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Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on January 26, 2009, 08:22:07 PM
I buy music and find this message for some of it,
I try to put my password in, and its wrong???
And I got a mobile me account as the old dot mac one didnt work for some things, the dot mac one still works but cannot upload any more pictures to my albums.
Never got a mobile.me email either?
But why do they say that I need another password?
Ive changed it using their instructions, but still this annoying thing about my purchased songs persists.
Its not user friendly and new Mac users are quite angry with it, and I have no advice, as I cant get it solved myself and Ive been a subscriber forever. Ive got friends with this problem too?
Im not sure if I want to pay money and download any more songs if I cant play them!
Anybody else having problems with this?
I will put a screenshot in.
Jane
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: Paddy on January 26, 2009, 08:51:24 PM
Jane, when I had problems (not the same one, but something weird with passwords etc.) I just called Apple at 800-275-2273. Somehow or other, I got the help I needed. And no, it wasn't when I had a new Mac, so I'm not sure how I managed it! You can always try...

So, just so I understand this issue: your password doesn't work, and when you try to reset it, it goes to a non-existent me.com account and not to your mac.com email address?

If I recall, this wasn't all that different from the issue I was having - a Catch 22 if there ever was one.

Try calling Apple, and if that doesn't work, then try emailing them. And yes, they do deal with people who've forgotten everything too, so I'm sure they can straighten things out for you. smile.gif

http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/store/email/
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 26, 2009, 10:34:54 PM
To buy music (or anything else) via iTunes, you need either the 'magic number' on a Gift Card or have a valid credit card on record at Apple. If it has been some years since you provided that info, the card may have expired. However, the dialog, in that case, would normally have just asked you to enter the new info somewhere. But when you entered that info, you may also have used a slightly or even completely different password. I'm hoping that you still have the email confirmation that was sent at that time. But, even if you can't find that (or where you 'hid' that info!) you should be able to get help as Paddy suggested. And don't forget the secret code for getting a human at Apple Support! (SHhhh... don't let anyone else know that code posted back <here> )
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on January 27, 2009, 06:45:25 AM
Yes, everything is up to date, credit card and passwords work on all my Apple stuff......except these 2 or 3 individual songs. Odd thing about it, they were all purchased at the same time, and most of them worked just fine.
Even the others by the same artist and off the same album work!
Maybe somebody doesnt like gospel music by Pops Staples and the Staples singers, but I do and I really want that song(and the 2 others).
Great advice to call them, and I will use that number you gave me before, as I got a live humanoid right here in USA.
Maybe they can figure it out.  Perhaps if I go ahead and buy the same song over again, it might work, but I dont want to do that without knowing what the outcome will be.

And in the meantime, I will set up the mobile.me email, though I sure dont need it.
Thanks again,
Jane
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: Paddy on January 27, 2009, 07:21:05 AM
Jane, did you buy those songs recently? You could always go into the accounts part of the iTunes store, look at your purchasing history and if those songs are your most recently purchased, you can click on "report a problem" and they'll be credited to your account and removed from your iTunes library. I did that the other day when for some reason or other I got charged for the U2 single that was supposed to be free if you pre-ordered the album. Decided I wasn't about to wait to see if that amount got debited off the total album price when I got billed for the album...and the song stayed in my library, so I guess it was some sort of billing error. (??)
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on January 27, 2009, 08:19:53 AM
Hi Paddy,
Im looking for that purchasing history, I got a message that 'all songs have been purchased and downloaded', but no list of them.  Thats as far as I could get.
Im using an old version of iTunes, its 6. I wonder if thats the problem. My big speakers are on this Mac not my newer one.
I go onto the support page, and just get to a dead end.
So its time for the phone call.
Jane
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 27, 2009, 09:30:40 AM
If they claim to be downloaded, maybe a search or even a different sort selection will make them visible in iTunes. If you are getting e-mail confirmations of your purchases, it might help to have that when you call. I think you can also re-download a purchased track but I've never done it. There should be info about that in the iTunes Help pages, enter something like lost tracks or re-download in the search field. I'd do that for you but I'm on my iPhone... smile.gif
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on January 27, 2009, 10:01:28 AM
I have the email confirmation, and will call this afternoon.
Thank you for all the info, I will get to the bottom of this, though 2 or 3 dollars isnt much, its the idea that I bought a song or 2 that I want and they are unaccessable.
Jane
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on January 27, 2009, 11:33:02 AM
Gee, I learned something odd, to get to your account, you have to go back to the old email receipt, then click on a song in the body of the email. Nothing to do with iTunes until you do this, then it opens. THEN you get to your account.
So Ive turned in 2 problems with that song items. Got info that it was received, and to wait for an answer.
This is interesting, as it sure is not intuitive. But now we know how to do it with iTunes 6. Its probably a lot easier with the newer versions, well maybe.
Jane
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: Paddy on January 27, 2009, 06:01:27 PM
?

Doesn't iTunes 6 have an accounts section on the left hand side? I can't actually remember this - I looked at the screen shots I found in Google... wink.gif

Anyway, I'm just curious - why are you still using iTunes 6 as iTunes 8 runs fine under Tiger? smile.gif
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on January 27, 2009, 07:15:51 PM
Nope, no way to get into your account with 6 unless you answer/click on the emails.

Im running 6 here on this older soccar-ball Mac as I dont see any reason to upgrade it and my big speakers are here. I can play all my songs without trouble, except the 2 that I started this thread about.

And I had trouble with my iPod when I upgraded on the other Mac, yes troubles that were talked about with moving music from one computer to the other. Moving music and stuff like that can be tricky, so Ive left my stuff on this one. So I kept 6 on this one and there is no problem with the iPod.
Moving music from one computer to the other is rather stupidly set up, so I just networked them and it worked OK.  Third party apps will help with this, though I didnt need them, but did read all about how to do it.
Why must Apple make things so complex?
Jane
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 27, 2009, 08:15:18 PM
I really don't even know what version of iTunes I've got but all my email confirms have several links to check stuff like my account info, iTunes terms, iTunes FAQs, weather in Hawaii, etc. smile.gif
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: Paddy on January 27, 2009, 08:55:32 PM
Click on iTunes in the menu bar when it's running Jim..."About iTunes" - or just highlight it in the Finder. Since you're using 10.5.4, it's a good bet that you're running iTunes 8.02, and your iMac would have shipped with something more recent than 6.0.

Jane, I found an image that I'm pretty sure is of the iTunes '06 store (it was posted about a month before iTunes 7 was released):

http://www.romeo-theater.com/pressroomgrap.../rtonitunes.jpg

I know it's dark, but if you look carefully, there is an Account link on the Quick Links right hand menu, third from the top. Is that not there in your version? (I'm just puzzled, that's all....I could have sworn I've gone to my iTunes store account from within iTunes ever since I started buying music there, which was quite a while ago!)
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on January 28, 2009, 06:55:31 AM
Hi Paddy,
Mine is a bit different, the right top corner only has 'search' and 'burn disc'. Its actually version 6.0.5 (20)
Here's a screenshot.
I did get an automated response from Apple this morning but the 'solutions' were nothing like my problem.
They say they will send a personal response later today.
So I guess we are on the right track. Even when I 'find info' on each song in that album, they are all the same.
Thanks again,
Jane
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: RNKIII on January 28, 2009, 07:08:23 AM
Jane,

Think you need to 'go' to the music store portion of iTunes to see what Paddy is explaining.
From what I can tell from your screen shot you are just in 'your music' portion of iTunes.


Bob K.   rnkiii


Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on January 28, 2009, 07:18:25 AM
I do see the account in the corner when Im on the store itself, but there is nothing to click to go to the account.
At least what Ive tried so far.
I think there was another way, like just after I had purchased some songs?
Screenshot of when Im in the store itself,
Jane
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: Paddy on January 28, 2009, 07:44:04 AM
Jane, can you post a screen shot of the entire iTunes store window? The Accounts link I'm referring to is in the right hand MENU, not the top bar. It should be under the heading "Quick Links". This will help us know if we're at least looking at the same thing, since nobody else here seems to still be running iTunes 6, of if they are, they're keeping mum about it!
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: RNKIII on January 28, 2009, 07:47:34 AM
Try 'stretching' the window open farther to the right.....  pretty sure it's there. toothgrin.gif


Bob K.   rnkiii
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on January 28, 2009, 08:37:05 AM
Cant see Quick Links, nor when I stretch it out to the max, its just the same, just a bit wider columns.
Ive got version 8.0.2 on the other Mac. And on that one I have Store in the menu and View My Account.
I just leave that one signed in as I do this one.

2 years ago I was able to drag songs from one Mac to the other, and my iPod while networked. But Ive got so much music that I havent done that lately.
Jane
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 28, 2009, 08:52:23 AM
Jane, do you have any of the e-mail purchase confirmations Apple sends after buying stuff from iTunes?
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on January 28, 2009, 09:49:41 AM
Yes, that was the only way I got to my account, of all strange things.
I looked at the email and clicked on the 2 songs that were the 'problem' ones, and sent a message to Apple.
Each song was apparantly a live link.  
Still waiting for their promised 'personal' reply.
Ive not phoned them yet for an explanation, as the email might appear today.
When it does, they will probably want me to change the password, which I do not want to do, as it is the same for
my Mobile me account, everything else, and my old stuff.
jane
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on January 28, 2009, 02:14:18 PM
Good news, here is the reply I got.
I just thanked him and will go and get those two songs and more later on.
I also noticed that my dotMac email still works and that the Mobile.me email works too, though I didnt even get around to adding it to my list yet.

"Dear Jane,

I'm sorry to hear that two of the songs you purchased from the iTunes Store will not play, and repeatedly prompt  you to authorize your computer.  Since the other songs from that order play successfully, but two songs do not, I have issued 2 song credits to your account, which you can use to buy these songs again from the iTunes Store. There may have been an issue with the download of these two songs.

About iTunes Store authorization and deauthorization
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1420

If you authorize a computer and are still prompted to authorize it again, the steps in this article should help:

iTunes repeatedly prompts to authorize computer to play iTunes Store purchases
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1389

 Our support page:
http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/

Also, I understand that when you entered  your account password, that it was rejected.  If you no longer have the password for your account, you can reset it via Apple's iForgot website at:

http://iforgot.apple.com

I hope you find this information helpful, Jane.  If you have any questions or concerns with this issue, just reply to let me know and I will be happy to help.

Sincerely,

Tim
iTunes Store Customer Support"
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: RNKIII on January 28, 2009, 02:37:41 PM
All Right!!!   Apple Forever!!

Glad things are getting straightened out for you Jane.

And thanks for posting the 'extra' links provided by Apple... might come in handy for someone else.

Bob K.   rnkiii
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 28, 2009, 03:03:16 PM
QUOTE
do you have any of the e-mail purchase confirmations Apple sends after buying stuff from iTunes?
QUOTE
Yes, that was the only way I got to my account, of all strange things.
Not 'strange' at all. In fact, when I make my message html capable the only link I see near a song title, is labeled "Report problem." While you certainly had a problem, I was asking about the e-mails because you said you thought your account was messed up. Your account info is also available by using the link at the bottom of each e-mail. That where I would have started, if I thought I had an "account" problem.

But it's great to hear that you now have things under control! clap.gif

BTW, there is really nothing to "set-up" in MobileME. That is simply the new name for the old dotMac stuff. Since you already had a dotMac account when they changed last year, you will still have your ".mac" address. But you will also have a ".me" address. At least I think you do, I don't care for that term and have never changed any of my account settings or notified any of my friends about the new address. Apple's mail servers take care of all that for you. All you have to do is keep up with the yearly fees. When you get a chance, however, you should investigate what you are paying for, like 20GB of Internet space, Back to My Mac and various syncing services that you might want to use. dntknw.gif You may also notice that your subscription has a later renewal date than you might think. The change over last May was so bad (remember they came out with new iPhone software, a new iPhone, MobleMe and an OS update(I think, could have been something else) on the same day!) that Apple gave everyone an extra two months on their current subscription. smile.gif
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on January 28, 2009, 03:36:33 PM
Thank you for the info!
I did notice that my mobile me address was working, so like you say, Apple must have done the work, so I wont mess with my mail settings.

I do have many many photo albums, really old ones, on my dot Mac account, they are all still there.  So I will just leave them alone too.
The mobile me album I made is OK too, though I forget to look at them.
Jane
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on February 02, 2009, 07:47:34 PM
EEEWWW,
Tried to use my credit for those two songs, and got the message that "This version of iTunes will not work with downloading songs from the store" or something like that.

So I just gave up, I will go and buy that doggone CD in our local music store.

Why does Apple make things so frustratingly difficult?  Thats supposed to be PC stuff, If you own a Mac, this stuff shouldnt be on your plate.
Jane

Oh, I see, they want you to buy a new Mac and new software. In this failing economy, why wouldnt any company make things difficult to deal with old stuff, make the people go out and buy new. Try buying parts for an old vehicle or appliances.
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: Paddy on February 02, 2009, 10:32:45 PM
Jane, why don't you just update to iTunes 8? huh.gif

A lot cheaper to do that (free in fact) and then you're just buying the songs you want, rather than an entire CD.

As Apple adds new features to the iTunes store, they also update the iTunes software. They can only keep supporting the old software for so long...the last version of iTunes 6 came out 2.5 years ago, and iTunes 8 does work with OS 10.4, which came out a full 4 years ago now. So...I don't think they're really trying to make things difficult. This Wikipedia page says that a minimum of iTunes 6.5 is needed to use the iTunes store, but I'm not sure if it's up to date or not. What version of iTunes 6 are you currently using?
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on February 03, 2009, 07:16:39 AM
Im using 6.0.5 on this Mac, with 10.3.9. Its my communication machine, and its doing all I need(well not iTunes evidently).
The other Mac is 10.4.11 with iTunes v. 8.0.2. But the reason I dont use that one, is that my big speakers are on this machine and I run the music in the background while the other machine is doing PS Terragen and the more 'hungry' programs.

Though I have been able to move songs between them while networked.  But that sometimes is very very tricky.

I do remember that the newer iTunes versions had a glitch where it was far more difficult to just drag and drop songs between Macs, thats one reason Ive stayed with v. 6.

I wish they would just leave stuff alone and not make us upgrade constantly, if it aint broke?
But, alas, it is broke,,,,,,
Jane
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: Paddy on February 03, 2009, 07:41:52 AM
Sorry - typo on my part; it should say iTunes 6.05, not 6.5... so I guess the Wikipedia article is out of date.

I've had no difficulty dragging and dropping songs with iTunes 8 - I do it all the time. smile.gif
Title: Apple with multiple passwords?
Post by: jcarter on February 03, 2009, 07:52:49 AM
I will try later on to see if I can use the other Mac to download and just drag them over onto this one. It used to work OK, sure hope it still does. As the speakers are a different type connection and wont work on the other Mac.
Thank you, I will give it a try soon.
jane