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Title: Robot gives Half Service - gas and go
Post by: Gregg on February 05, 2008, 08:34:53 PM
Full service; ah, those were the days! Maybe we'll get there again someday, and this might be the first step. I'd sure like to see it in action!
Title: Robot gives Half Service - gas and go
Post by: krissel on February 06, 2008, 02:40:35 AM
Well, if you lived in NJ you would get full service at prices cheaper than self-serve. Proves that the rest of the country is being taken for a ride.  yes.gif


No nasty comments about living in NJ...  wink.gif
Title: Robot gives Half Service - gas and go
Post by: Gregg on February 06, 2008, 08:46:38 AM
Full service! What exit? wink2.gif
Title: Robot gives Half Service - gas and go
Post by: gunug on February 06, 2008, 11:25:12 AM
One of my earliest memories, after Okinawa at age 2-4, was going to a full-service station and having a team of three men cleaning the windows and checking everything out on the car.  After having watched the robot video I think I really don't have the patience to wait for the robot to do it!
Title: Robot gives Half Service - gas and go
Post by: Xairbusdriver on February 06, 2008, 12:01:12 PM
AFAIK, Oregon still requires an attendant to pump the gas. Don't remember it being any cheaper/expensive as anywhere else, though. I think they claimed it was for better safety. Kept some blondes from driving off with the hose or something like that...tease.gif
Title: Robot gives Half Service - gas and go
Post by: Gregg on February 06, 2008, 02:17:35 PM
A law to keep blondes from being hosed: What'll they think of next? wink.gif blonde.gif
Title: Robot gives Half Service - gas and go
Post by: krissel on February 07, 2008, 12:22:22 AM
QUOTE(Gregg @ Feb 6 2008, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Full service! What exit? wink2.gif



All exits.  toothgrin.gif


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In both New Jersey and Oregon, it is legal for customers to pump their own diesel (although not every station permits diesel customers to do so; truck stops typically do)


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Motorists occasionally pump petrol into a diesel car by accident. The converse is almost impossible because diesel pumps have a large nozzle (15/16 inches) which does not fit the (13/16 inches) filler. However, it is possible and does happen occasionally. Diesel in a petrol engine however — while creating large amounts of smoke — does not normally cause permanent damage if it is drained once the mistake is realised. Even a litre of petrol added to the tank of a modern diesel car can cause irreversible damage to the injection pump and other components through a lack of lubrication. In some cases, the car has to be scrapped because the cost of repairs exceeds its value. The issue is not clear-cut as older diesels using completely mechanical injection can tolerate some gasoline — which has historically been used to "thin" diesel fuel in winter.


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Oregon's Department of Environmental Quality has also ordered a ban on self-service gasoline due to inexperienced pumpers being a significant source of groundwater and air pollution. Oregon's state fire marshal has also ordered a ban on self-service gasoline. Today, these states enforce the law because of the rapid increase of drive-offs[citation needed], where people fill up their car and drive away without paying for gas.


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Mandatory full-service is partly why NJ gas prices are so much cheaper -- the stations save so much on insurance (because "unskilled" gas-pumping drivers are far more dangerous than the highly trained employees) that it more than offsets the minimum-wage attendants. Because insurance costs are spread across all the stations, this offset only works if ALL the stations (or at least a sizeable majority) have full-service, which is why it doesn't work on a station-by-station basis in other states.


Our state tax is low as well so that has an effect on gas prices. But even taking that into account, we still have relatively cheap gas at full service compared to other states.  smile.gif
Title: Robot gives Half Service - gas and go
Post by: Gregg on February 07, 2008, 12:05:59 PM
I haven't seen a full service pump around here in years!

I'm not so sure about the "highly trained" "minimum-wage attendants" however. I was once one of them, when in high school. I did not receive any safety training, just "here's the pump, there's the gas cap". Unless they have requirements now....
Title: Robot gives Half Service - gas and go
Post by: krissel on February 08, 2008, 08:22:53 PM
Yeah, that "highly trained" was a bit of a laugh.  I happened to stop for gas the other day when a new guy was being trained. Someone apparently forgot to tell him that he could start pumping gas for another car while the first one was being filled. He just stood there and looked at the nozzle waiting for the pump to shut off. Finally the owner came out, clued him in and apologized to me for having to wait.

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Title: Robot gives Half Service - gas and go
Post by: Gregg on February 08, 2008, 09:09:47 PM
Just think, you have the potential of being that lucky driver who gets charged for another car's half a tank when yours was running on fumes and filled up. Of course, the driver who gets your charge will have enough "fumes" to make up the other half of a tank... laugh.gif multitask.gif