Post by: sokukodo on January 30, 2009, 11:05:39 AM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 30, 2009, 02:51:23 PM
There is at least one other TS member folding, but she seldom makes an appearance or post here.
My heat values are in the 155° range, Graphics ~150°, internal drive 135, the rest are more like 110. Ambient air is 80.6. The upper limits for the cpu's are reported as 212! The three fans are running barely over the 1200 rpm lower limit (the cpu fan is 1387, the HD is 1397, the Optical drive is 700 (its lower limit). The app I'm using reports "CPU A Heatsink 145.4°, I'm assuming that all the processors are under one giant heat sink or that there is only one that has a temp sensor.
What kind of CPU% are you seeing from any other apps? I don't usually have anything using more than 2% except the folding routines. But the fact is, the cpus will be running near 10% all the time as folding will use whatever spare cycles are available.
Good luck in your progress! It is amazing how much faster this machine folds than my old 1GHz, PPC iMac!
Post by: sokukodo on January 30, 2009, 05:52:31 PM
Model Identifier: iMac7,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM71.007A.B03
SMC Version: 1.21f4
CPU Heatsink: 125.6F
Core 1: 143.6F
Core2: 145.4F
Graphics Processor Chip: 123.8F
Graphics Processor Heatsink: 123.8F
Graphics Processor Diode: 134.6F
Hard Drive Bay: 120.2F
Memory Controller: 127.4F
Optical Drive: 102F
Power Supply Position: 143.6F
Hard Drive: 120.2F
Wireless Module: 104.0F
Fans controlled by smcFan Control:
HDD: 4797 RPM
CPU: 3297 RPM
Optical Drive: 2526 RPM
I have 8 apps opened now, w/ none above 2% of CPU; as we speak, I have just finished my 1st WU: took about 24 hrs.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 30, 2009, 10:27:46 PM
I've got exactly the same machine except I only have 2GB RAM! Of course, the most obvious thing to check is that the air intake is clear of any dust, cat hair, paper, etc. Might as well open the RAM door and make sure no one left any sponges in there after the "operation!" But that should also assure you that there is no obvious fur balls in there.
Actually, if you compare your reported temps to mine, you'll see mine are much hotter, by at least 15° and as much as 40°. Yet my fans are barely working. The only thing you didn't mention was your ambient air temp. Mine hovers around 78. Are you, perhaps near a warm air duct? A window with direct sunlight? Sitting way too close to the machine?!!
Another possibility is that one of us has a batch of bad sensors. Their probably one of the cheapest parts of the machine. Or the fan's speed controller(s).
OK, I held two folded sheets of bond paper over the entire bottom grill for more than 10 minutes. The ambient air temp peaked at 98.6, the cores got to 179.6 and 181.4. The CPU fan was solidly above 1400 but never over 1715. The HD Fan finally got to 1430. But I still never heard them, even though I could hear the drive being used during a TimeMachine update. My head was within 10 inches of the screen during this whole time. Now my wrists are sore from holding my hands upside down and applying upward pressure to keep the grill covered!
The main thing I can deduce from the above is that the ambient air temp sensor must be right where one of my fingers was under the grill! But I think can also say that the fan sensors and controllers are working.
Maybe your fan motors don't actually have any fans on them!
I just hope you are happy, the HD Fan now seems stuck around 1430+/- 5! The CPU is down to 1410 and the cpus show 174.2°. Ambient is back to 78.8. I'm about to retire to the bed, we'll see how things are tomorrow. The ambient air will be much lower in a few hours as the thermostat is set to go down at 10pm. Good night!
Post by: sokukodo on January 31, 2009, 09:23:03 AM
Currently running a Gromacs SMP, and the temps are running at 140F, ambient 80.6F.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 31, 2009, 10:23:11 AM
If it's the one I was considering, it would have to be reset after any kind of restart but that should be no problem since that occurs only once a week here.BTW, I have an iMac AppleCare package that I'm not able to use.
If your machine is still in the one-year warranty and you don't already have AC, I'd be happy to sell it for a very reasonable price. But with the troubles you mentioned, you probably have bought that 'insurance' already!
Post by: sokukodo on January 31, 2009, 07:43:31 PM
Thx for the AC offer, but I already have it.
Post by: sokukodo on February 01, 2009, 08:15:19 AM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on February 01, 2009, 02:17:16 PM
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rebooted the machine this morning, and every time the folding begins, the cores crash.
Well...stop doing that!!! The most likely cause, IMHO, would be a corrupted WU. Probably one that didn't get written correctly at that first shutdown. There is a pretty active <TeamOSX forum site> that would get you more expert info, of course. If you aren't too far along with the WU (and even if you are and it's corrupted) you can delete it and get a new one.
If you've been to those forums, you will notice the frustrating way you get from one place to another. The pages will open in a new tab/page but the one with the original link will also open at the new page leaving without the original list of topics.
That may be the way you use forums but I like to keep the list of topics available all the time. You can still do that at these forums by always using the 'back button' to return to the list. Several have complained about this behavior but no one seems to be able to do anything about it. Apparently their moderators/administrators are not as concerned about their users as some other sites I visit (like TS!)...
Post by: sokukodo on February 01, 2009, 04:53:20 PM
Post by: sokukodo on February 01, 2009, 09:45:13 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on February 01, 2009, 10:03:32 PM
Normally, Increase will ask you if you want to save or delete any unfinished WUs if you tell it to UNinstall itself. If you didn't tell it to save the current ones, they were wiped out. So, if the problem was a corrupted WU, you got the job done via the 'back door!' I would find it strange that the cores would become corrupt since they don't do any writing or modifying of themselves, that I know of. They are basically just like any other app, they do stuff, but they usually don't get corrupted. The files they write, however (including '.plist' files), are a different story!
Just good to hear that you are back up and folding. Sometimes you need to check back fairly often to see an answer to a post (or have a notification sent when it is answered). Today may have been a less than active day, also. I think there was some kind of special game going on, some where. I'll read about in the paper tomorrow. I doubt that whatever it was will change much of anything in the world...
Post by: sokukodo on February 02, 2009, 09:54:08 AM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on February 03, 2009, 02:19:36 PM
Post by: sokukodo on February 05, 2009, 12:45:57 AM
of which I'm totally addicted ...
Post by: Xairbusdriver on February 05, 2009, 10:36:40 AM
Post by: Mrious_be on February 06, 2009, 08:27:17 AM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on February 06, 2009, 06:26:19 PM
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Folding?
Protein folding. It's what they do in their spare time, I guess. Here are some links for a much better explanation than I could provide!<Wikipedia>
<Official Folding@Home site>
<short video> BTW, our folding apps don't include the folding 'music!'
<A very interesting visualization video>
Of course, my 'sig' is a link to the Team Mac OSX site.
The apps we use also include one that can display any protein they might be working on in any of those variations shown in that last video.
Come on in! The water's fine!
Post by: Mrious_be on February 10, 2009, 07:32:44 AM
Is this something you can do on your computer?
I guess it's something like people can help SETI search while their computer is "idle"?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on February 10, 2009, 06:13:17 PM
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Is this something you can do on your computer?
Absolutely! That's the whole point of these kinds of things. The technical name is "shared computational power" or "shared computing." By using thousands of individual computers, sometimes more can be accomplished than by using one huge, very expensive, dedicated computer. And it's almost free for the researchers as we volunteers do this for nothing but the pleasure of helping science/health research. And you are correct SETI is uses the same principles.Come on in, the water's fine! You don't have to be online 24/7. Don't even have to have the computer on 24/7. You'll simply get work done quicker if you do that and may see your 'rankings ' climb faster.
Post by: Mrious_be on February 11, 2009, 07:00:23 AM
I might check it out but in general, when I don't use the computer, it's off.
So that wouldn't help much right?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on February 11, 2009, 10:25:09 AM
As long as you Mac is on for a few hours every day and you're connected to the Internet each day, the work should get done and uploaded back to Stanford just fine. There are time limits on each work unit but their sever seems to be able to figure out what size units to send to each computer and how long to wait for the unit to be completed. That lets slow computers or ones that aren't always on still be of use in the research. Just be sure you sign up as Team # 1971! That way, you can help the score of the Mac OSX group (we've dropped to 9th place from 6th! Lots of "overclockers" out there!
)!