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Title: Services Menu I
Post by: Gregg on November 13, 2008, 12:24:18 PM
If you've read the December Macworld, perhaps you caught the "Secrets" article, OS X's Most Underused Shortcut. It's all about the Services menu, thus the topic title. (more on that in a minute) The article calls the Services menu a "little known and even more rarely used feature".

You find it in the application's menu; Safari or Firefox, etc. I don't know if it appears in other browsers, and the article reveals that Office won't let you use the Services selections.

It's pretty cool. Select some text, then go to Safari/Firefox/ Services and pick from the options there. You can look up the word in Dictionary, open Stickies and create one with the selected text automagically, search Google for the selected word(s), etc.

I couldn't get the Chinese Text Converter to do anything, but I assume that's because I don't have the necessary font installed. Another puzzle is the Speech option. Start Speaking Text didn't work for me either. I tried to find some setting that needed to be switched on, but never got it to work. I'll have to play with it some more this weekend or sometime.

Check it out! And check out the Services Menu II topic....

oops.gif I meant to put both topics in the Technical forum!
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: RNKIII on November 13, 2008, 12:45:54 PM
Move done!!


Bob K  rnkiii
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: Gregg on November 13, 2008, 12:48:59 PM
QUOTE(RNKIII @ Nov 13 2008, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Move done!!

That was fast! Before my lunch hour ends/ended, even!
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 13, 2008, 05:26:13 PM
Isn't that so nice of M$! Some developers even add items to that menu!! What a cocept, use what Apple provides instead of reinventing the wheel! Evenake yuor app more useful!

In most any app, just place the cusor I over a word at press cntrl-d. That should automatically open Dictionery with you word inserted. If that didn't work try Option-d, I'm not at my Mac, so I can't confirm. NOTE: There is no need to actually select/highlight the word, just 'hover' over it.

Of course, if you don't like using the keyboard, you can 'right-click' and get the special menu thing.
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: Gregg on November 13, 2008, 08:28:07 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Nov 13 2008, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In most any app, just place the cusor I over a word at press cntrl-d. That should automatically open Dictionery with you word inserted.

That didn't work in Safari, Word, or Excel.
However, Command-D in Word opens the Format/Font dialog box. That does not work in Excel, as I wish it would.

Apparently the Services menu isn't as big of a secret as Macworld makes it out to be. I had never explored it before.... in case that wasn't obvious.
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: krissel on November 14, 2008, 05:12:42 AM
Speak text works for me under Camino as did a zillion other things that showed up in the drop down. I found a whole bunch of applications I didn't even know I had installed. rolleyes.gif

To make snippets of text I just highlight and drag to the desktop. That is the one feature that you can't do in Opera which keeps me from using that browser.  dry.gif
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: Gregg on November 14, 2008, 06:52:55 AM
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I found a whole bunch of applications I didn't even know I had installed.


Sorry. or... You're welcome! (depending on your point of view)

I, OTOH, have an application installed that I cannot find. laugh.gif
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 14, 2008, 04:05:26 PM
My bad! Try cntrl-command-d with the cursor over a word. I know it works in Safari and Mail. Probably only Cocoa or just Apple Apps. Sorry. Sekund mizteaks uf tha yeer! wallbash.gif
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: kimmer on November 14, 2008, 10:11:11 PM
Services ... love it but mostly hate it.

"Search with Google" works in many aps that I have ... but every time it launches Safari instead of my default browser (FF). I find this really annoying and so I have stopped using Services because I can't seem to customize the features I'd like to use.
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 15, 2008, 01:41:57 PM
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every time it launches Safari instead of my default browser (FF)
Maybe that's because in Safari's Prefs, you still have Safari set as the Default browser?
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: kimmer on November 15, 2008, 02:18:52 PM
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every time it launches Safari instead of my default browser (FF)
Maybe that's because in Safari's Prefs, you still have Safari set as the Default browser?

Hmmm ... good point.

Okay, just looked and it shows FF as my default browser.

I think it's an Apple feature, not a bug. wink.gif
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 15, 2008, 04:53:19 PM
It may very well be that the 'service' is hard wired/coded to open Safari, when available. dntknw.gif I used to have an app/Prefernce Panel that allowed one to set whatever app one wanted to handle any file suffix. It was also used to designate 'default' apps. I don't seem to find it now and it may not have worked on Leopard and I trashed it (so I didn't have to 'look back!'). biggrin.gif When the computer doesn't do what I tell it or something that frustrates me pc.gif, I find it helps to let out a short, primal scream. Hurt.gif It may upset your cat and I don't recommend it in a library. blush2.gif
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: RHPConsult on November 15, 2008, 10:09:47 PM
I really enjoy MacWorld's weekly "hints" by e-mail, with active links to its web site.

Since I'm now ALL Leopard – better late than never – I've been learning a lot about the Tiger/Leopard distinctions, in practice.

Pogue's Missing Manual on Leopard is truly fascinating. I was telling George and RNKIII today about cleaning up my Dock, while preserving therein both frequently-used and less-used but "favorite" apps.

As follows . . .[list=1]


Others, over the years in these posts have recommended 3d party apps to set up quick access to various applications.

As here .. .
[attachment=1105:FavApps.jpg]


This seems to me to be a neat (OEM) one.
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: kimmer on November 16, 2008, 03:31:19 AM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Nov 15 2008, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I used to have an app/Prefernce Panel that allowed one to set whatever app one wanted to handle any file suffix. It was also used to designate 'default' apps. I don't seem to find it now and it may not have worked on Leopard and I trashed it (so I didn't have to 'look back!'). biggrin.gif

That would have been Application Enhancer. I know because you got me to use it to solve some prob I was having a few years ago. It now works under 10.5, but I don't know if it runs on an IntelMac.

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Pogue's Missing Manual on Leopard is truly fascinating.

Now wait just a minute. You mean Pogue gets paid to put this idea in his book? Not fair! He *OWES* me moola. I've been doing this for years. Made my own "favorites" folder back when we could first make aliases. Moved my "favorites" to my dock when I first went all fancy with OSX. So, it was my intellectual property before he sold it. Boy, oh, boy. What's this world coming to, anyhow. wink.gif  toothgrin.gif
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: RHPConsult on November 16, 2008, 08:44:40 AM
But, Kimmer, was it this fast, this colorful, this f-a-n-c-y ?
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: kimmer on November 16, 2008, 01:17:43 PM
It's as fast, colorful and f-a-n-c-y as my present system. toothgrin.gif
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 16, 2008, 10:01:58 PM
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That would have been Application Enhancer.
Nope, it was definitely not from Unsanity. And they seem to be rather out of business as far as Leopard goes. Maybe a conflict with the built-in "Application Enhancers" folder in Leopard. They had some good stuff but I grew paranoid about their use of undocumented (unauthorized) hooks to the OS.

The Preference Panel I used was basically a list of every known suffix found on any computer in the known universe to which you could use the default suggested app or type in your own choice. I don't have a Tiger system left to look at...and it may not have made the leap-on-ward. wallbash.gif
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: kimmer on November 16, 2008, 10:54:26 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Nov 16 2008, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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That would have been Application Enhancer.
Nope, it was definitely not from Unsanity.

Okay, I'll believe you; but you are the fella that got me to use Application Enhancer. How come you didn't tell me about all the unauthorized stuff? wink.gif

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The Preference Panel I used was basically a list of every known suffix found on any computer in the known universe to which you could use the default suggested app or type in your own choice.

Sounds cool, but I don't know what it is.
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 17, 2008, 01:58:51 PM
Ah! Here it is <RCDefaultApp>. Still not sure if it will run on Leopard.

As for using Application Enhancer upon my suggestion...the real question is, why would anyone take my advice/recommendation?! eek2.gif
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: kimmer on November 17, 2008, 06:44:47 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Nov 17 2008, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah! Here it is <RCDefaultApp>. Still not sure if it will run on Leopard.
Yeah, yeah ... I used that also. Again because you recommended it.

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As for using Application Enhancer upon my suggestion...the real question is, why would anyone take my advice/recommendation?! eek2.gif

Uhhh ... I thought you knew what you were talking about? I needed help and you were the only one who offered me any suggestions? I had a moment of insanity? laugh.gif
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 17, 2008, 09:44:59 PM
Here's the response I got from the developer just now:
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It should work fine.  There are a couple (very) minor issues, but overall it works.  At some point I need to get my long-delayed next version out...

-Carl Lindberg
Maybe I need to check it out, again! One thing I noticed that hadn't been a problem before was when I was checking the USPS web site to print labels/postage. There is a link to 'test' ones system to be sure it will work. It basically send a PDF to your machine and tries to get Arcobat to print it. But I have Safari set to display PDFs in Preview and the 'automagic' printing didn't happen. There is a very short time where Preview presents the image and its on-screen toolbar. But I'm so dense that it was gone by the time I realized what it was. I could still have printed the PDF had I just accessed Preview in time. doh.gif IMHO, simply sending a PDF file to the user would be more reliable and usable...OTOH, I've seen people who have no idea what a PDF is nor what to do with it. rolleyes.gif

BTW, like the new 'avatar!' I'll expect a similar but differently colored one in the Spring! smile.gif Oh yeah, hope your sanity returns...maybe you should leave a light in the window! tongue.gif
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: kimmer on November 19, 2008, 02:07:43 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Nov 17 2008, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OTOH, I've seen people who have no idea what a PDF is nor what to do with it. rolleyes.gif

Yeah, we have a friend who always wants the little "ads" that Mac does for the Friends as JPEG's, because she can't figure out how to convert the PDF to something usable on the library web site. Oh well. wink.gif

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BTW, like the new 'avatar!' I'll expect a similar but differently colored one in the Spring! smile.gif Oh yeah, hope your sanity returns...maybe you should leave a light in the window! tongue.gif

Thanks. It was a learning experience and took me several attempts in PSE 3 and 4 and finally back to 3 to get it to work. Flowers in Spring. Good idea. I'm working on a "winter" one right now. Having a huge prob getting my idea to be what I'm looking at in PSE.  dry.gif I'm really not that talented with graphics, but I've got ideas. Big Ideas. laugh.gif

My sanity will likely never return. It's been gone too many years. tease.gif
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 19, 2008, 04:26:12 PM
I haven't tried an animated gif in PSE 6 yet. The only way to see it 'animate' that I know of is to use the "Publish to Web" function. At the bottom right-hand side, in the 'controls' panel, there is a slider that allows you to see each layer individually, not necessarily in real time, however. I think the way I did those things is to have a separate Layer for each 'frame' of the 'movie.' When you're finished with a Layer, use command-j to make a copy of that one in a new layer. You can then 'pixel-paint' what moves in that new Layer. When finished, do the command-j thing and keep going until you're done or too tired! BTW, it may help to turn off the visibility of the previous Layer after you make the copy. OTOH, it may not, it just depends on what moves and what you want to remain fixed. I found it quite tedious and I was appreciative of some TS Admin tweaking of my current avatar. That may be a good plan; create a gif that is slightly irritating and keep it in front of talented people! wink.gif laugh.gif
Title: Services Menu I
Post by: kimmer on November 19, 2008, 05:41:24 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Nov 19 2008, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I haven't tried an animated gif in PSE 6 yet. The only way to see it 'animate' that I know of is to use the "Publish to Web" function.

That's how I've always "checked" my progress, although I sometimes go in and turn off all layers and then manually click the eyeball to turn them on - one at a time. It's a slow-mo way to see the animation.

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I think the way I did those things is to have a separate Layer for each 'frame' of the 'movie.'

Yup, layer after layer. I usually work with 2 or 3 versions of any animated graphic. One has all the basics, and then when I start linking together pieces, and as I add more pieces and parts and link those layers and on and on. It is tedious, and that's why I don't do it very often. I'm sure there's some fancy and easy way to do it all, but like I said, I have grand ideas, just no talent to match. laugh.gif