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Title: New "Nation" in the Shetland Islands!
Post by: gunug on June 24, 2008, 10:46:31 AM
There is a guy on one of the Shetland Islands who thinks he's a nation unto himself:

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Hill, 65, has lived in the Shetland Islands on the edge of the Atlantic since 2001, when his boat capsized there during an unsuccessful attempted to circumnavigate Britain.

He is Forvik's only resident, and his home is a tent on the storm-battered island. He says on his website that he plans to create Forvik's own currency -- the "gulde" -- print his own stamps and raise his own flag.

"There will be no income tax, VAT (value added tax), council tax, corporation tax, or any of the other taxes instituted by the British government," Hill wrote.

Hill's claim dates back to a 15th century arrangement between the Norwegian King Christian and King James III of Scotland when the Shetland Islands were effectively pawned to King James in lieu of a marriage dowry.

According to Hill's studies of the history of the island, in 1669 King Charles II re-confirmed Shetland's status at the time of the pawning, meaning the islands remained directly answerable to the crown -- represented today by the Queen.

"The monarchs and governments of Scotland, and Great Britain and the United Kingdom have for many years assumed powers over these islands of Shetland to which they were not entitled," he wrote.

"By declaring Forvik a crown dependency I am simply re-establishing the correct legal relationship between this part of Shetland and the crown.

Hill said he had written to the Queen offering his services as "steward" and recognising her as head of state.

"I also invite anyone from any country in the world, who supports these aims, namely to become free of liars, thieves and tyrants in government, to become a citizen of Forvik," he added.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080621/od_uk_...nd_independence

I'm not sure a government can exist without liars, thieves and tyrants; well at least I've never heard of one! smile.gif

I also like his nickname in this other article:

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Mr Hill, originally from Manningtree, Essex, settled on the island after his failed solo attempt in 2001 to circumnavigate Britain in a home-made boat - earning the 'Captain Calamity' name - capsized west of the Shetland islands, the UK's most northerly island group.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/215...nd-islands.html
Title: New "Nation" in the Shetland Islands!
Post by: Gregg on June 24, 2008, 11:31:22 AM
Is this the same guy that tried to declare an abandoned oil drilling platform sovereign a few years ago? Sounds like the island needs an asylum.
Title: New "Nation" in the Shetland Islands!
Post by: gunug on June 24, 2008, 12:10:01 PM
Same idea; different guy!  I think that other idea actually kind of worked or is still in progress!  I can remember a favorite book I read as a teenager was about a family that proved the island they had in between Canada and the US belonged to neither!
Title: New "Nation" in the Shetland Islands!
Post by: Frances144 on June 24, 2008, 01:00:49 PM
Sadly, Shetland attracts more than its fair share of nutters - maybe that's why I am here!!!

No one is taking him very seriously.

Good luck to him, I say.
Title: New "Nation" in the Shetland Islands!
Post by: Highmac on June 24, 2008, 01:07:03 PM
Shetland is best UK island to retire to says Saga magazine (bottom half of page)......  whistling.gif

Apparently midwinter can be bleak and very cold. This comes as a surprise to me. Can you confirm that Frances?  toothgrin.gif
Title: New "Nation" in the Shetland Islands!
Post by: Frances144 on June 24, 2008, 01:53:50 PM
Its f***ing miserable, tis true - but you just light the fire and bring out the single malt for a peerie dram!
Title: New "Nation" in the Shetland Islands!
Post by: Paddy on June 25, 2008, 11:41:56 AM
You can take out citizenship in Forvik for a mere £120 (2 Gulde in Forvik currency):

http://shetlandconversation.squarespace.com/forvik/

So...if he lives in a tent on an otherwise uninhabited island, presumably without any electrical service, water etc., how does he manage a web site and answer email? tongue.gif
Title: New "Nation" in the Shetland Islands!
Post by: Frances144 on June 25, 2008, 11:53:22 AM
Good point!  I will ask my friends!
Title: New "Nation" in the Shetland Islands!
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 25, 2008, 05:29:38 PM
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how does he manage a web site and answer email?
Solar, wind and/or ocean wave powered satellite, of course! Paddy, that's the trouble with you guys on the other side of the great lakes, you don't think 'outside the box' enough! tongue.gif smile.gif
Title: New "Nation" in the Shetland Islands!
Post by: Gregg on June 26, 2008, 07:13:11 AM
....or wireless.

It's a small area. bump.gif

QUOTE(Frances144 @ Jun 25 2008, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hopefully with the power of my wifi BluTooth wireless network thingy, I should be able to locate my work from 800 miles away!