Post by: kbeartx on November 07, 2008, 02:40:00 PM
KB
Post by: Gregg on November 07, 2008, 03:10:42 PM
Used to work with a guy, an older gentleman who loved hyphens. He even put 'em in 2 ounce modifiers.
Post by: kbeartx on November 07, 2008, 04:14:53 PM
QUOTE(Gregg @ Nov 7 2008, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...ignore the capital (ol?) letter on "your" in the middle of a sentence.
I noticed that and chose to let it slide...
QUOTE(Gregg @ Nov 7 2008, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... an older gentleman who loved hyphens. He even put 'em in 2 ounce modifiers.
My understanding of the 'rule' is this:
if you use numbers, such as 2 ounce, no hyphen; but if you use words, as in two-ounce, they take a hyphen.
And it's only when the expression is used to modify another word: he took two ounces of medicine; the medicine was prescribed in two-ounce doses.
KB
TGP 
Post by: Gregg on November 07, 2008, 06:48:51 PM
Post by: Jack W on November 07, 2008, 07:09:42 PM
I liked it!
I especially thought the old-style Apple logo was a touch of class.
Ignore the pundits.
- Jack
Post by: Texas Mac Man on November 07, 2008, 07:23:27 PM
(Photoshop doesn't have spell check.)
Post by: Gregg on November 07, 2008, 08:35:33 PM
Spell check is a crutch. It ain't fool-proof. See.
Post by: dboh on November 08, 2008, 07:11:35 AM
QUOTE(kbeartx @ Nov 7 2008, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
also, 'virus-free' is a compound modifier, and so should get a hyphen.
KB
KB
When compound modifiers follow what they're modifying, they don't require a hyphen.
Post by: Gregg on November 08, 2008, 08:53:07 AM
QUOTE(dboh @ Nov 8 2008, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When compound modifiers follow what they're modifying, they don't require a hyphen.
Are you then saying that when they precede the word being modified, they do require a hyphen? This is getting too complicated! Maybe we should submit it as a 5th Grade grammar question to Fox Network.
Post by: dboh on November 08, 2008, 01:29:53 PM
QUOTE(Gregg @ Nov 8 2008, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(dboh @ Nov 8 2008, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When compound modifiers follow what they're modifying, they don't require a hyphen.
Are you then saying that when they precede the word being modified, they do require a hyphen? This is getting too complicated! Maybe we should submit it as a 5th Grade grammar question to Fox Network.
I didn't learn this until after college myself!
It would be virus-free computing but computing virus free. Compound modifiers are hyphenated when they precede what they modify(unless they're really familiar terms like high school) and unless it would read too ambiguously unhyphenated if they come after what they modify. An easier example might be "the well-read book" vs. "the book well read."
Of course, compounds with "ly" are never hyphenated: "the barely read book"
Post by: gunug on November 08, 2008, 02:09:54 PM
Post by: kimmer on November 08, 2008, 02:18:13 PM
Post by: Highmac on November 09, 2008, 04:15:33 AM
QUOTE(Gregg @ Nov 8 2008, 02:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It ain't fool-proof. See.
Someone once said "Nothing is foolproof - never underestimate the ingenuity of fools".
NB: 'Foolproof' simply because that's the way we use the word over here...
Post by: Gregg on November 09, 2008, 02:15:49 PM
QUOTE(Highmac @ Nov 9 2008, 04:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Gregg @ Nov 8 2008, 02:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It ain't fool-proof. See.
Someone once said "Nothing is foolproof - never underestimate the ingenuity of fools".
So true. The same can be said of crooks and con artists. Rules and regulations will be broken to serve some nefarious end. That's why we will always need new laws.
QUOTE
NB: ...
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Post by: krissel on November 10, 2008, 03:59:02 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nota_bene
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 10, 2008, 02:12:50 PM
I suspect our Britsh cousins will be along shortly with an appropriate 'upbraiding' soon. I'm a little shocked to find no such posting by today...Post by: krissel on November 11, 2008, 03:58:33 AM
For a long time I though that he was trying to be politically correct by avoiding adding "No Bull.." to the missives. Finally someone else used it in a different context and I decided to look it up.
Post by: Highmac on November 11, 2008, 04:54:24 AM
Post by: Gregg on November 11, 2008, 06:58:55 AM
QUOTE(Highmac @ Nov 11 2008, 04:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... it might just be us older ones. The ones who were around when the Romans ruled the country
B.C.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 11, 2008, 11:56:43 AM
Post by: kbeartx on November 11, 2008, 02:01:53 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Nov 11 2008, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... the problem was outside our "bailiwick."
While aware of the word and its general meaning, I had never looked into its derivation:
bail·i·wick (bā'lə-wĭk') Pronunciation Key noun.
- A person's specific area of interest, skill, or authority. See Synonyms at field.
- The office or district of a bailiff.
KB
Post by: Gregg on November 11, 2008, 04:48:40 PM
QUOTE(kbeartx @ Nov 11 2008, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Nov 11 2008, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... the problem was outside our "bailiwick."
While aware of the word and its general meaning, I had never looked into its derivation...
Similar to what we recently learned about "riding" in another thread...
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 14, 2008, 07:48:52 PM
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Only great minds can read this
This is weird, but interesting!
fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht
I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to
cheearchrs at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the
ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer
be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it
whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey
lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas
tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it
Just don't let KB see this! This is weird, but interesting!
fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht
I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to
cheearchrs at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the
ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer
be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it
whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey
lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas
tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it
Post by: kimmer on November 14, 2008, 08:50:06 PM
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Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey
lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
And this is why we shouldn't write in all CAPS, which force the brain (if you have one)
to raed ervey lteter by istlef, instead of the wrod as a wlohe.
Post by: dboh on November 15, 2008, 07:02:57 AM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Nov 14 2008, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey
lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
I'm probably the only person this happens to, but I've noticed as I've gotten older, I'm not as good as I used to be at recognizing words by their shapes. When I'm whipping through the newspaper, I sometimes have to go back and reread because I've "misread" a word. Especially similar words like "that" and "than." It's very annoying.
Post by: kbeartx on November 17, 2008, 12:56:19 PM
QUOTE(Texas Mac Man @ Nov 7 2008, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(Photoshop doesn't have spell check.)
That's why someone invented proofreading...
KB
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 17, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
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Photoshop doesn't have spell check.
That's why I still have <Excalibur> installed as a Startup item. Not that I always use it, of course... 