Post by: jcarter on May 18, 2008, 06:37:30 AM
I can go over to my dentist's office, but that is a pain.
I think I remember somewhere here a while ago, there was reference to a site that could do this for us?
But I cant remember it, nor can my classmates. The ones I got with Google, arent the same ones that we used before.
Thanks,
Jane
Post by: ClayEM on May 18, 2008, 07:46:02 AM
QUOTE(jcarter @ May 18 2008, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My classmates need a site that you can test your pages on IE, because we dont have IE for Mac any more.
I can go over to my dentist's office, but that is a pain.
Jane
I can go over to my dentist's office, but that is a pain.
Jane
IE 5.2.3 still is available for Macs.
You can get git here: http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Internet-Util...-Explorer.shtml
Clay
Post by: jcarter on May 18, 2008, 08:33:50 AM
I will pass the link right on to my classmates. I have it, but it always crashed, but tried it this morning and it worked OK.
Jane
Post by: Mayo on May 18, 2008, 11:31:11 AM
Post by: swhitset on May 18, 2008, 12:37:17 PM
Steve
Post by: jcarter on May 18, 2008, 01:40:12 PM
My husband and brother do, but they arent receptive to me running any Windows stuff on their machines. So I am OK for now.
Jane
Post by: Mrious_be on May 18, 2008, 03:20:09 PM
No need to do anything else than installing the latest Safari on your system!
Install Safari 3.1.1 and activate the "Develop" menu (to be activated in the Preferences/Advanced tab).
Now, open the page you want to test in IE.xx and select the "Develop" menu, then go to "User Agent" and select "Internet Explorer 5.x.x Mac" (or any other browser architecture for that matters).
There you go, Safari now acts like Internet Explorer
It works.
I once had to use a website from work.
That website is growing in age now and all modern browsers screw the site up completely (which is probably the reason that we still use an older Explorer version at work... on windows).
By changing the browsers behavior to Explorer the website showed as "it should be"
Worth giving a go Jane.
Post by: swhitset on May 18, 2008, 03:32:39 PM
None of this is really the point here though, The original question dealt with finding a way to test a page in IE on a Mac. Changing your User Agent does not accomplish this. While using IE 5.xx is a start, I have to emphasize the fact that it is so outdated that I really question the validity of any test done using it. If you don't want to, or can't run Windows on your mac, I would suggest getting access to a cheap PC.
Steve
Post by: jcarter on May 18, 2008, 03:40:48 PM
I donated my old PC to the highschool.
So I guess I could get a cheap one, but Im running out of space in here. But I really dont care that much, as my pages are pretty plain. But my classmates, this particular one, is a whiz at making pages and she needs IE.
I will just hang out with my old outdated IE for the time being,
BUT, isnt this a great excuse to buy a lovely new Intel Mac with a monster screen?!!!!!?
Hey, what an idea, my husband asked me the same thing this morning.
Here I am again, do I want or do I need,,,want want want!
Thanks,
Jane
Post by: swhitset on May 18, 2008, 03:46:47 PM
Steve
Post by: Xairbusdriver on May 18, 2008, 04:15:35 PM
However, to throw another wrench into the monkey works, what version of IE does your instructor want your site(s) tested with? IE on the Mac was better at standards compliance than its equivalent on a PC. But now that there are several newer version of it for PCs you still need to know which one is needed. Every new version does things slightly differently in different areas. Just because your site is 'perfect' on one version doesn't mean it will be so on another!
That's why there are sites like the one Mayo mentioned. For a fee, they will make screen shots of your home page on several different browsers, and not just IE. For additional fees, they will do the same for additional pages. Some sites will do a single page for a sometimes smaller number of browsers for free. Try Googling 'website testing sites' and get a list.
Ask your instructor what the 'standard' is to be used for whether a site displays 'correctly' or not. You may even want to suggest that all pages should pass as valid on both the <W3C> and the <WDG> validater sites. There are also site that will check/validate your CSS.
Post by: jcarter on May 18, 2008, 05:01:41 PM
I have checked my old pages and they are OK, but we are getting into more complex stuff now.
Ive found that most browsers do a pretty good job of it nowadays. And I guess the DW makes the code pretty good for them all too.
But thats upcoming, will be interesting.
Thanks,
Jane
Post by: Mayo on May 18, 2008, 05:19:34 PM
Post by: Paddy on May 19, 2008, 11:10:13 PM
What he/she is no doubt looking for is testing on IE 6 and 7 - for Windows. And if you really want to to have even more fun, there's always IE 8 beta: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/...e8/default.mspx
(I don't think that shows up at Browsershots though!
)On your Mac, browsershots.org, as I pointed out in the Smalldog thread and Mayo has pointed out here, is your best bet. Free, not too slow if you just check one or two browsers at a time and it doesn't take up any real estate! Otherwise, it's either an Intel Mac with Parallels or Bootcamp...or a cheap PC. I used to have a cheap PC (a used HP running XP Pro) for testing purposes until I got my MacBook Pro. Depends on your available space and available budget - or how serious you want to be about the testing. BTW - the used PC route is definitely cheaper - you can get XP Pro capable PCs on eBay for $100-150 or so. Remember - it doesn't have to be anything special, it just has to run the most recent versions of IE.
Post by: jcarter on May 20, 2008, 06:55:47 AM
If I could get a PC that somehow I could hook into one of these iMac monitors, it would be good, but I think thats impossible.
Jane
Oh, neat banner! Is that a capibara or just a large squirrel that eats your bird food? Big enough to eat! Lets see our puppy chase that thing!
Post by: Xairbusdriver on May 23, 2008, 11:17:16 PM
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am thinking of a new MacTel at some point
That won't really do any god at seeing what a site looks like on a PC unless you also use BootCamp or one of the PC emulators plus buying and installing some version of Windows. Of course, if yo do that, you should also make sure the Windows Firewall is ON and purchase some good anti-virus software for the Windows side of things. Then download as many versions of IE as you can as well as all the other PC versions of any browser you can think of. That's a pretty expensive and time consuming way to test a site occasionally. A free testing site like browsershot sounds a lot easier and you then let them worry about Windows and it's 'features!' 
Post by: jcarter on May 24, 2008, 06:28:03 AM
Though it would be nice to have a brand new 24 inch iMac. That will wait till fall, as there is no real point of me getting a new Mac this time of year.
Next Oct or Nov would be better.
Browershot is sure good enough for me.
Though there are 2 amazing Photoshop plug-ins that I would love to have, and some other filters too.
A fractal program that some of my classmates use is,
http://www.xenodream.com/
But that takes me back to my old problem, the difference between need and want,,,,,,,
Jane