Post by: ADSR on May 11, 2008, 09:18:06 PM
Always problem whith directory corruption on my internal back up drive, (there's two new WD inside)
Ran Rember memory test ...the available ram in thest was not equal to the real ram inside , so i remove one chip and the test was ok...the number match.
Untill now no more Kernel panic , ......but after reformating the second (back up internal drive) and using SD to clone i just ran DW a few hours later on it and got this problem....
Could it be a bad disk or...? ??
Booting on the slave and running DW on the master ...things are ok
Don't know how to get out of that
Thanks
GR
Post by: krissel on May 12, 2008, 02:28:37 AM
Or is it the directory problem that says it is too severe to be replaced...?
You didn't put that other RAM chip back in did you?
Post by: ADSR on May 12, 2008, 05:51:30 AM
And it's the "too severe to be replaced" window whith DW
Don't know what to do else..???
GR
Post by: ClayEM on May 12, 2008, 07:29:07 AM
Then afterwards DW can rebuild them.
Post by: ADSR on May 12, 2008, 10:30:43 AM
Wich one to trust
Thanks
GR
Post by: krissel on May 13, 2008, 02:23:18 AM
When the new RAM arrives try running for a while with only it in place (temporarily remove the one that is in there now). Start with a fresh clone of the 'good' system and run for a week to see if you get the bad report again from DW. If not, then you know that the present RAM is also flakey.
If it still shows in DW as bad and TTPro as OK, then I would put both chips in and ignore the report unless you actually have problems with the computer. Quite frankly I haven't run DW for months or maybe a year, can't remember.
Post by: ADSR on May 15, 2008, 07:23:42 AM
Got an external 250 gb (5 45gb partitions) FW drive where i back up the fresh system (a month ago already..!!)
Can't boot on it maybe about the 120 gb limit
... , got a firewire card but maybe not the good one ...?Changed the motu card to another slot.... the driver is the latest... (don't removed yet...maybe later cause i'ts the sound out and i have to repatch )
but got another kernel panic , seems always hapenning whith Firefox and quicktime , gonna try to update quicktime i'm actually at 7.0...
Usually get a window after restart reportig the crash ....don't get it now, where could i find it?
The strange thing also is that the corruption happens only on the second( new ) internal drive
the boot drive is ok...
Hope to find the solution soon...
Thanks
GR
Post by: krissel on May 16, 2008, 04:16:59 AM
You can go into Utilities/Console and read the crash and other logs.
Post by: ADSR on May 16, 2008, 05:48:55 AM
Update yersteday Quicktime, java, security update to the latest....
A lot of things to read in Console
...don' t really understand this stuff,after crash reporter in which chapter and what should i look to get some more infos...?
Among the reading found
ROM ndrv for ATY,Rage128Pd is too old (0xb6246498) could this be part of the problem..?
Thanks very much Krissel
GR
Post by: Paddy on May 16, 2008, 07:28:24 AM
Any discussions I found in forums were not resolved.
Post by: ADSR on May 16, 2008, 09:10:34 AM
Found his for the ATI...is this the right thing to install.?
Thanks
GR
Post by: krissel on May 17, 2008, 04:05:52 AM
As best I can see this is the latest version of their drivers although it states "retail update":
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/mac/mac...-3x-radeon.html
Apple sends you to AMD and then following the Mac>10.4>radeon you get the above.
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/driv...eondrivers.html
Actually the Tiger install should have the kexts needed for proper usage.
http://lowendmac.com/mail/0801mb/0102.html#6
Open System Profiler and go down to Software/Extensions. Once it opens see what ATI driver is loaded and what it says in the box below.
(Just to note I have a Radeon 8500 installed and the proper extension is loading. I also have extensions in my System/Library/Extensions for the 128. Much like those in the lowendmac link article. Check to see if you also have those in your system folder.)
Post by: ADSR on May 17, 2008, 04:53:41 AM
Open System Profiler and go down to Software/Extensions. Once it opens see what ATI driver is loaded and what it says in the box below.
That's what i got..
ATIRage128 :
Version : 1.4.4
Dernière modification : 26/03/05 23:29
Chaîne des informations : ATIRage128 1.4.4.2 (3166)
Emplacement : /System/Library/Extensions/ATIRage128.kext
Version de kext : 4.0.4
Adresse de chargement : 0x819000
Valide : Oui
Authentique : Oui
Dépendances : Satisfaites
Intégrité : Correcte
From what i read it seems ok... should i try to update...?
Thanks
GR
Post by: ADSR on May 17, 2008, 09:38:04 PM
A few moments ago was always testing whith DW from an external firewire drive and my 2 internals were found bad by it ....than i try to change start up to another external drive and got "you can' log at this time, push enter and got the infinite spinning wheel .... shut down the DA, unplug all the external firewire and restart.
Now DW found the drive scanned later good
ok to replace....don't understand what happens, it's about a month of testing , changing drives, formating ,reinstalling etc to get something clean whith no success...maybe i must change the computer?What do you suggest
?Thanks for your help
GR
Post by: Paddy on May 17, 2008, 10:15:12 PM
What sort of results do you get if you test the internal drives when booted from the DW CD? And which version of DW are you using - I'm afraid at this point, I've forgotten.
Also - back to that Motu card; which one are you using? I've seen reports (VersionTracker etc.) that the PCI 324 card is problematic - one person reported persistent kernel panics and finally upgraded to the 424 card and has had no issues since. So...could be that it's the card. Can you take the card out for a while and see how things go? If your problems disappear, I think you will have your answer.
Post by: ADSR on May 18, 2008, 06:03:03 AM
QUOTE(Paddy @ May 18 2008, 05:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok...wait a minute here...have you been running DiskWarrior from the Firewire drives? I don't know if that is a factor here, but it might be. I've never done that - only from one internal drive to another, or (much more commonly) from the DiskWarrior CD.
The cd is so long to boot...from Alsoft:
If you have another drive (such as an external FireWire drive or an iPod with FireWire) you could install Mac OS X (the version which came with your computer or higher, at least Mac OS X 10.3.9) on that drive and then start from it. Install DiskWarrior on that drive’s “Utilities” folder, (which is inside the “Applications” folder) and run DiskWarrior from there.
What sort of results do you get if you test the internal drives when booted from the DW CD? And which version of DW are you using - I'm afraid at this point, I've forgotten.
I'm using 4.0..maybe should upgrade to 4.1 ?
Also - back to that Motu card; which one are you using? I've seen reports (VersionTracker etc.) that the PCI 324 card is problematic - one person reported persistent kernel panics and finally upgraded to the 424 card and has had no issues since. So...could be that it's the card. Can you take the card out for a while and see how things go? If your problems disappear, I think you will have your answer.
The cd is so long to boot...from Alsoft:
If you have another drive (such as an external FireWire drive or an iPod with FireWire) you could install Mac OS X (the version which came with your computer or higher, at least Mac OS X 10.3.9) on that drive and then start from it. Install DiskWarrior on that drive’s “Utilities” folder, (which is inside the “Applications” folder) and run DiskWarrior from there.
What sort of results do you get if you test the internal drives when booted from the DW CD? And which version of DW are you using - I'm afraid at this point, I've forgotten.
I'm using 4.0..maybe should upgrade to 4.1 ?
Also - back to that Motu card; which one are you using? I've seen reports (VersionTracker etc.) that the PCI 324 card is problematic - one person reported persistent kernel panics and finally upgraded to the 424 card and has had no issues since. So...could be that it's the card. Can you take the card out for a while and see how things go? If your problems disappear, I think you will have your answer.
I had removed all the card before i posted yersteday(motu and firewire) ...and gonna go to some more testing..
GR
Post by: krissel on May 19, 2008, 04:05:11 AM
If you can't seem to come to any conclusions with all this testing then just wait until you actually have a problem with running the computer. Ignore what DW says.
If and when you have a real problem then take note of what is running, what externals you have connected and what the crash reports say. Wish there was a better answer.
Post by: ADSR on May 19, 2008, 05:49:22 AM
QUOTE(krissel @ May 19 2008, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As to the System Profiler report: It seems the driver you have is probably OK. You could try updating on one partition and run from it for a while. Just don't clone to your backup until you determine if it is running without problems.
If you can't seem to come to any conclusions with all this testing then just wait until you actually have a problem with running the computer. Ignore what DW says.
Just wanna get sure that all the back ups i've done are good and not corrupted....
the re install of all the things was a real pain....
If and when you have a real problem then take note of what is running, what externals you have connected and what the crash reports say. Wish there was a better answer.
If you can't seem to come to any conclusions with all this testing then just wait until you actually have a problem with running the computer. Ignore what DW says.
Just wanna get sure that all the back ups i've done are good and not corrupted....
the re install of all the things was a real pain....
If and when you have a real problem then take note of what is running, what externals you have connected and what the crash reports say. Wish there was a better answer.
Have not done all the testing but untill now (have disable spolight for all the drives, maybe that was part of the problem whith DW ? ) it seems ok , hope it gonna last
Gonna put back one at a time ,the Motu , firewire card and ram and see what happens
Thanks for all the replys...it helps beeing not too
GR