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Archives => 2003 => Topic started by: Bill on February 09, 2003, 10:39:00 AM
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The other night I was looking for a site that showed which country favors what type of alcohol drinks.
(yeah bored that night)
Found a few through goggle etc yet most were - try MINE,cus it's the best - type of sites.
Forgot to save one link ... grrrr ... that explained why 'many' countries do not allow alcohol consumed let alone in their country.
Considering TS now has members all over the globe.
Just out of curiosity I'm wondering if they can post which is the favorite alcohol drink in their country.
OR why it is not allowed in their country.
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I think the most popular is vodka in Sweden, or "brännvin" which is made of another grain, but is very similar to vodka.
In Sweden we have to buy alcohol (spirit, wine and strong beer) in special stores, this is to keep the alcohol consumption lower. Compared to countries like for instance Denmark and France it does make a diffrence, alcohol related diseases is a lot less than in those two european countries.
There is a debate about letting wine and beer free in food stores, especially since Sweden now belongs to the European Union. However there's still many Swedes that does not agree and want to keep it the way it is, since it *does* keep the Swedes healthier from alcohol related diseases.
/Petra
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Vodka is well liked here, too, Petra.
Each state has it's own liquor laws here. For instance, Indiana allows beer sales in covenience stores, but I've never bought a cold six pack in one. Only in liquor stores, which also sell distilled spirits. And there are no liquor, neither distilled or beer on Sundays.
I remember one time, in Kentucky, that one could not purchase milk but could buy beer on Sundays. (Read Blue Laws and Bartleby's
America, being a homogenous mixture does not have, to my knowledge, a "national drink". Kentucky and Tennesse make a case for bourbon, California makes a case for wine and there are parts of most states making a case for "corn likker" though.
Florida-not having a state income tax, relies heavily on the taxes and regulates quite lightly as to hours, statewide, leaving it up to the municipality, and heavily in other areas, particularly bottle sizes, and instate shipping.
Strange liquor laws and then there are the story 1 story 2 about bar patrons being arrested for public intoxication.
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Here in Wisconsin, I find some of these restictions amusing.
I can buy any type of alcoholic beverage at the corner gas station (as well as the grocery store, the corner bar or yes even a liquor store).
I can buy it any day of the week. Each community differs slightly. Here in the La Crosse/Onalalaska area, all hard liquor (wine included) sales are prohibited between 9 pm and 6 am. Malt beverages (such as beer and most wine coolers can be sold for carryout until midnight.
Any alcoholic beverage can be sold and consumed in a bar until 2:30 a.m bars may reopen for business at 6:00 am.
The only true liquor store in the area does its business by selling fine wines etc... otherwise nobody would bother to go there, since anything else is available at the Grocery store or gas station.
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Yesterday, when I was young (Jr High School), my dad had a tavern.
A tavern is bigger than a bar, but smaller than a night club. The Iowa liguor laws would only allow him to sell beer. If a guy wanted a drink, he had to go to the state run liquor store and buy a whole bottle.
Dad bought whole cases and sold hard drinks anyway. He was caught and fined several times but there was always a couple of cases of Four Roses whiskey in our closet at home.
Can't speak for the rest of the state, but four roses was the drink of choice in our corner of the world.
OT....I used to clean the bar and fill the beer coolers every morning before school. I was paid $4 a week but picked up enough from the floor to buy me an old 1950 Ford eventually. I had it 3 months and totaled it....
The Iowa speed limit at the time was "under control" and I adherred strictly to that.....until a bald eagle tire blew.
It was green >sigh<
[ 02-09-2003, 06:51 PM: Message edited by: snuffysbluff ]
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This is what we should have done with Alcolhol years ago. Burp! OH, Scuz me. I don't Dwink
http://www.runet.edu/~wkovarik/papers/fuel.html
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Bored eh? Here's more info than you could ever have needed to send you to sleep...
Hoever, this bit explains why so many people here are being driven to drink (although it seems we still have it easy compared with you, Petra):
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The level of duty in Britain is now out of step with many other European countries, according to figures produced by the British Beer & Pub Association. It claims that £1.49 in tax is imposed on a standard bottle of wine in Sweden, £1.16p in Britain, but 1.5p in France. No duty is charged in Portugal, Luxembourg, Italy, Greece, Germany and Austria. The tax on a pint of beer is 34p in Britain, but 3p in Spain. The tax on a 70cl bottle of spirits also varies: in Sweden it is £10.27, in Britain £5.48 and in Italy £1.11.
For comparison, the GBP is about $1.60 at present, so our penny is 1.6 cents (I worked that out all by myself )
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Interesting information:
The Tennessee county where Jack Daniels is made:
IS DRY!
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WOW! Between one or two of Jennies links and Highmacs,glad I've never been into alcohol. Some of that information I read almost could make one to-drink.!.
Never realized how much the taxes alone runs the tab up.
Seems that some countries just plain say no period.
Bet there's a lot of under-the-cuff sales going on n those countries though.After all,that is the nature of human behavior plus greed.Hey if we can't have it,then I'm going to find a way to get it and make some money!
Back on the cost factor.
How could anyone afford a fine bottle of whatever?
I know I'd lock it up in a undisclosed location.Save it for someone very special and only then.
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The more I read about Sweden and the cost.
Guess this isn't going to happen very soon ...

will it Petra.?.
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And Jack Daniels is not burbon and doesn't have that word on the label. It's Tennessee Whiskey.
Burbon is made in Kentucky (or maybe in only certain counties that might also be outside of Ky., according to one definition i found).
Burbon is also the USA's only unique spirit.
In general though in the US, whiskey is considered "rye," the most popular brand being Seagram's, which is of course Canadian. Canadian is another way to describe that spirit.
Rye has dropped in popularity quite a bit over the years.
Scotch is only made Scotland.
Irish whiskey is that country's equivalent.
I dont know offhand of any other whiskey type drinks.
It seems the brown types of whiskies are very particular about their naming and marketing world-wide. Clear spirits seem to know no such restrictions.
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Snuff. I just barely remember the little Books you used to have to use at the Liquor Store.
I remember when they made the transition from State Liquor Store only to grocery stores.
They thought it was a big deal at the time.
Apparently a lot of people in this country drink a lot of Beer. (Plain old American Beer).
This country's contribution to Liquor is probably The Cocktail.
http://www.cocktail.com/
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Should i really explain about Belgium?
THE beer country in the world, actually, i can't recall any drink being prohibited.
We just like to party it seems
There are 1547 beers it seems
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I'm not into alcohol that much, even though I enjoy a drink on occasion...
But I do recall visiting the Jack Daniels distillery in '76 and it is indeed located in a dry county.
Our tour guide told us that at one time they gave tour participants little inhalers like what you use when someone faints. The idea was that you could break the inhaler and experience the aroma of the whiskey.
Unfortunately, some people were breaking the inhalers and imbibing the minute amount of whiskey they contained. That ended the inhaler give-away real fast!
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Mayo.
I had a friend of mine go to the JD distillery back in the early seventies also.
I remember him telling about those inhalers. <gr>
He also said they (some guide) kept asking "if you have any questions.Ask." during the walk through.
The guide pointed towards him and did the old "if you..."
He was really getting tired of the "If you ...",so he said Yeah I do. Who played second base in 1962 for the New york Jets? <gr>
Not only silence hit but once the shock faded, half the group said Say What!?! What Team!?! Then laughter.
Guess the guide never asked the old question again.
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MB, I don't suppose you have a lot of T-shirts like these in Belgium do you?
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Well Bill down here south of the frost line, folks begin to get into tropical blends, like Tequila or Rums. Welcome to Margaritaville
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In Germany it's definately beer. I even daresay that we consume more beer than you guys in Belgium, Mrious (I'm not sure if that's something to be proud of, though...).
We have over 5000 beer brands, over 1,200 breweries, and consume an average of 130 litres each year (110 million hectolitres in total) and lots of websites dedicated to beer (otherwise I couldn't have told those numbers).
Personally, I prefer cocktails, though.
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I always found it curious that Canadians, living in an arguably coooold climate, would have such a taste for beer, but they do.
On trips back to the old family farm in NS, it was interesting to see the lines formed at the local Province owned liquor outlet on a Satuday morning.
The idea of having to stand in line to get yer booze in Boston wouldda' resulted in another tea party. As I recall the drink of choice then was Canadian Club or Segrams 7 whiskey (for the hardcore) and Narragansett beer for the tightwads; none of which could be purchased on a Sunday, unless you went to a bar/tavern/pub/lounge/restaurant or church bingo game.
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Originally posted by Spartacus:
In Germany it's definately beer. I even daresay that we consume more beer than you guys in Belgium, Mrious
Actually, i wanted to add that Spartacus
Saying Germany beats us in drinking volume, but that's cause Germany is muchhhh bigger than Belgium
Belgium really has the most beers i think
Hahahaha, Bill
Well, i really did saw that t-shirt somewhere (think it got to me by mail a long time ago).
The best t-shirt i ever saw, was on a festival ground, it said "if assholes could fly, this would be an airfield", hahaha
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Just got back from our place up in Lake George and on the way back we always stop in a small outpost by the name of Glens Falls - which is about a 100 miles from anywhere but we have a great source for German Wines there. I can't figure out how the Germans can - grow grapes - ferment process and bottle them - cork and label them - and ship them to America to be marked-up for retail value and still sell a 750ml bottle of the finest wines from the Mosel and Rhine for under $3.00 a bottle. Having said that, I would not pass on a "neat" Finlandia Vodka, Thorne Scotch or Jack Daniels Bourbon.
He's a real life experience - (talk about diversity in drinking laws in America). While visiting my father in Tulsa, Oklahoma in the late 1980's - he offered to take me out to his local 'watering hole'. Upon arrival he signaled the bar-keep to "bring his bolttle with two glasses" (you have to purchase a whole bottle for them to store). Thinking this procedure as strange and a brief query he informed me about the crazy city drinking ordinance. The law in place at the time stated that you could drink beer only until 12:00 midnight - - - but you could drink hard liquor until 3:00am. I was puzzled at this logic. Someone explained to me that back in the early 1900's, at the height of the 'oil-boom'' the oil-well-owners wanted to insure that the oil-riggers would be at work on time in the morning - and since they could only afford beer, they shut them off early - leaving the bar open to the more affluent as long as they like. As far as I know, this law is still on the books to this day.
[ 02-16-2003, 02:16 PM: Message edited by: neokm ]