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Archives => 2009 => Topic started by: iGuy on November 07, 2009, 04:19:35 PM

Title: Completed Mac Mini system upgrade
Post by: iGuy on November 07, 2009, 04:19:35 PM
Just wanted to report back on a successful upgrade to Leopard on my friends 1.42 GHz G4 Mac Mini.  I repaired permissions then proceeded with the upgrade.  From there I went to software update and brought it up to system 10.5.8. Repaired permissions again.  Downloaded the latest version of Yahoo Messenger and Firefox.  Oh, and a demo version of Snood of course.  smile.gif  Removed unwanted languages with Monolingual. Fine tuned some things and all looks good.  The speed of the computer felt very usable.  I think he will be much happier with Leopard after all the issues he was having with Panther.  

In a week or so I will be doing the same to an eMac.
Title: Completed Mac Mini system upgrade
Post by: jchuzi on November 07, 2009, 04:31:50 PM
What were the issues that he was having with Panther? If they were hardware-related, upgrading to Leopard won't solve them.
Title: Completed Mac Mini system upgrade
Post by: Paddy on November 07, 2009, 08:03:46 PM
One note - if he's using various Adobe pro apps, removing languages with Monolingual is NOT a good idea - it can render them unusable. (Reader does not seem to be affected)
Title: Completed Mac Mini system upgrade
Post by: iGuy on November 08, 2009, 08:59:48 AM
Jon, he was having software issues.  Mostly problems with not being able to upgrade to the most recent versions of common internet applications.  Giving him problems with some websites such as facebook.  Also, his daughter wasn't able to chat with older chat programs like Yahoo Messenger.

Thanks for that information, Paddy.  He is just a basic user, internet and email.  That is strange why removing foreign languages would make a program unusable.  
Title: Completed Mac Mini system upgrade
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 08, 2009, 09:56:17 PM
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That is strange why removing foreign languages would make a program unusable.
<begin rant>The main reason is because Adobe doesn't like to use just the languages (nor fonts, for that matter) that you deem necessary and have installed. Just because you never expect to ever see/display any 'strange' languages doesn't mean you might not, sometime, in a galaxy far, far away, get a document that has one. Adobe, in their wisdom greater than any other software company, disdains the user for wanting a cleaner, more usable drive/System. They even go to the 'effort' of installing fonts that you may already have, just because they can. They want an absolute path to the fonts they install and, seemingly, only check what you might have as an after thought. After all, you can't trust a mere user to know what is needed for 'real' software. rolleyes.gif Besides, it's just easier to stuff every thing you want in places you know about than to bother telling a user that something might be needed. Whose hard drive is that, anyway?! The 'customer' only has a drive because Adobe needs one, right? wallbash.gif

If I sound rather down on Adobe, it is only because I am. They have shown the 'hand that really got them started' nothing much more than the south end of a north bound mule, in my humble opinion. I have removed every bit of their software that I can determine it safe to do, including Acrobat Reader. I still have scraps of CS4 that PS Elements installs and whatever use might be gained from their hand-me-down Bridge image management system.

I'm sure their products are found useful by many professionals, 'power-users' and those with unlimited cash, but they have been nothing more than a pain in the neck for me. On the other hand, they now have me tied to PS Elements since there is absolutely nothing else on the market even closely comparable. But, like Quicken, I am continually looking for a better solution...<end of rant>
Title: Completed Mac Mini system upgrade
Post by: kimmer on November 08, 2009, 10:26:31 PM
^Gosh ABD, don't keep your frustration and hostility about Adobe all bottled up. It's not healthy. Go ahead and tell us how you really feel. You're amongst friends here.  whistling.gif  flower-smilie.gif  harhar.gif
Title: Completed Mac Mini system upgrade
Post by: Jack W on November 09, 2009, 10:44:18 AM
IAW xabd

Adobe software sucks. It takes forever to load. And it is BLOATWARE.

It has to load a gazillion pieces before it  starts. - Elements

On the other hand GraphicConverter loads almost instantaneously.
And most of my graphic manipulation can be done in GC.

RANT ON abd!!!!

- Jack
Title: Completed Mac Mini system upgrade
Post by: dboh on November 09, 2009, 11:02:04 AM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Nov 8 2009, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
<begin rant>Adobe<end of rant>


They must be doing something well -- like making themselves indispensable. They've pretty much run Quark out of business.


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