Post by: pendragon on May 18, 2003, 04:39:48 PM
For those who may have missed the fine print, DW 3.0 will not defragment (there is no PlusOptimizer).
Also, I strongly recommend one read the ReadMe and Installation instructions. What I thought a bit atypical (for example): the recommended install is to drag the DW icon to the Applications/Utilities folder, not just the Applications folder.
If it performs as previous versions have, then indeed the investment will pay a most handsome dividend.
Harv
Post by: Gary S on May 18, 2003, 04:49:04 PM
Did Alsoft email you before it came?
I'm still waiting.......
Post by: gmann on May 18, 2003, 04:50:55 PM
Post by: pendragon on May 18, 2003, 05:15:13 PM
Gmann, DW (IMNHO) has a history of repairing directories that other utilities just can't match. If the option is to suffer the directory problem, reinstall the OS, or run DW. My choice is clear. For sure it has saved my bacon more than once. After all, DW is designed and inended to reair directories not defragment (that has always been an add-on).
Harv
Post by: Gary S on May 18, 2003, 06:06:22 PM
DiskWarrior is just plain simply GOOD!
I wouldn't be without it. I've been using DW 2.1.1 on OS10.2.5 while booted into OS9.2.2
and it varies as far as the Directory graph but sometime, especially after a few big installs or a System upgrade, the Directory is sometimes 5-10% out of wack so......I like de DiskVarrior!
Post by: daffy on May 18, 2003, 08:36:41 PM
Since I got my new,new iMac 3/14, I have not been able to boot with my DW 2.1.1 disk, so am really looking forward to receiving it.
Post by: gmann on May 18, 2003, 09:34:18 PM
Having become somewhat jaded with being nickle and dimed due to upgrades I have quite buying for the forseeable future. Will DW3 or TT4 work with panther when it comes out? How about the IBM 970 cpu when it comes out this year?
I have drive10 version 1.05 and it is not adequate for 10.2.6. Am I going to pay another $70 for 1.1.4? Certainly not. I do not mean to sound so negative, but as previously stated I have become rather jaded concerning software updates.
Post by: MamaMoose on May 19, 2003, 12:50:22 AM
MamaMoose
Post by: daffy on May 19, 2003, 05:07:03 PM
...and, gmann, I agree with you & I haven't upgraded to TTPro either. I feel as tho I'm maxed out on upgrades for awhile except for DW, of course! Had to have it.
We are in that time of year here now where I'll be unplugging everything electrical during storms. I had to yesterday & last night so today am trying to play catch-up.
Post by: pendragon on May 19, 2003, 05:50:36 PM
After several attempts, I noticed that the install always failed at the point it was attempting to install Scripts. I then attempted a custom install, this time without the scripts. Success!
Alsoft bug or my machine? I dunno. But for sure the above work around gets the job done (I repeated/tested the work around 3 times). A subsequent call to Alsoft Tech Support indicated that was the first they heard of it, but that it was worthy of further checking.
Harv
Post by: MamaMoose on May 19, 2003, 06:45:07 PM
Then I ran it on my main Jaguar and that took some time until it went through thousands of files. Got a bunch of fixable problems, 95% were in the Previous Systems folder. Ran repair and replace and then I closed DW. Ther is no System startup folder but as soon as I Quit DW, it automatically restarted. After about 10 minutes watching the spinning gray hamster wheel, I interupted the restart and restarted again and I finally booted into my system.
Talked to Alsop Tech Support and they said it was slow. So, patience is the key here. As far as trying to restart after repair, I do not know what the problem is but I assume it will be fixed in the next upgrade. By the way DW 3 uses 10.2.5 a that was furnished to Alsoft by Apple.
In any case I rest easier knowing I have DW in my toolbox.
MamaMoose
Post by: pendragon on May 19, 2003, 07:59:48 PM
Re restarting, I found the solution is to hold down the Option key immediately upon restart so that I may then select the start up drive.
Another point I should clear up--I said (above) that PlusOptimizer was not included with DW 3.0. Well, that is true. But, included on the CD is DW 2.1.1 for installation on Classic. And Plus Optimizer is included as part of that install. So, if you can install DW 2.1.1, you will have (some) access to PlusOptimizer.
Harv
Post by: daffy on May 19, 2003, 08:09:53 PM
MamaMoose, I did read that if you have started up from the CD that when you have finished you should restart by choosing restart from the Apple menu. (see top of page 29 in the DW manual)..in other words, don't quit the application.
Based on your experience, I'll wait until tomorrow to run it & practice having patience which doesn't come easy to me.
Thanks for any help or tips you can give me.
Post by: pendragon on May 19, 2003, 08:27:25 PM
1. It allows for auto detection of potential problems (otherwise not available).
2. Running an installed DW is much faster than running it from the CD. Since I now have it installed on two separate drives, to use DW I now merely reboot to the other drive rather than loading the painfully slow CD.
3. If the CD drive were to become corrupt or fail, I can still run DW.
Harv
Post by: daffy on May 19, 2003, 10:26:36 PM
The auto protection you mention must be about the same as the DW Shield we had installed on OS 9. I think I will install it tomorrow on my external FW drive.
Post by: pendragon on May 20, 2003, 07:12:15 AM
At least now I know it is not my machine...or operator error!
Harv
Post by: daffy on May 20, 2003, 08:03:38 PM
MamaMoose....I now understand what you meant when you say you quit DW & it automatically restarted. Reading the instructions before running it made me think you shouldn't quit DW when finished, but that is actually the only option so all went well.
It did not seem to take me as long to run as it did you two & it repaired a bunch of stuff. I feel better & safer having DW back with me.
As a curious sidebar, I tried to boot up from my External drive which is running 10.2.3 & it would not. This is the first time I've tried to boot up in it since I went to 10.2.6 on my internal HD so don't know if that's the issue or not....or if it's the new iMac. My intention was to install & run DW from it. So I ended up starting up from the DW CD to be able to run it. It didn't take too long. I'll have to think about what to do with that ext drive. I sort of want to erase it & start over as one partition as I can't boot up from the OS9 partition anymore from my iMac. If I do that, I can use CarbonCopyCloner, can't I?
Post by: kelly on May 20, 2003, 08:41:33 PM
So you have a brand new non-OS 9.x Boot imac?
Congratulations.
You'll need as new a OS X version to Boot as came with your machine.
Yes. You can clone your drive to the external that way.
Post by: daffy on May 20, 2003, 10:06:54 PM
This week-end, I'll erase the ext drive & reformat it & then use CCC.
This'll take time, I know.
How is it I used to have more time when I was still working?
The iMac is really beautiful. 17" screen & pretty fast. Now that even Eric's Ultimate Solitaire is on OS X, I never booted into 9 anymore so that's ok.
Post by: jguti on May 20, 2003, 10:29:32 PM
I emailed DW yesterday asking them if it would work with older machines; i.e., PowerBook 190CS w/a 68040 processor, 40MB, 24MHz. The Problem resulted when I had hooked the PB to my Beige G3 to cross over an application; i. e., a driver for my Agfa Scanner. I went to the Mac site and inquired about the problem based on my situation and I was referred to the Disk Warrior site.
When I made the connection I saw twelve PB mounted HDs on my beige G3 desk top. I successfully loaded the software to the G3, but @ the expense of my PB operating system. Now all iget is the "?" floppy on my PB upon startup.
Disk Frisrt Aid won't fix the error code reads: "Problem: Invalid BTree node size 3,0" and "Disk Aid won't repair them"
Post by: themagpie on May 27, 2003, 09:01:00 PM
Margie
Post by: Bruce_F on May 27, 2003, 09:31:56 PM
Post by: jguti on May 28, 2003, 06:38:29 AM
Stay tuned!
Post by: Gary S on May 28, 2003, 08:10:43 AM
Post by: MamaMoose on May 28, 2003, 10:54:31 AM
What are your system specs? OS, Mac, RAM, hard drive size, etc. I believe DW 3 boots OS 9.2 or higher. have you tried DW 2?
MamaMoose
Post by: jguti on May 28, 2003, 11:25:37 AM
the specs for the PB are 24MHz, 40Mb Ram, OS=8.1, 750 Mb HD
spoke w/AL they gave me instructions to create a boot up floppy disk at another machine and use the floppy to get the DW CD to mount up on the PB desk top
the file name being V 2.1.1 from the LS9 folder
can't wait to get home to try this!
Post by: themagpie on May 29, 2003, 06:06:09 PM
Margie
Post by: Gary S on May 30, 2003, 02:32:57 PM
It found a few problems and ran a lot faster than 2.1.1 from OS9.2.2 on the 10.2.6 HDD.
Post by: kelly on June 06, 2003, 12:47:17 PM
http://www.macintouch.com/mosxreader10.2pt...pt70.html#jun06
Post by: jguti on June 09, 2003, 08:20:41 AM
I thought I had posted my experience regarding DW but not sure where it went???
My experience w/DW was anything but productive. I have documented proof what they had promised, both in personal notes and E-mail files. Plus doing research up & down the web on this product; I am very disappointed with the results.
I wouldn't recommend DW. It did not live up to any of its expectations and written/imlpied promises/warranties! All of my data is gone and they kindly recommended a data retrieval company to recover my data at a mere $1,600 (U.S.). I don't think so.
I am in the process of requesting a full refund, and if they refues I am entitled to three times the purchse price!