's name and the name of the painting. I'm wondering if anyone can identify it for me?

The other question is whether anyone can advise about using the photo of this painting (which is several centuries old) on the cover of a book ... Do I need permission for that?

Here is the painting... Any help will be greatly appreciated!  Merci beaucoup!

Title: Name this painting
Post by: Paddy on August 08, 2007, 08:58:56 PM

La Jeune Martyre by Paul Delaroche.

http://www.allposters.com/-sp/La-Jeune-Mar...s_i1113809_.htm

Do I get a prize?

Info: from the Hermitage

QUOTE

A Christian Martyr Drowned in the Tiber During the Reign of Diocletian
Delaroche, Hippolyte (Paul).
Oil on canvas. 73.5x60 cm
France. 1853   
Source of Entry:   Stone Island Palace, Leningrad. 1924

The idea for this painting came to Delaroche during a time of severe illness. It deals with the terrible persecution suffered by Christians during the first century AD. The effective contrast of the crimson sunset and the cold, cold, greenish-blue tones of the water, with its reflections of that mystical light which illuminates the face of the martyr thrown into the Tiber with her hands tied, gives the painting a very Romantic feel. A contemporary of Delaroche, the writer Theophile Gautier, poetically described this image as that of "the Christian Ophelia" and was particularly admiring of the face "of virginal purity and divine beauty".

As for copyright - not sure - info here (haven't read it all yet):

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/about/copyright-issues.html

Title: Name this painting
Post by: Gregg on August 09, 2007, 07:17:32 AM

Ok, give up the secret. :stickup:

What means did you use to come up with that?

Title: Name this painting
Post by: dboh on August 09, 2007, 07:34:31 AM

Interesting that it was painted a year or two after Millais' "Death of Ophelia." I wonder if your artist saw it?

http://www.tate.org.uk/ophelia/


I think at the very least you'd need permission from the Louvre, but your publisher can better advise you.

Title: Name this painting
Post by: Paddy on August 09, 2007, 12:27:39 PM

Gregg, I tried Googling "Louvre + bound woman floating" and variations on that. Found someone on Epinions had mentioned the painting with a brief description (in a much longer description of a trip to Europe) and she'd called it "The Martyre" - after that, it was easy. :)Copyright for artists works in the EU is 70 years; Delaroche died in 1856, so I think you'd be ok. Obviously, checking with the Louvre might be in order.

Title: Name this painting
Post by: LR827 on August 09, 2007, 12:28:39 PM

Paddy! Amazing!!  I was wracking my brains over this, madly going through every receipt which I summarily tossed into my backpack trying to locate the note I put the info on! I, too, Googled "Lady in Lake," and "Nymph" and "Nymphe" because I recalled something like that with a "y" in it... I didn't recall "Martyre."

Also, the copyright info you linked to seems to be fairly clear -- that any copyright claim has long since expired, and owning the painting in the public domain (the Louvre) does not confer copyright. So it seems that I can use it.


dboh, thanks! That is an interesting question. The paintings are remarkably similar. I'm not knowledgeable in the history of art, but perhaps someone else here can answer it.

Thanks again to all for your help!

Lorraine

P. S. Paddy, yes... Your prize is a free copy of the book! (Don't cry... You don't have to read it!)

Title: Name this painting
Post by: Paddy on August 09, 2007, 12:39:35 PM

Well, Lorraine, it can't be more incomprehensible (to me, that is) than either of my husband's books!!

http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Delta-...r/dp/0471465852
http://www.amazon.com/Delta-Sigma-Data-Con...1041&sr=1-2

Title: Name this painting
Post by: Gregg on August 09, 2007, 12:58:23 PM

You can find anything on the internet. Sometimes it takes real talent. Good one!

I missed the Louvre on my visit to Paris. I had a stomach flu that day.

Title: Name this painting
Post by: LR827 on August 09, 2007, 01:02:14 PM

QUOTE(Paddy @ Aug 9 2007, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Well, Lorraine, it can't be more incomprehensible (to me, that is) than either of my husband's books!!

http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Delta-...r/dp/0471465852
http://www.amazon.com/Delta-Sigma-Data-Con...1041&sr=1-2

Actually, Paddy, I'm quite familiar with that topic. I had a Data witha Delta-Sigma in college, as I recall...

Title: Name this painting
Post by: Paddy on August 09, 2007, 02:27:54 PM

Must have been an electric evening!