Post by: bellbram on June 17, 2008, 09:19:01 AM
I've had a chat with Epsom who say "Not a printer fault. If Preview shows only four pages that's all the printer can print. Must be an AW problem".
Oddly enough, the printer will only print a portion of the fourth page. Preview shows 30 lines on that page but the printer will only print 28 lines although it prints all lines on previous pages.
It's hopeless trying to speak to Apple, so here I am asking the TS brains if anyone has a solution.
Maybe I should transfer the entire spreadsheet to Excel or Mariner Calc.
Post by: chriskleeman on June 17, 2008, 09:57:07 AM
Have you tried to copy and paste into a new AW document? Perhaps the file you're working on has become corrupted.
Also, exporting or copying and pasting to Excel might not be a bad idea, just to see if it prints out correctly.
And which computer is this file on?
I haven't tried to use AW in 10.4.11, so I don't know if that's creating some inherent problem here as well. Perhaps a more knowledgeable TS'er will be along shortly.
HTH,
Chris K
Post by: jb on June 17, 2008, 10:37:02 AM
jb
Post by: bellbram on June 17, 2008, 11:15:42 AM
The file is on a G5 Tower using 10.4.11
jb: Will look the AW forum out of interest, but have decided to use Excel for any future spreadsheets.
Many thanks to you both for your input.
Post by: Gregg on June 17, 2008, 12:52:17 PM
I know you can limit the number of rows or columns in an AW SS file, but then you can't input data beyond the limits you've established, because cells beyond the limits just don't show up until you increase them again.
Post by: pendragon on June 17, 2008, 03:38:44 PM
Now that all is again right with the world, waddya suppose would happen were you to cut & paste the data, from your new Excel document, to a new AW document?
I just wonder if the issue is with the data/settings or with AW.
Post by: krissel on June 18, 2008, 04:10:31 AM
QUOTE
Most often, saving the document as an AppleWokrs 5 then opening the newly created document with AppleWorks 629 get rid of this kind of oddity because:
• it removes the embedded print record
• it rebuilds the internal pointers between components of the doc.
• it removes the embedded print record
• it rebuilds the internal pointers between components of the doc.
Post by: bellbram on June 18, 2008, 12:11:24 PM
Harv: You know the answer 'cos we've 'chatted'
Kris: Thanks for the forum quote — but I'll stiock with Excel for spreadsheetsfrom now on
Post by: Gregg on June 18, 2008, 12:43:04 PM
I'll warn you that I've had "issues" with it. Some of the problems do seem to be more pronounced when I have Leopard's "Spaces" active. You won't have that added aggravation, but you might notice that Excel ignores you from time to time. I'll be typing a way, using the touch-type-but-I-like-to-look-at-the-keyboard method, and when I look up at the screen, only the first character I typed, or nothing at all is displayed. Then I have to click in the bar above the spreadsheet to try again, rather than just being able to type after clicking a cell.
Post by: Mayo on June 18, 2008, 01:14:29 PM
Yesterday I downloaded and opened an Excel document in Numbers and it looked great. (I didn't try to print it.)
MacWorld Compares Excel 2008 to Numbers '08
And then there is always the NeoOffice option...
Post by: bellbram on June 18, 2008, 01:52:25 PM
Mayo: Thanks for the tip. I'll have a look at the iWork free trial.
Post by: Mayo on June 18, 2008, 02:44:50 PM
In case you don't know this already... Pages can translate only relatively recent AW versions (Boo Apple!). Numbers may also be limited in this way so if you get a dialog box stating that your spreadsheet cannot be opened you will know why...
I am moving from AW to Pages; I use AW for older docs that I don't want to bother copying-and-pasting into a Pages doc. But I hardly ever need to access those older docs anyway, and Pages is the future while AppleWorks is officially "dead." I keep NeoOffice handy if I should ever have to deal with a M$ doc that iWork cannot handle.
Post by: bellbram on June 18, 2008, 03:07:19 PM
Post by: Mayo on June 18, 2008, 05:04:18 PM
As long as AW is compatible with OS X you will be O.K., but I think that it is inevitable that at some point AW will cease to function properly (and its interface is sooo pre-OS X!) so Sooner or Later you will probably be leaving AppleWorks behind... Only you can decide when that will happen.
At any rate, here is the Ars Technica review of iWork '08. It should clarify some of the differences between AW and iWorks for you.
Post by: bellbram on June 19, 2008, 02:06:36 AM
I downloaded the trial version of iWorks 08. Thought it had a vaguely familiar look. "Where have I seen that before?" thought I.
Opened my Applications folder and, there, nestling between iWeb and Jumpcut, was iWork 08!! I see I downloaded it in February
.
Must have tucked it away to look at some time and promptly forgot about it! Oh dear. And I thought I was a young octogenarian!
Guess I'll be meeting Mr Alzheimer next.
I've now had a good look at it and am impressed. Think it will spell the end of AW for my future word-processing.
Trouble is I'm a sucker for anything new and it's not the first time I've downloaded a prog, got called away by she-who-must-be-obeyed to do some minor chore, then promptly forgot about my recent download.
I know the TS motto is "There's no such thing as a stupid question", but to my chagrin I find there IS such a thing as a stupid TeeEsser.
Thanks Mayo, for your kind persistence.
Post by: Gregg on June 19, 2008, 06:56:24 AM
I'm trying to remember it that's true...
Post by: bellbram on June 19, 2008, 08:04:35 AM
But now I'm wondering if I'll ever get to grips with Pages. Was trying to do a small thing. Couldn't figure how, so downloaded and opened the User Guide. All 246 pages of it. 246 pages!!. I'll be in my nineties before I've got the hang of it.
Eventually got to the pages I needed for wrapping text around an object (110 & 111). Faithfully followed the instructions but couldn't get it to work. Maybe someone familiar with pages (Mayo?) can solve the problem.
Let me explain: I inserted a graphic on to a text page, positioned where I wanted it. Opened "Wrap" from the format bar and highlighted all the appropriate symbols to get the text to wrap around the graphic. BUT when I return to the text page, the highlights on the "Wrap" Inspector disappear unless I click on the graphic. As soon as I try to add text it refuses to wrap and just jumps from above the graphic to below it.
Makes me want to
Am sure there's a simple solution but I haven't found it.
Post by: Mayo on June 19, 2008, 10:29:47 AM
Post by: bellbram on June 19, 2008, 11:16:54 AM
Post by: RNKIII on June 19, 2008, 01:22:43 PM
I know that xABD and RPH are both 'experts' on Pages and would probably be more than happy to assist.... I know that RHP has done the 'wrap' thing for a newsletter he regularly creates...
Bob K. rnkiii
Post by: bellbram on June 19, 2008, 03:09:28 PM
Post by: RHPConsult on June 19, 2008, 05:03:22 PM
) . . . and doing so . .. uhmmm . . . immensely.Essentially, everything I know about Pages '08 (excepting the MOST intuitive elementary actions) I learned from the clear eye and steady hand of Capt. Airbusdriver.
I've now used it for six issues of the newsletter which I publish for the Friends of the Millbrae Library. And each time I use it I genuinely love it . . . more.
But, like you, Peter, there were more than a few bumps in that road that abolutely drive me krazy, until ABD swooped in (well, ambled) with the solution(s). Of course, I'm much younger than are you, so perhaps that made a difference! (What? A couple of years doesn't count?}
So, that's what the Ho, Ho, Ho's are all about that you're hearing, wafting in from the Colonies!
• • • •
When I am inserting a cropped jpeg into a story, I choose (in the WRAP) subsection of Inspector the following alternatives:
- Object Placement: (Floating doesn't move w/text)
- Object Causes Wrap: Select 2d button from the left = wrap text around object
- Text Fit: choose right-hand icon and insert text size + alpha value
It's very forgiving.
I told Jim after putting together the Summer edition in < an hour, that I thought that compared rather favorably with day-and-a-half "required" for the first edition I did with Pages '06 a year and a half or so ago.
Post by: bellbram on June 20, 2008, 04:03:04 AM
As I write this it's around 02:00 your time, so I expect you're in the Land of Nod (or at a night club. I know what you youngsters are like) so I'll try a 'chat' some time later, after you've showered and shaved.
LATER
Just dawned on me what was wrong. I was doing a test piece to see how 'wrapping' worked in Pages 08. My piece of 'test' was a continuous series of M's with no breaks at all. That just wouldn't wrap. Perhaps not surprisingly. When I copy/pasted a full page of proper text from another file, the text wrapped perfectly around the graphic.
So problem solved. The stupid thing is, I have a recollection of having exactly the same problem a couple of years ago doing a test wrap using Mariner Write. I recall that I filled the page with M's which wouldn't wrap and only got it to work properly by breaking up the continuous sentence of M's. But that was two years ago and my memory span is not what it was.
Anyway, thanks again
Post by: Highmac on June 20, 2008, 06:30:12 AM
And I've learned something - never knew where Lorem Ipsum originated. Apparently Cicero wrote it in 45BC....
And, confession time, I once did a search in TeeEss over a problem I had and found I'd posted the same problem two years earlier... but at least I didn't have to ask again since the same answer worked ....
Post by: bellbram on June 20, 2008, 07:10:57 AM
Vale!
Petrius
Post by: RHPConsult on June 20, 2008, 10:18:46 AM
My prediction, Peter: The more you use Pages, the more you'll be amazed at its ease and usefulness. As a layout tool.
Reflecting on my experience with AppleWorks, Publisher and other similar apps I've used in my dim and dusty Mac-past, I'm simply delighted with Pages. If I were a Rocket-Scientist (or Rocket-Surgeon, as ABD is inclined to observe) I might have some faults to find, but it seems to me they've done a great job. Certainly '08 was an discernible improvement over '06, IMO.
My only "complaint" – applicable to most Mac apps – there soo much "stuff" buried inside, one wonders if it will ever all be revealed? What comes relatively easy (if you can have ABD peering over your shoulder on occasion) are the most frequent tools and tweaks. Bravo!
I'm not ready to give up the simplicity of MarinerWrite for WP-ing, but to do layout tasks with ease, for results that at least hint at some creativity (not mine, but Apple's), is most satisfying.
PS: For variety, Neil, here's a line for testing copy: The mind as actual is immediately phenomenal and hence not substantial.
Which, of course, is one of my problems!
Post by: krissel on June 21, 2008, 10:31:50 PM
QUOTE(Highmac @ Jun 20 2008, 07:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And, confession time, I once did a search in TeeEss over a problem I had and found I'd posted the same problem two years earlier... but at least I didn't have to ask again since the same answer worked ....
I can do better than that.
Recently I searched Google to find the answer to something and noticed one of the sites listed was actually a thread on TS. So naturally I clicked on it to see what it was and indeed a post had the response I needed. Of course I was curious to see who had left the answer....
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...Would you believe it was me?
Post by: RHPConsult on June 22, 2008, 03:03:07 AM
And I'll bet it was just the other side of brilliant
Post by: krissel on June 23, 2008, 03:35:47 AM
