Post by: Jack W on January 26, 2008, 12:08:45 PM
The PB has no diskette, only a CD. I assume it is read only.
The iMac has a CD drive.
And, of curse, no firewire port on the PB.
Both have Ethernet ports.
She has been using the PB for most of her doc preps (Word for Classic). She has many docs.
She has hardly used the iMac at all. (But it is much faster and has OS X). That's a long story.
Older lady, and doesn't welcome change very readily.
She has Microsoft:Office X installed on the iMac.
Now how to get the Word docs xferred over to the iMac. The PB is way too slow for her. (Probably limited on memory and OS 9.2.2).
Can I connect an Enet cable between the computers and set up the PB for file sharing?
Does it have to be cross-over Enet cable?
Do the files have to be in a folder on Macintosh HD?
Or will the iMac show the complete desktop of the PB?
I also have an Asante Ethernet Hub.
If all else fails, I could take over 2 Enet cables and use the Hub.
The only problem with that is, if she continues to use the PB (for convenience), she will not have the Hub there to xfer any new files over to the iMac.
No, she can't have my Enet Hub!
- Thanks, Jack
Post by: Texas Mac Man on January 26, 2008, 02:14:20 PM
Post by: Gregg on January 26, 2008, 03:37:29 PM
QUOTE(Jack W @ Jan 26 2008, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can I connect an Enet cable between the computers and set up the PB for file sharing?
Does it have to be cross-over Enet cable?
Do the files have to be in a folder on Macintosh HD?
Or will the iMac show the complete desktop of the PB?
... if she continues to use the PB (for convenience)...
Does it have to be cross-over Enet cable?
Do the files have to be in a folder on Macintosh HD?
Or will the iMac show the complete desktop of the PB?
... if she continues to use the PB (for convenience)...
Yes, you can set up file sharing between OS9 and OSX. I did it awhile back, but had phone support, which I needed, due to using a new iBook. I did use a cross-over "Enet" cable. Whether or not that's required, I'm not sure. There is an article or two on the Apple Support web site that purports to explain how to set this up. I found my hard copies. Don't have them bookmarked, but here are the links that appear on the copies:
OS9
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106657
OSX
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106461
The "host" computer will show the entire file structure of the "guest" (my terms). At least that's the way I remember it. This was a few years ago.
If your friend continues to use the PB, it will be a pain to keep doing the file sharing. Good luck!
Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 26, 2008, 05:00:26 PM
Post by: Jack W on January 26, 2008, 09:10:40 PM
Thanks, ABD, I will give the direct cable connect a shot before I try the Hub route.
Hopefully will test this out next week. I'll post afterwards.
Thanks for the links, Gregg.
They look very helpful.
Jack
Post by: krissel on January 27, 2008, 03:38:11 AM
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42717
Is this the original G3 PB, the Kanga?
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powe...ook_g3_1st.html
If it is a Wallstreet there are PC card USB and FW ports that work fine. I have both for my Wallstreet and can use USB thumb drives as well as external FW drives. The Kanga also has Type II slots so it should be able to use the PC cards also.
http://people.wallawalla.edu/~Rob.Frohne/C...us/Cardbus.html
One other thing to consider if the ethernet doesn't pan out is to have her stuff the docs into some zip formatted files and email them to the other machine.
Post by: Gregg on January 27, 2008, 04:48:26 PM
QUOTE(Jack W @ Jan 26 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the links, Gregg.
They look very helpful.
They look very helpful.
Do let us know how it goes...
(and the credit for those links goes to, who else? .... kelly)
Post by: Jack W on January 27, 2008, 06:23:15 PM
QUOTE([b]Gregg[/b] @ Jan 27 2008, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Jack W @ Jan 26 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the links, Gregg.
They look very helpful.
They look very helpful.
Do let us know how it goes...
(and the credit for those links goes to, who else? .... kelly)
Speaking of kelly — I miss his posts! Tons of information in them.
krissel,
I don't know which PB it is.
But I do remember something on the left side toward the rear which may be a PCMCIA ? slot. I'll have to take my card over with an SD card. This would make it easy for me to do a one-time xfer, but wouldn't help her later. I also have an Edge USB Hub with card slots so I could read the card on the iMac.
I will have to check next time I go over there, hopefully this week — probably later in the week.
Thanks all, Jack
Post by: RHPConsult on January 27, 2008, 09:58:17 PM
Post by: krissel on January 27, 2008, 10:01:06 PM
Post by: RHPConsult on January 28, 2008, 10:01:00 AM
Post by: Jack W on January 28, 2008, 10:22:26 AM
I think the PB is a Wallstreet. It has no firewire or USB. The Pismo has USB.
I'll do some checking when I go back over later this week.
- Jack
Post by: jcarter on January 28, 2008, 07:40:21 PM
Kelly ressurected it and then sent me all my pictures from it on a CD. Not sure how it was done, but the result was perfect. The little lovely hardly used machine found a good home and my pictures, he sent right along. This one had USB.
See if you can get this info to him, he sure knows all about the little powerbooks, and will surely help you.
Jane
Post by: krissel on January 29, 2008, 11:19:28 PM
If you are only going to want to transfer some files then something like this would be satisfactory.
http://www.amazon.com/Viking-Card-CompactF...T/dp/B00000J3SA
It allows you to plug in Compact Flash card into your PCMCIA slot and use it as a mini drive. Of course you would need a card reader that takes CF and plugs into your other Mac and a CF card. However there are also further adapters that fit into this adapter that take other kinds of digital cards like SD.
Here are some links to read about cards for G3 PBs. There is also a combo FW/USB card available. I have two separate cards that work flawlessly but they are no longer sold. If you have a choice and only want to buy a single card, go for a FW so you can boot from it.
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F5U512-APL-Fi...k/dp/B0000CDMZ3
http://www.belkin.com/support/kb/kb.asp?langid=1&a=3290
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?t...8&tstart=60
http://www.macintouch.com/mos9usb.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/4120...2_0_2_Port.html
Post by: Jack W on January 31, 2008, 08:58:24 PM
PowerBook OS 9.2.2. It says IP address "Not available" ????
iMac OS X 10.2.0
Neither computer has internet access.
I went onto the PowerBook. Started File sharing.
Created Folder on hard disk called "Transfer". Set it for guest access.
Went to the iMac hooked to the PB w/Enet cable (straight thru).
Did the Go thing. Asked if I wanted to connect to IP 192.168.2.97. Now we're getting somewhere! WRONG!!!!!
Says it could not connect. I didn't write down the error message.
It sure doesn't help when the person you are trying to help is sitting in a chair and the mout is going non-stop. the next time I am going to ask her (politely of course) to please find something to do in a different room so I can concentrate.I am going to try to pick up a crossover Enet cable before I go over again. RadioShack? I sure hope not Best Buy. Their cables are out of site!
I promise I'll take better notes next time I go over. I am also going to update iMac to 10.2.8.
I hate this commuting to try and resolve problems, especially when there is no internet access! Travel time approaches 1/2 hour each way. ARGHHHHHH!
- Jack
Post by: jcarter on January 31, 2008, 09:10:33 PM
He would have all the answers.
Shall I email him and see if he is still around to help?
Let me know,
Jane
Post by: Gregg on January 31, 2008, 09:13:22 PM
QUOTE(Jack W @ Jan 31 2008, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hate this commuting to try and resolve problems, especially when there is no internet access! Travel time approaches 1/2 hour each way. ARGHHHHHH!
Too bad you don't live in California. I'm told that residents there think nothing of a half hour drive for lunch, or anything else for that matter. Right Richard?
Hope you have better luck next time. I couldn't do it just from those articles. There was some little quirk that had to be set first that wasn't mentioned, as I recall. It seems like there was a certain sequence you have to follow; doing things in the "right order" you might say. ...like when we closed on the land for our house before signing the contract with the builder...
Post by: Jack W on January 31, 2008, 09:21:13 PM
If you can contact kelly? That might help a lot. He might be able to confirm that I need a crossover Enet cable.
After all, the iMac is only at 10.2.0
Thanks, Jack
BTW, I modified my latest post before this one.
Post by: Paddy on January 31, 2008, 09:34:05 PM
Do you know which iMac it is? See: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/index-imac.html
If it's a 17", there was only one 17" before the 1GHz model. If it's a 15" screen, you'll need the crossover cable.
Post by: Jack W on January 31, 2008, 09:48:08 PM
Of course, I forgot to measure the screen size, and I had a tape measure with me.
I think it is the 15" model. And I think that might be a mute point anyway since the PowerBook is a G3.
Thanks, I just hope I can get a crossover Enet cable without having to order it online.
I probably won't go over again till next week, and for sure not before I get the crossover.
- Jack
Post by: Paddy on February 01, 2008, 12:26:23 AM
Post by: Gregg on February 01, 2008, 07:10:31 AM
That's funny, Jane. I saw your post below before I posted this.
:headscratch:
Post by: jcarter on February 01, 2008, 07:11:33 AM
Jane
Post by: Jack W on February 01, 2008, 12:02:47 PM
QUOTE(Gregg @ Feb 1 2008, 08:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jack, I was going to offer to send you my crossover cable, but I figured you'd want to get one faster than that. So, here's the offer anyway.... PM me with your mailing address if you'd like it.
:headscratch:
:headscratch:Gregg,
Thanks for your very generous offer!
I found them at Radio Shack, so I'm going over this weekend to pick one up.
I've got one other question:
Could I create a folder on the desktop of the PowerBook so she could just drag all the files she wants to transfer over to that folder? With correct setup of course.
- thanks, Jack
Post by: Gregg on February 01, 2008, 12:09:59 PM
Post by: krissel on February 01, 2008, 11:11:58 PM
When you are there next time, find out which PB it is as well as which iMac.
Post by: Jack W on February 02, 2008, 08:05:32 PM
I decided to "try this at home". Don't they usually advise against that?
My wife has my old 8500/180 computer running OS 8.6. So I takes my PowerBook G4 (OS X 10.4.8) down to her office and connect up the Enet cable between the 2 systems.
Well, anyway, after considerable (about 1 hour) fussin around, I was finally able to see her computer in the Go-Servers menu on the PB.
Home free? Heck no! When I went to connect to her computer, I got this message:
"file server uses an incompatible version of the AFP protocol. You can not connect to it."
Talk about a letdown!
I don't have 9.2 to load onto it, and I don't know if that would help anyway.
The main question is now: Would the PowerBook G3 OS 9.2 and iMac 15" 10.2.8 dome that my wife's friend has have compatible versions of AFP protocol???
Thanks, Jack
Post by: Gregg on February 02, 2008, 08:24:22 PM
That should be encouraging, but it's not a sure thing.
Post by: Jack W on February 02, 2008, 08:31:57 PM
QUOTE(Gregg @ Feb 2 2008, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gee, Jack, I don't know. All I know is that I was able to do file sharing with OS9.1 and 10.2.
That should be encouraging, but it's not a sure thing.
That should be encouraging, but it's not a sure thing.
That certainly is encouraging since her iMac half-dome has 10.2.0 on it. And I have the 10.2.8 Combo Updater on CD. And her PowerBook G3 is running OS 9.2.2.
Thanks for the encouragement!
I also found a CD with OS 9.1 in my collection. But I don't think I am going to muck around updating the 8500. My wife doesn't like change, and is quite contented with 8.6.
Especially since she can access the internet and mail on my PowerMac QS 2002 computer.
Thanks Gregg
Post by: krissel on February 03, 2008, 12:11:20 AM
QUOTE
Mac OS 8, Mac OS 9, and Mac OS X 10.1 to 10.3.9 support file sharing (AFP) connections over AppleTalk. However, Mac OS X versions 10.0 to 10.0.4 (more) and 10.4 and later (more) can only connect to AppleShare over TCP/IP.
If you want to connect from versions 10.1 to 10.3.9 to Mac OS 8 sharing (which is AppleTalk only), be sure to enable AppleTalk as described in steps 5 and 6 in Section II, above. Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X can both connect over TCP/IP without AppleTalk, so this step is optional in the absence of Mac OS 8.
Mac OS X 10.4 and later don't support Personal File Sharing (or other AFP) over Appletalk, though by initiating the connection from the opposite direction you could still achieve an IP connection from a Mac OS 8 computer to a sharing Mac OS X computer. The Network preference pane in Mac OS X 10.4 and later still offers the AppleTalk checkbox, but it is for browsing AppleTalk-advertised resources and zones. The subsequent connection must be over TCP/IP.
If you want to connect from versions 10.1 to 10.3.9 to Mac OS 8 sharing (which is AppleTalk only), be sure to enable AppleTalk as described in steps 5 and 6 in Section II, above. Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X can both connect over TCP/IP without AppleTalk, so this step is optional in the absence of Mac OS 8.
Mac OS X 10.4 and later don't support Personal File Sharing (or other AFP) over Appletalk, though by initiating the connection from the opposite direction you could still achieve an IP connection from a Mac OS 8 computer to a sharing Mac OS X computer. The Network preference pane in Mac OS X 10.4 and later still offers the AppleTalk checkbox, but it is for browsing AppleTalk-advertised resources and zones. The subsequent connection must be over TCP/IP.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106461
Post by: Jack W on February 03, 2008, 10:49:51 AM
QUOTE(krissel @ Feb 3 2008, 01:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The differences between 10.4 and 8 are much more than 9.2.2 and 10.2.8. The following gives some idea of the disparity between OS versions. You probably will have compatible AFPs in her Macs.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106461
QUOTE
Mac OS 8, Mac OS 9, and Mac OS X 10.1 to 10.3.9 support file sharing (AFP) connections over AppleTalk. However, Mac OS X versions 10.0 to 10.0.4 (more) and 10.4 and later (more) can only connect to AppleShare over TCP/IP.
If you want to connect from versions 10.1 to 10.3.9 to Mac OS 8 sharing (which is AppleTalk only), be sure to enable AppleTalk as described in steps 5 and 6 in Section II, above. Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X can both connect over TCP/IP without AppleTalk, so this step is optional in the absence of Mac OS 8.
Mac OS X 10.4 and later don't support Personal File Sharing (or other AFP) over Appletalk, though by initiating the connection from the opposite direction you could still achieve an IP connection from a Mac OS 8 computer to a sharing Mac OS X computer. The Network preference pane in Mac OS X 10.4 and later still offers the AppleTalk checkbox, but it is for browsing AppleTalk-advertised resources and zones. The subsequent connection must be over TCP/IP.
If you want to connect from versions 10.1 to 10.3.9 to Mac OS 8 sharing (which is AppleTalk only), be sure to enable AppleTalk as described in steps 5 and 6 in Section II, above. Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X can both connect over TCP/IP without AppleTalk, so this step is optional in the absence of Mac OS 8.
Mac OS X 10.4 and later don't support Personal File Sharing (or other AFP) over Appletalk, though by initiating the connection from the opposite direction you could still achieve an IP connection from a Mac OS 8 computer to a sharing Mac OS X computer. The Network preference pane in Mac OS X 10.4 and later still offers the AppleTalk checkbox, but it is for browsing AppleTalk-advertised resources and zones. The subsequent connection must be over TCP/IP.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106461
Thanks, Kimmer
This information is extremely helpful, and gives me additional hope that I will have success on the other systems.
Yet another question for future reference: Is there any way to force the connections on the OS 8.6 to be TCP/IP with Appletalk turned off? (Whoops, I see my answer above). I'll play with that at some other time.
I'll be going upp to Macedonia to the PB-iMac scenario later this week. I'll keep you all posted.
- Jack
Post by: Gregg on February 03, 2008, 01:47:07 PM
QUOTE(Jack W @ Feb 3 2008, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks, Krimmsserl
Post by: Jack W on February 03, 2008, 04:45:37 PM
Thanks Krissel, Sorry about the flub.
Boy, Gregg was fast to catch that wasn't he?
I sure am glad there are so many good people here to give good advice, and to correct me when my brain (?) goes to sleep!
Thanks all!!!!!! You too, Gregg!
- Jack
Post by: krissel on February 04, 2008, 10:29:28 PM
and let us know how it goes.
Post by: Jack W on February 07, 2008, 07:17:25 PM
Had the crossover Enet cable, etc., etc.
Went to the PowerBook G3:
• Turned on file sharing (required me to also turn on Appletalk).
• Made a folder called 'Transfer' on the desktop.
• Moved a bunch of files into folder for tansfer.
• Get Info on 'Transfer' — set for sharing folder and contents — anybody. Showed the sharing icon on folder.
Things going well so far. Sure.
Went to iMac dome (15" 700MHz 38 GB hard drive OS X 10.2.8)
• Clicked on G>Connect to server
NADA, Zilch — No server showed up. And I waited for a loooonnnnng while.
Went into System Preferences:
• Opened Network CP.
• Chose "Built-in Ethernet"
• Clicked on the Appetalk Tab
Appletalk options are grayed out and box to left of "Make Appletalk active" is not checked.
HELP, I am getting sooooooo frustrated.
2 questions:
• How can I make Appletalk active on the iMac?
• Or how can I force the PowerBook G3 (OS 9.2.2) to talk TCP/IP to the Enet port, and how do I get the Enet address of the PB?
OK, so that's three questions. Sorry about that!
All help and suggestions are welcome. Hey, keep it clean! This is a family site.
Thanks, Jack
Post by: Gregg on February 07, 2008, 09:07:11 PM
Post by: Jack W on February 08, 2008, 03:20:58 PM
Today, I couldn't even get it through an Ethernet hub. — NADA The hub lights would not even light up for either computer.
So I had my PCMCIA adapter with a 1 GB SD card.
Loaded it into the PowerBook.
Copied the stuff to be transferred to it.
Then hooked my Edge card reader to the iMac and loaded the files on like a champ.
I also booted the iMac from my external FW hard drive.
And was able to run DiskUtility and do a repair on her recalcitrant MacHD drive.
Showed the errors that I got yesterday while using the OS 4.2 install disk.
But this time, it showed repairing and it actually did!
Rebooted from the internal and did the permissions repair thingy and all was well.
So her internal drive is now in great shape.
This does not take care of her for future transferring.
But, I talked her into buying Tiger (available from the best Mac shop in our area — Quadstar Digital Guidance).
I have to buy that spotty OS Leopard, but they will burn a DVD of Tiger. Then I have both!!!!
I also convinced her to buy an external FW disk and SuperDuper! so I can teach her how to do good backups.
She will then convert over completely to the iMac. She'll probably still use the PB on occasion.
I can go over every 1-2 months to transfer new files.
As they say: "It's not IF your disk will go belly up, it's WHEN" !
Thanks to Gregg and Krissel (hey, I got it right this time!) for trying your best to help me on this ordeal.
I really appreciate the help and suggestions!
Happy times are here again!
Do I sound as joyous as I feel?
- Jack
Post by: Gregg on February 08, 2008, 09:22:39 PM
I'm not sure how happy you feel but if those smilies are any indication, it's pretty good!
Post by: krissel on February 09, 2008, 04:41:48 AM
It would probably be worth it to get her a FW PCMCIA card for the PB. She can then copy files to the new external drive and then over to the iMac. She can also boot the PB from the external FW using XPostFacto.
I have the earlier version of this one (was only $18 when I got it) and works fine with my Wallstreet.
http://www.mac-pro.com/s.nl/it.A/id.2781/.f
Others:
http://www.mac-pro.com/s.nl/it.A/id.1023/.f
http://www.clubmac.com/clubmac/shop/detail~dpno~428942.asp
Just email them to get confirmation that any will work with her PB. Also suggest whatever external drive you get is powered by AC and not just relying on bus power.
Post by: Jack W on February 09, 2008, 10:09:08 AM
Thanks for those links!!!!
The first one was for Mac-Pro sales. But I noticed it's order number led of with OWC :light-bulb:
Mac-Pro had it for $48.77.
So I checked OWC — same exact thing for $24.49 including shipping!!!
Needless to say, I ordered one! Sounds like the perfect companion to go with the OWC Mercury Elite drive I ordered from OWC last night.
OWC is the sales place for Mac lovers and rates right up there with SuperDuper! and GraphicConverter on the software side.
again! You are definitely the new kelly of TeeEss! 
No more !!!- Jack
P.S. How do you dismount the drive from the PB after copying the files to it?
Drag it to the trash? She might feel funny about doing that.
Post by: krissel on February 09, 2008, 10:58:42 AM
Yup, that's the one.
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20Wor...uting/PCMCIA2P/
In fact I purchased mine originally a few years ago from OWC so it must be the same or a fresh model cause mine doesn't have the little grippers on the side. Otherwise it looks exactly like the pic, same label. When I got it I was so pleased with how well it worked that I immediately ordered a second one for my Mom's Lombard. Glad they still had them.
If you have a drive connected to it you eject the drive like any other external, by dragging the icon to the trash. To eject the card itself you do the same if you are running OS 9 as the card puts an icon on the desktop. In system X you usually have an eject option in the menubar for the card. If for some reason it doesn't eject there is a pin hole for the infamous paperclip eject method.
If this is a Wallstreet there are actually two PCMCIA slots, one on top of the other. Be careful you don't put the card in on a slant so it is partially in both slots. I have the FW card and a USB card in mine, stacked, and leave them in all the time. I do vaguely remember having a hard time ejecting a card (I think it was a Compact Flash adapter) and having to use the paperclip and rebooting to get it to recognize it. But that was about 6 years ago and the details are fuzzy...
Post by: Jack W on February 10, 2008, 11:18:17 AM
iMac 700MHz PowerPC 7441 (G4):iMac G4/700 (Flat Panel)
The FW drive I ordered for the iMac is 160GB.
Everymac.com states that the max drive supported by this iMac is 128MB.
Does this also apply to external FW drives?
Even if I initialize it with my QS 2002 into three partitions (all overkill) as follows:
• MacHD Backup 40GB
• Transfer 10GB (for transferring files with the PowerBook G3
• Old Files (~50GB) for long term storage
• Spare (Remainder ~50GB) for future use.
I would scale these down if the iMac has the same 128GB limitation on the fw drive.
PowerBook G3 Wallstreet (I'm not sure which model it is 233 - 250 - or 292)
And regards using the PCMCIA card I ordered that you suggested:
If the external has 4 partitions, do all show up on the OS 9.2.2 desktop, like they do on Tiger?
If so, all is cool.
, Jack
Post by: krissel on February 11, 2008, 12:48:02 AM
Partitions are a personal thing. I used to have many partitions on my drives but started running into space problems with the newer OS that tend to grow exponentially. I tend to use fewer and larger ones now. In your case since the main drive is only 40G having much larger partitions would only be necessary if she were going to store large files like movies or tons of audio which I don't think is the case.
Yes, all partitions will show as separate icons on the desktop.
Here's how to tell the Wallstreets apart:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=24604
Post by: Jack W on February 11, 2008, 08:40:31 AM
The PB is definitely a member of the M4753 family (PowerBook G3 Series).
The expansion bay holding the optical drive is on the right side toward the front.
No firewire or USB ports.
I'll check when I go over there later this week.
Thanks for the info on firewire drives under OS 9.
I am going to do some pre-checking on my PowerBook G4 under OS 9 when the PCMCIA card arrives this week.
The order for the firewire drive and PCMCIA card already have a UPS number from OWC.
I really like that company!
- Jack
Post by: Jack W on February 15, 2008, 07:25:28 PM
Good news! I finally got the transfer process locked down.
Forget Ethernet! Too darned complicated and trouble prone.
krissel offered the key clue — purchase a PCMCIA firewire card for the PowerBook.
We had already decided to purchase a backup firewire drive for her.
So now it was a simple matter of developing the right strategy to get it all to work:
1) Insert PCMCIA fw adapter in PowerBook
2) Boot PB and wait for it to put the icon on the desktop for the PCMCIA card. This is critical!
3) Connect fw cable between PB and fw drive and turn on fw drive
4) FW icons appear on desktop! Magic!
5) Drag files to be transferred to the 'Transfer' partition on the fw drive
6) Dismount the fw icons by dragging to the trash. (critical)
7) Disconnect the fw cable
8) Shut down PB
Then, on the iMac:
1) Start up iMac if not already on with fw icons showing on the desktop
2) If fw icons don't show up on desktop, power off fw and power back on. Icons should now show up.
3) Open 'Transfer' partition and copy files over.
4) Dismount fw icons. (Critical)
5) Power off fw drive.
I probably have too many steps in there, but it works for now!
This could have been much easier if the PB was a newer model running OS X.
Then the PB could have been connected via firewire mode and mounted directly on the iMac desktop.
But this is a PB G3 Wallstreet sans fw and running OS 9.
Thanks to all who offered suggestions, and especially to krissel for giving that clue about the PCMCIA FW card. ($20)
WOW!
Thanks again, Jack