Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 28, 2007, 07:54:52 AM
Possibly the most onerous 'baggage' many of these folks carried were the multiple declarations of bankruptcy many had. Some had used that technique five times in 12 years! One had done it done several different names in multiple states and cities. These are the people who will be making financial decisions affecting the city budget. And that budget will also affect me, even though I live in the county since many services are mutually shared and paid for.
I'm sure things are bad in other localities but I sincerely hope not as bad as this report indicates! I wouldn't wish this kind of corruption and malfeasance on any place! The records are too numerous to list here but you can view the article at <Candidates "Baggage">
Post by: snuffysbluff on October 08, 2007, 07:56:34 PM
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Yesterday our local paper presented an investigative report on several people running in some local elections. Mayoral and City Council positions, mostly. Out of almost a hundred candidates, 40+ had numerous delinquent tax bills. That alone is specifically listed in the city's charter as prohibiting hold public office. Even more amazing and saddening were the number of people with convictions for offenses up to felonies! (Fraud, Misuse of Public Funds, Bribery, etc.)
Possibly the most onerous 'baggage' many of these folks carried were the multiple declarations of bankruptcy many had. Some had used that technique five times in 12 years! One had done it done several different names in multiple states and cities. These are the people who will be making financial decisions affecting the city budget. And that budget will also affect me, even though I live in the county since many services are mutually shared and paid for.
I'm sure things are bad in other localities but I sincerely hope not as bad as this report indicates! I wouldn't wish this kind of corruption and malfeasance on any place! The records are too numerous to list here but you can view the article at <Candidates "Baggage">
Possibly the most onerous 'baggage' many of these folks carried were the multiple declarations of bankruptcy many had. Some had used that technique five times in 12 years! One had done it done several different names in multiple states and cities. These are the people who will be making financial decisions affecting the city budget. And that budget will also affect me, even though I live in the county since many services are mutually shared and paid for.
I'm sure things are bad in other localities but I sincerely hope not as bad as this report indicates! I wouldn't wish this kind of corruption and malfeasance on any place! The records are too numerous to list here but you can view the article at <Candidates "Baggage">
The world is what it is, Jim. I, for one, am grateful for the investigative reporting. Someday perhaps politics will be a service instead of a self serving, ego building, perceived validation of worth.
That said, I have to admit to being in arrears to the tax man on occastion early on my self employment career. But, then, if nominated I will not run, if elected, I will not serve.
Gary B
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 08, 2007, 09:03:37 PM
Post by: snuffysbluff on October 09, 2007, 04:51:08 AM
Omaha has always been a little corrupt if not dangerous. I owned an acre in an upscale neighborhood at one time. The politicians promised no tax hike but they raised the mill levy instead. Pretty slick. My taxes doubled. I, who had no clout, tried for three years to get it re-zoned for multiple-family housing. Didn't happen for me. Sold it to some "fool" who built fancy condos and made a fortune. Good old boys win again.
Now I have an acre outside of Omaha and all is well.
My boys like it here also...
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Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 09, 2007, 07:38:44 AM
But it looks like you need a 'doggy Welcome mat' at their entrance! Bet there's one inside! Or do you just add that cleanup to their 'chores?' 
Many think it's time for all of us who moved out of Memphis to move back to re-take it. No thanks, my future is invested in the small, independent municipality where we live.
Post by: krissel on October 10, 2007, 01:02:54 AM
Those guys are adorable. Are they the same ones in that Xmas pic from a while back?
Too cute!
Post by: snuffysbluff on October 10, 2007, 05:38:42 AM
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Hi Gary!
Those guys are adorable. Are they the same ones in that Xmas pic from a while back?
Too cute!
Those guys are adorable. Are they the same ones in that Xmas pic from a while back?
Too cute!
Same ones, Kris. Two brothers, Mother and Father. I have four weiners and a black lab. Five is way to may dogs and probably against local codes, but I've a big yard and I went to school with the mayor.
Eccentricity is expected and I don't dissapoint.
"Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner."
Gary B
Post by: LR827 on October 15, 2007, 03:03:48 PM
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...I'm sure things are bad in other localities but I sincerely hope not as bad as this report indicates! I wouldn't wish this kind of corruption and malfeasance on any place! ...
Come to Chicago, Jim. I hate to sound like I'm trying to one-up you, but this place -- the whole state of Illinois -- gives corruption totally new meaning. Look up "corruption" in the dictionary, and you'll see a photograph of our governor, our mayor (of Chicago), all of "his" aldermen, the Cook County Board President and all "his" commissioners... and... oh, well.
The following editorial was in the Trib today, and although I do not always agree with this particular columnist:
www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped1015byrneoct15,0,2881462.story
Do they really think voters are that dumb?
By Dennis Byrne
a Chicago-area writer and consultant
October 15, 2007
Isn't there some way for fed-up citizens of Illinois, Cook County and Chicago to force their governments into receivership?
After all, when a corporation is as stunningly incompetent as are Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, legislative leaders, Cook County Board President Todd Stroger, Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley and his toady City Council, creditors can force it into bankruptcy in which a court-appointed trustee straightens out the mess or, if necessary, shuts it down to preserve the remains.
If the city, county or state were corporations, their creditors long ago would have forced their operations out of the hands of the bunglers and turned it over to a court-appointed executive.
So, why shouldn't we citizens and taxpayers have the same right to protect our publicly held assets from Blagojevich, Daley, Stroger and the rest of the clinkers who have so miserably failed to govern in the interests of the governed?
I make this suggestion with tongue only slightly in cheek. Look at the shambles that our "leaders" have given us: A state run by a governor who thinks we should cough up our money for every cockamamie giveaway and tax-increase scheme he hatches. Legislative leaders whose personal animosities have turned the state capital into a preschool playpen. A Cook County government, so wildly mis-, mal- and non-managed by Stroger and his cronies that they want to hit us up with a huge sales tax increase to bail them out.
Now comes Daley with a $293 million bundle of tax, fee and fine increases, including the city's largest-ever property tax increase, to finance an operation stinking with corruption and looting. Daley says blame the aldermen knocking on his "side door" for the goodies. Well, blame whomever; Daley is giving it away to somebody.
His 2008 budget would increase expenditures by more than 5 percent, and over two years by $700 million or 12 percent. Daley laughably suggests that Chicagoans should be happy with the higher taxes because they'll get some new neighborhood libraries. ...Just coincidentally, the contracts would guarantee labor peace through the 2016 Olympics, in effect, imposing a hidden Games tax.
This piano-load of new taxes lands on Chicagoans and their visitors as they already are paying some of the nation's highest taxes and fees. That's thanks to the current $5 billion budget that imposed increases of about $75 million in taxes and $11 million in fees. ...
John McCarron, one of the city's most insightful columnists, raised this issue in this space last summer, when things in Springfield looked like they couldn't get worse. Why, he wondered, when Democrats run it all, can't they win the war for their own agenda: "progressive taxation, for equal access to jobs and educational opportunities, for a semblance of social justice."
Good question, and I don't have the answer... Maybe it's a matter of greed: now that they control the pot of gold, too many hands want to dip into it. Or purity: every "program" or "service" on the agenda must be fully funded.
Or, maybe Daley himself provides the answer when he takes Chicagoans for dopes by saying they "know that if I propose raising taxes it's because we've exhausted every other option ..."
He could be right. Perhaps voters are dumb enough to knowingly elect incompetents. Maybe we don't need a trustee to fix things; maybe just smarter, more responsible voters.
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Dennis Byrne is a Chicago-area writer and consultant. E-mail: http://dennis byrne.blogspot.com
Copyright © 2007, Chicago Tribune
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 15, 2007, 09:47:09 PM
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Ah, but Lorraine, this is the kicker. Read the article at this link first. Then look at the date.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...,790322,00.html
End of story.
Post by: Gregg on October 16, 2007, 07:16:00 AM
I believe it was Winston Churchill that said, "Democracy is the worst form of government, execpt for all the rest."
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 16, 2007, 08:46:39 PM
"Studity is doing the same thing while expecting different results."
Post by: RobW on October 16, 2007, 09:18:07 PM
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"Studity is doing the same thing while expecting different results."
"Studity is doing the same thing while expecting different results."
Not to nitpick--we'll I guess I am, but it's "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." (Clearly, as Lorraine will attest, insanity and stupidity are quite different.)
BTW, for those who are interested, you can find that same quote (which I use a lot at work) attributed to both Albert Einstein or Ben Franklin. (At the bottom of the wikipedia link, it says that the quote is misattributed to Einstein.)
Jim, you may have heard them both speak--who said it first?
Post by: dboh on October 17, 2007, 07:15:53 AM
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"Stu[pi]dity is doing the same thing while expecting different results."
Camus also said (to paraphrase) "Stupidity has a knack of getting its way, which we would see if we were not always so wrapped up in ourselves."
Post by: LR827 on October 17, 2007, 12:56:49 PM
The quote about "insanity doing the same thing over & over & expecting different results" has a similar quote,
"Mental health: one darn thing after another. Mental illness: the same darn thing over & over again."
Jim, I pasted in that commentary too quickly, then went back 2 or 3 times trying to sanitize (de-politicize) it. Dennis Byrne railed vociferously at all Democrats in that article, and he is so one-sided that it's hard to read him. By the same token, Andrew Greely is horrifically anti-administration. If he would tone it down, pro-administration folks might take his reasonable objections more seriously.
But anyway, regarding Chicago politics, I don't think you will find more crooks anywhere -- with ongoing investigations and convictions. Do you remember Harold Washington, the first African-American mayor of Chicago? He was a convicted felon -- income tax evasion.
Krissy, that was a very interesting article!
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 18, 2007, 04:40:56 PM
"Stupidity" is assuming no one at TS will notice!
"Frustration" is using a computer without Typinator® installed!
As for who said what and when, I have slept since I first heard it, so I don't remember!
Post by: snuffysbluff on October 19, 2007, 03:29:19 AM
It's those pesky syntaxual pitfalls that'll get you.
