Post by: MrsLop on June 10, 2003, 12:13:52 PM
Post by: Bruce_F on June 10, 2003, 12:42:08 PM
Other than that, I think you might be a little disappointed in how fast your computer will be, compared with WebTV. There's a potential bottleneck within your Mac that will choke on the amount of data coming down the pipeline.
I saw a major difference when I switched my cable connection from my G3 PowerCenter Pro to my G4 MDD. You can actually see the data stop and go when the G3 is trying to gulp the packets down. With the G4, the data continues to pour in at whatever speed the modem is sending.
Post by: Bill on June 10, 2003, 02:43:27 PM
Now if you think of it in my terms.
Everybody on this planet has high speed internet except for you and I.
If you take the plunge, I'll be all alone. /sigh\
Welcome to Techsurvivors!
Post by: jguti on June 10, 2003, 03:04:13 PM
Modems rule! 
Post by: Spartacus on June 10, 2003, 03:21:55 PM
Surfing with it is as slow as a 28k modem. It really is.
But that's because of the extremely slow system and browsers (Netscape 4.6 and IE 4.something).
Downloading is as fast as on my PM G4.
I have only connected my 4400 because I have a DSL flatrate. Speed is not the point.
Post by: MrsLop on June 10, 2003, 03:31:56 PM
I never anticipated the warm welcome from this forum.I have visited other sites over the last few days but felt intimidated by the types and kinds of questions submitted. I felt overwhelmed. I am so happy that I am treated like a human being here: with human foibles. Thank you all, again!
Post by: MrsLop on June 10, 2003, 04:04:45 PM
I may not be able to hook up to the super highway of information - yet! From some of the links provided by Kelly (see my other post under MrsLop. I need specific adapters etc..I am not even using my mac yet. I have it plugged in and I can start it up; but that's as far as I have gotten.
I will have to get mac for Dummies and read it.
Post by: Bill on June 10, 2003, 07:01:31 PM
if you do a search here at TS,you will find tons of links and advise on what books to read.
Post by: MrsLop on June 10, 2003, 10:50:54 PM
Bill, I just got an email from Bob LeVitus,Dr Mac. He advised me to try Amazon for his out of print 7.5 For Dummies.I had emailed him about his other book 7.6 For Dummies, inquiring about whether it would apply to my 7.5.3. I think that I will try Amazon. It's getting very late here on the "right" coast. I need to get my rest. I am off to Radiation Treatment for the first time tomorrow. (see other post under MrsLop) Night All, and
Post by: Dreambird on June 11, 2003, 12:51:08 AM
I'm afraid I don't know a thing about the older Macs... converted from PC in Jan, 2000 with a PowerBook G3 and now have two of them... I
them!For myself I've always been on cable even in my PC days... but have had several times to make use of the 56k modem in these machines... I wouldn't trade my cable! Yeah it may be slower than a G4, but the difference is night/day for me!
But when it comes to the older machines... I'm afraid I don't know.
But anyway, just wanted to welcome you... chin up on all the treatment you're stuck with right now, my Mom and Dad went through the same things!
Oh... BTW, I will try my bestest to keep Bill busy!...
Post by: RobW on June 11, 2003, 08:38:57 AM
I agree with Spartacus. If you went high speed, the information might GET to your COMPUTER fast, but your computer wouldn't be able to get the information to YOU very fast because of the speed of the machine, amount of memory, etc. It's like throwing a book like "War and Peace" at me. It would get to me in a hurry, but my brain still needs to process the information once I start to read it. (And as the years go on, this process seems to be taking me longer and longer.
)If you're going to stick with this Mac, I'd use a 56k modem. Another thing to keep in mind to save money--don't be so quick to spend $21.95 or whatever a month for your internet provider. There are others that are cheaper and may be available where you live. Can you tell us what region you live in? For example, my father uses an Internet Service Provider that I also used until I changed to DSL in October. By prepaying fora 6 month period, he pays $11.95/month. Even without prepay, it would only cost about $14.95/month. This service services many states in the Northeast area of the country. It's called Galaxy Internet Services: http://www.gis.net
There are other providers with similar rates that may be available to you.
Post by: beacher on June 11, 2003, 12:23:30 PM
And Kelly was right, in another post. . .Just look at this as an adventure; we can (almost!) always get you out of any trouble that you get into. . .At least in this "virtual world"! Don't go "hitting" any banks, though; our expertise doesn't extend there.
At one point, when I got my G3 messed up, I had to go to the local library to be able to connect to the net to get help from some of these great folk. . .I was sooooooooo grateful when they bailed me out of the jam I had created!
Post by: MrsLop on June 11, 2003, 01:06:08 PM
Wish me well. I am off to my first Radiation Treatment. I understand that the treatment makes one very tired. If I am able, I will join you all later on.
Post by: RobW on June 11, 2003, 01:25:02 PM
QUOTE(MrsLop @ Jun 11 2003, 2:06 PM)
Dear All,
Wish me well. I am off to my first Radiation Treatment. I understand that the treatment makes one very tired. If I am able, I will join you all later on.
Wish me well. I am off to my first Radiation Treatment. I understand that the treatment makes one very tired. If I am able, I will join you all later on.
For what it's worth--I can assure you that right now you're getting lots good wishes from lots of different places! Just check the locations of those of us who have posted to your questions. I know I speak for many of us when I say that our thoughts and prayers are with you. And I'm pretty certain that we cover all of the traditional religions and a good number of not so traditional religions.
When you feel up to it, let us know how you're doing--with the Mac and with your treatments.
Post by: pendragon on June 11, 2003, 02:11:48 PM
You go gal!
Harv
Post by: MrsLop on June 12, 2003, 08:13:06 AM
I have come to the conclusion that I will probably encounter a bottleneck in the super highway of information using the slowwww "old mac" According to my specs found at the Apple Museum, I have an Ethernet Port and I don't know what that means yet. The specs under Communications say Modem: N/A. On the back of the Processor I can see the plug for the Ethernet Port and also a symbol for a Telephone Handset - but it does not look like the openning accomodates a telephone type plug, just a plug in like the rest of the mac plugs ie: mouse, keyboard, sound etc.. Does this mean I cannot use a modem? Is this what is referred to as "external"? I apologize for not knowing all the buzz words associated with computer language, but I am trying to learn as I go. By the way, I was Told that my Radiation Treatment is cumulative and I will be more and more tired as the weeks progress. I calculated that I have about three to four weeks to learn and do everything to get my "old mac" up, running,printing and hooked up to the internet. Whew!!!
Post by: kelly on June 12, 2003, 08:20:03 AM
There should be three. Printer, Modem and Keyboard.
Yes you would need an External Modem.
You don't have an Internal one in that machine.
It would have a special cable connector like your Keyboard Cable.
This would connect to the Modem "Port" as they're called.
PS. You don't have to apologize for what you don't know.
We understand. That's ok.
That's why we're here and that's what we do.
We're happy to give you the information you need.
Post by: MrsLop on June 12, 2003, 09:01:48 AM
I read your other post with interest
I went to the eBay item you suggested but the person had some current negative feedback, which makes me hesitant. Both of the negaties were about non shipment of items paid for. With my limited budget, I cannot afford to take any chances. I was not supplied with a modem or plug in for the internet. Judging only from what I have seen from the folders and Control Panel there is capablility for doing this, provided I have the correct parts for the job. I love learning new things, but I am prone to suffering from information overload I have to back away now and then. The Chemotherapy caused me to lose some focus and brain functioning, causing me no end of grief. Since ending treatment, I am now able to focus better, to read and brain functioning is slowly returning to its' normal functioning. It may take me a bit longer than others on TS to assimilate the information and use it. Thanks for your understanding and patience.
Post by: neokm on June 12, 2003, 10:47:48 AM
We have got to get you more ram (random access memory) which are very inxpensive for this model nowadays. I have a few hanging around that you can have - gratis but they are 8mb and you should consider two 32mb simms - - - Im sure someone has some laying around - if not, I can point you in an 'inexpensive' direction. I would put this task on your 'must do' priority list. Very easy to install - no magic required - I promise - you'll be a much happier mac'er.
Mike
Post by: neokm on June 12, 2003, 03:57:10 PM
My advice is to use a 56k external modem (comp USA or ebay), and shop for the lowest rate - - - as previously mentioned, with a 6100 broadband (cable) won't benefit you one IOTA. Save your money by getting a cheaper phone rate with an ISP (Internet Service Provider). I'm sure Kelly and other more advanced (cheapscapes) can point you in the right direction.
All the best for another day of macpleasure
Mike
This is what I edited - -
PS - - - FWIW (I owe everything to TS - starting with Hawaii Al who sold me his old ram simms and a few other things - - - he is light years ahead of me but I'm happy to have had his old parts and mostly his assistance ((along with all other TSer's)).
Sorry Kelly - I didn't mean to call you a 'cheapscape' don't rag on me for being frugle - or is it frugal??? I wish I had spell-check but Mrios, Cyberpet and (as I'm writing, I can't remember his/her ID from India) no matter - - - the important thing is that if TSer's from afar - and do not speak our language - and still express Q/A with us - - - I felt very comfortable from the very beginning - - - I would bet that you do as well!!
Mike
Post by: kelly on June 12, 2003, 07:54:50 PM
That's ok Mike.
I don't enjoy "shopping" any more than most guys do.
But I really enjoy finding good deals on computers and such.
Witness all my dealmac related posts.
So in this instance I'll take it as a compliment.
Post by: MrsLop on June 12, 2003, 09:59:33 PM
A good deal is only a good deal if: you receive it.
the thing works and you get a great price. According to Auction Bytes,
eBay has had most of its' complaints in the Electronics and Computer area. There have been reports that hackers are employing identity theft to route buyers to a bogus address for payment, of course, the buyer doesn't receive the item and is out the money as well. There have also been reports of bogus Notebooks for sale at a "too good to be true price" and it is. Again the Buyer is out the money and the item. Then there are those who "guarantee" the item to be in fine, excellent working condition and it isn't. I have read the Feedback. I am very reluctant to bid or buy anything in the Electronics/Computers categories from eBay for the above reasons. It is unfortunate, because I am sure that there are many honest Sellers with great items. Food for thought:
Caveat Emptor.
Post by: kelly on June 12, 2003, 10:19:09 PM
I'm well aware of the scams and such.
I have a list of reliable vendors I buy from on line.
So far everything has been very good for several years.
Post by: neokm on June 12, 2003, 11:15:17 PM
Mike
PS - Be cautious of the ebay stores and gang-bangers (multiples of the same item from a single source) A lot of computer science teachers fall into this category - it does not take long to get a handle on ligitimcy and fair-priced items - - - all in all, when in doubt - ask the TS board of advice before you place a bid. I have (and also have not ) only to regret it.
Anyone want a 21", 65-pound IBM studio monitor (would you believe it came with 'free shipping' for a grand toal of $95?) Worked for a three days and went to sleep - can't wake it up - I complained to my internet source and they sent me a 17" Apple ColorSync - gratis! Great site for making good - - -www.pcsurplusonline.com - - - lots to find there - - - mac included
Post by: MrsLop on June 13, 2003, 07:32:20 AM
Thanks to a few TS members, help is on the way. Since I do not have their permission to use their names, they will remain anonymous. I will have a modem and a book, so I can learn converse in Computerese.
Gratitude and Humility are two wonderful blessings. I am grateful for every day I live and humbled by all the good people who share their experience, strength and hope with me - TS members, my sisters and brothers in my Church and Choir, my Doctors and caregivers. I am so blessed!
Post by: MrsLop on June 13, 2003, 08:01:58 AM
About costs for ISP providers. A few year back WebTV offered unlimited access to the Web and email. Since I had no computer I thought this was one inexpensive way to get on the internet. They were taken over by MSN. The service remains at $24.95 a month. They are offering a package if anyone wants to add a PC.
They have been pretty reliable. It would be the fastest way for me to get the PC online, but perhaps not the most inexpensive. My local cable company is also offering a package. Last year I got digital cable service and digital telephone service: local and long distance. From what friends are telling me who have their PCs connected to this service , the speed of connection is really great and they expressd their satisfaction. The services are very expensive. I have not had a problem with their service either. I need to really consider what I can do that will be both cost effective and least disruptive. I am sure that there are many other services out there that I am not aware of. I need to do my research and compare. Thanks for your input.
Post by: SnowWitch on June 13, 2003, 11:54:06 AM
I think I mentioned the MSN "One Plan" in another thread, but for $21.95 for both computer and MSNTV I think is a pretty good deal. I think going with the cable connection would mean more equipment to add to expenses and the monthly MSNTV would still be $24.95 if you keep that online.....anyway, keep up the good work. As far as "Mac-speak" goes, I'm in a fog most of the time....I just get on and do what I can do....
....(now back to work...sssshhhhh) 
trish
Post by: MrsLop on June 13, 2003, 12:16:59 PM
My bwain hurts and it feews wike it's going to expwode. Somebody stop me, I can't stop this Elmer Fudd thing.
Anyway, I went to the MSN WebTV center to get more information on the Plans.
Since you have already had the WebTV service, you know what the limitations are, too. I haven't quite made up my mind as I need to check all of the players in the ISP game. Considering the age of my "old mac" their may be other influencing factors before I can get online with the PC. 'Bye for Now. I am off to get some much needed rest.
Post by: Dreambird on June 13, 2003, 12:58:12 PM
Afraid I still don't know anything about older Macs... but you definately have come to a place filled with good people willing to help!
I'm just following the threads...
I "do" have a lot of faith in the people on this board... way back when we weren't fortunate enough to have our own place yet a bunch of them helped me out of a rought spot too.
My sister has a PowerBook... in fact she's the little bugger to turned me on to Macs... I
her for it! But when she was here once with it, I knew "nothing" and she had become unfamiliar with them since the ones in college were on OS7 something just going to OS8 at the end. It gave me a system bomb and we could not get it going again... but these guys talked me through a clean install and the night ended happily.Lucky for me I still had a PC to connect with so I didn't need to go to the library...
Take care of yourself too though... get lots of rest!
Post by: MrsLop on June 13, 2003, 08:38:07 PM
I have been researching ISP and am disappointed that I didn't get very much accomplished today.
For amusement and distraction, I went to a link Kelly had provided earlier on Low End Macs.
I am sooo tired today. I just can't get myself psyched up for any brain work. Being a woman who does too much, I am also using my WebTv PIP to watch the Secret Pompeii.
I am going to call it a day, and go to bed with a good Sherlock Holmes mystery. My husband is very busy with last minute preparations for his 8th grade class graduation this Sunday.
I told him about TS and he sat with me for awhile looking at the site.
Sorry I didn't respond earlier. Have a Good Evening
Post by: Gary S on June 13, 2003, 10:53:44 PM
Post by: Dreambird on June 13, 2003, 11:04:12 PM
Enjoy your book, Mrs. Lop and sleep well!
You say "as a woman who does too much"... yup!... just like my Mom when she underwent chemo, my sister just about had to insist and drag her to bed.
Post by: MrsLop on June 14, 2003, 07:10:14 AM
I wondered if anyone has an answer to my musings about security issues concerning Internet and a few other small questions.
WebTV (MSN TV) is my only current route to the Internet. They filter spam email, and I presume viruses and worms, as well. I never had to think about this before. Do other ISP's do this as well, or do I have to have to take responsibility? I have seen programs in my newspaper ads called Anti Virus this and Anti Virus that...From some of the threads I have read, these are serious enough to ruin a hard drive. How does a computer "catch" them.
Will I be better off putting my old mac 6100/60AV on a different ISP (provided that I can find one that can do the job with an Software Version 7.5.3 Update 2.0?) to lessen the chances of being without Internet Service , in case of such Viruses and worms? Thanks for your input.
Post by: danf63 on June 14, 2003, 07:34:32 AM
Dan
Post by: MrsLop on June 14, 2003, 07:50:44 AM
Nice to meet you. What I have is a WebTV connectec currently, to the internet through MSN. It is not a computer. I was given an old 6100/60AV PowerPC with Version 7.5.3 Update 2.0. I have been learning from TS because I know nothing about computers, software, in this case OS, or any peripherals. It came with the Keyboard II and Mouse, and Personal LaserWriter 320 and most all the wiring, except for the modem and its' wire.
I have learned how to connect everything but it is still not hooked up to the internet yet, as I need to research ISP"S.
I have posted other topics as well.
Thanks to TS members, like yourself I have already learned how to remove my processor cover and change the 3.6V PRAM Battery, and printed out one page on the printer.
Post by: kelly on June 14, 2003, 09:48:07 AM
99.9999% of the Viruses and worms are written for PCs.
That is what we call computers that run Windows versions.
Viruses are not a problem for most mac users.
You may want to get something eventually but it's not a big deal.
Post by: MrsLop on June 14, 2003, 01:25:20 PM
Did you mean I may want to get a virus or worm?
Just kidding.
I thought everyone had to have Windows on a Computer.
Question: My husband has a computer at his school.
It is Windows based, and has a CD and floppy. Can he use this Mac for his school related work? Are they incompatible or is there a way for them to speak the same language?
Post by: TerryV on June 14, 2003, 02:09:22 PM
(1) You can do it on a Mac.
(2) It would be a good idea to invest a few dollars to bring this Mac up to the "Trailing Edge of Technology", i.e. upgrade to OS 8.6, add as much RAM as you can afford, a used or refurbished 56K modem, you will have to get the connection cable for it, and you will be "good to go".
(3) Software: it's up to you! You can still download Internet Explorer for the Mac free from Microsoft, and there are TONS of other browsers available, I use Opera, www.opera.com.
It might intrest you to know that I am replying to you on a five year or more old computer (when you get up past 50 you only remember exact dates that are 25 or more years ago!). A Performa 6400/200, it originally came with system 7.xx installed and a 200mhz 603e processor with a built in 36k modem. Fast forward to the present, with a good helping of help from TS'ers, both personally and from reading posts by others, and I am running, on the same machine, a 300mhz G3, OS 8.6 (Very stable) IE 5.1. For the longest time I connected to the net via a 56K modem (Diamond Supra Express 56K external) via Earthlink and was very happy.
Go ahead, it isn't as difficult as you may think, and the help you will get here will get you thru any problems that you may face.
Best of luck with the chemo, my Dad went thru that many, many years ago and I wish you well. TerrV.
Post by: MrsLop on June 14, 2003, 03:21:16 PM
A pleasure to meet you.
I haven't checked into Earthlink, yet.
Some help is already on the way, a Global Village 56K modem from one TS member and a book( so that I can learn more about Macs, from another TS member.
It is exciting to know that I can upgade this old Mac. I have to do it gradually, though.
Medical costs are really quite expensive and have long since drained our meager reserves. I was at the Emergency Room a few weeks ago because I wasn't able to breath too well and the total cost of that was a whopping $5900+. Fortunately, I only have to pay a balance of $ 75.00. The Chemotherapy from the Cancer left me with a side effect that effects my breathing - among other things. So you see, I just have do things a little bit at a time, as I can afford to.
The computer is not the highest priority on my list - recovery and getting well is.
Someday, I hope to be able to look back on all of this, and smile with all of you on the TS Board. Until then, to quote Bette Davis, " fasten your seatbelt, it's going to be a very bumpy ride." I think that's what she said. I mean this in a good way.
I am chomping at the bit
and can't wait to get started doing all kinds of wonderful things to this old Mac.
Thanks for your help!
Post by: Dreambird on June 14, 2003, 04:45:02 PM
Those medical costs!
*ouch** As far as security... Kelly's right in that you're unlikely to run into a virus or worm that will affect your Mac... but it is possible to pass worms to PC users you may email...
Personally I use Virex 6.1 for antivirus duties.
They "say" it's for OS7.5.5 and up to OS9.x... if that's not good for you I'm not sure if you can still get an earlier version. It's all I've ever used here... updates are available monthly and I wouldn't worry about any sort of firewall software unless running OS X.
Oh and for browsers... I too use Opera 5 and like it very much... minor glitches, nothing to get very upset about. If I could wish for one thing with Opera it would be that they had an integrated email program... I use Netscape for that.
Post by: MrsLop on June 14, 2003, 05:19:08 PM
Nice of you to stop by and chat with me for a while. I wondered where you had been.
I am not so much worried about my old "mac,"I am more concerned about my husband's school computer getting a virus or worm. He is the one running Windows based programs. I suppose that if he uses his other email addresses we shouldn't have any virus or worm wending their way into my hard drive. Not to many months ago, a hacker took down the school's website and my husband's email at his school address won't work. Because student volunteers from a college do all the maintenance and etc.. it may be a very long time before he has that up and running again.
Good hearing from you, again and thanks so much for the information.
Post by: Dreambird on June 14, 2003, 10:02:15 PM
My pleasure chatting with you... since that's about all I can do... my knowledge on the older Macs being so meager!
But most definately YES... although our Macs might sail through worm problems with no problem... they can still unfortunately be passed on to our PC friends. Unintentionally of course, but it causes a real pain! I had something once... can't remember who or where from that had "junk" email landing in my inbox so fast (about every 10 min.) I finally set a temporary filter so it would go straight to the trash folder. It didn't hurt me one bit other than to exasperate me...
But my ISP was bogged down with it... it slowed my service down so much I might just as well have been on dialup... I'm on cable. I even checked my whole HD with Virex to be sure "I" didn't have anything on my 'puter... I didn't.
Things to watch for in your email's inbox are attachments to files with extensions like .exe, .pif, .bat and .doc... I never open them except for .doc if I know the person sending it.
Still Mac's rule when it comes to having very little problems with viruses and worms.
I too know a whole site (a forum like this one, but for Windows) that was taken down with 100% loss by some hacker! I know the fellow too, he didn't deserve it one bit... I started a Netscape forum on his site and all the info was lost. He's coming back nicely though...
Post by: Gary S on June 14, 2003, 10:24:54 PM
The absence of the virus problems that plague Wintel (PCs) is one , amongst many problems, that makes the Mac platform so desireable. I have had one worm virus in the 18 years i've been using macs and that came from a commercial CD from a magazine.
Don't worry about viruses on the mac, you'll be wasting your energy.
I hope your feeling fairly well today. I went through the radiation process with my sister and father, both of which had cancer. There is light at the end of the tunnel. Both my sister and dad are doing well after their treatments. It's been 15 years for my sis and 3 years for my dad. I just am greatfull for the advancements in medical technology.
I know, that's easy for me to say.
Post by: MrsLop on June 15, 2003, 04:20:52 AM
I hope that you check back often.
I will be attempting to expand the RAM on the "old MAc" and I might even do an a Systems upgrade.
Stay tuned for "The Adventures of Mrs Lop in Mac Land" coming soon to the TS Forum.
Post by: MrsLop on June 15, 2003, 04:56:39 AM
I waited all day to hear from you. I finally went to sleep at about 9PM last night. I was so exhausted.
I just wanted to say
for the wonderful graphics of my most esteemed heroes - Sherlock Holmes.I knew you were on the board with another topic, but I didn't want to intrude.
I was feeling a bit tired
yesterday. I was trying to do so many things at once.
Today is another day and I am feeling well.
Good thing too. Today, my husbands' 8th Grade class is graduating.
Every year, we have a Mass dedicated to these young people and pray for them. I sing with the Choir. I was trying to master the chant like, "Ave Maria". I hope the Angels sing with us today, as this is not an easy piece. I had a lot of music to go over. We like to sing some contemporary music for them too.
Throughout my illness, I asked the Choir Director if I could have all the sheet music sent home with my husband. I played the piano to accompany myself and learn the pieces on my own. Sometimes, I could make it to practice and other times not. I continued to sing with the Choir, and it kept me uplifted and full of hope.
People from all over the country were praying for me - some people I didn't even know.
Thousands of women die of this diease every year. Most deaths are through secondary forms, linked from the first Cancer.
Mine got through to my lymph nodes before being detected. This is not a good thing. There is a chance that the Cancer has spread to another part of my body through the blood stream. Time will tell.
That said, prayers, and good thoughts sent my way are always happily accepted.
Joyfully,
Post by: Highmac on June 15, 2003, 04:56:01 PM
I was doing my own check on Broadband for the UK and found a link to this site for Mac users on Broadband. Haven't checked it out in detail (and if someone has already given you this link, apologies to you and them), but it may be some help to you.
Post by: Dreambird on June 15, 2003, 05:54:41 PM
Glad to hear you're having a good day... but even so, don't over-do...
I drop in pretty much everyday, and post if there's something I can add to!
Yes, I'll definately be watching for your "adventures!"
Post by: Gary S on June 15, 2003, 06:35:02 PM
I'm enjoying "The Adventures of Mrs Lop in Mac Land".
As you say, "Time will tell." My Dad's cancer was very aggressive and had spread. However he's doing well after 2 rounds of radiation treaments, after 3 1/2 years.
My prayers are with you.
So, you play the piano..... I play the guitar. I find playing music is a great way to get out of myself and
pass the time away.
I'm going to take a nap myself now, it's been a long father's day!
Post by: Bernie on June 15, 2003, 06:54:01 PM
Yes! It's Bernie from Southern California. Hopefully soon with help from other TS Members ( Come on TS'rs!!! Shipping cost help for me)?? This system is on the way to you. Click on this link, http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powe...c_4400_200.htmlHas a PCI Ethernet card for Cable or DSL Internet connection.
Post by: MrsLop on June 15, 2003, 07:40:19 PM
HIGHMAC: Another TS Member was researching ISP costs for me. I am so confused about all this. DSL, ISP, High Speed Internet. I think I need to go a little more slowly on this, as I don't want to get into long term contracts with penalties etc..
Dreambird: I sang my little heart out today.
I congratulated as many of the students during the sign of peace today at Mass. Afterwards, I was starting to fade a little. Some of the students came over to see how I was doing during the Reception for them afterwards. I must have been confused about the music. I may have a nother two weeks for that 'Ave Maria." I did have a nice rest this afternoon.
Gary S: " Music soothes the savage Beast..." I love to play the piano. I have played since I was three. In 1997, I suffered injuries to both hands. I have had many operations since. I can no longer play very quickly at all. Will post more on this subject, below.
I don't know what I would do without you all!
Post by: MrsLop on June 15, 2003, 07:49:14 PM
My cup runneth over...
Thank You, seems like such a puny response to such a magnanimous gesture.
May you be richly blessed in return...
Post by: MrsLop on June 15, 2003, 08:46:51 PM
I did not want to start another thread, though this is clearly off topic.
I had a wonderful Wedding at my church last September 7th. My husband was a widower, whose late wife, of twenty years, died of a swift acting disease.
Between us, we have eight children and four grandchildren.
We thought that the most traumatic thing we were to face was another hand surgery for me. We were married less than three months when I was diagnosed with Cancer on December 3rd, 2002. I was operated on December 19th. In many ways, I feel worse for my husband, the loss of his late wife had been a real trauma for him. Now to be faced with my illness, so soon after our marriage, it just seems a bit much. He is such a good, kind soul.
I need the hand surgery badly, but since it was not life-threatening, my Surgeon and Chemotherapist said "Absoutely Not." Sometime later this Summer or Fall, I will have to undergo the hand surgery. On February 10th , my Maid-of Honor died of Leukemia, Sister Maria Frances Conway was a Sister of Mercy. She was one of the finest individuals I have ever known. She was the type of person who always made time to help a person in need. Though she was diagnosed as terminally ill, and knew that she was dying, she never told me. She didn't want to disappoint me. She was there for me at my Wedding, as my witness. It proved to be the last public function she was to perform. I started Chemotherapy and then went to her Wake. Her Funeral was on Valentine's Day. She was loved by so many people. I treasure what she said " I don't want to die dying, I want to die living (my life)." Now that, my friends is an example that I aspire to.
Now you know the who and why of MrsLop, for the most part. I want to do as much as I can, for as long as I am able. How I live my life is more important to me than how long I have to live it.
The computer will be my link to all of you.
It is my hope to be able to learn, with your help, how to do all that I need to do with a Mac. More importantly, I hope that you all feel comfortable doing so. Please, stop by and just say "Hello" and let me know how you are doing.
Thus far, it has been a wonderful experience for me. You have all shared something of yourselves with me, as well. Thank you all -
Post by: Highmac on June 16, 2003, 04:22:13 AM
By the way don't worry about starting another thread - we do it all the time! It's generally accepted practice to start a thread that's NOT directly about Macs with OT (Off Topic) especially when the title is a cryptic crossword clue
. Helps those with slow dial-ups (like us) pick and choose which threads to follow.
Post by: Bernie on June 16, 2003, 09:49:30 AM
I suffer from Lupus and live day by day. I still work which Doctors say I shouldn't but I get a great satisfaction helping people. Makes me feel good. There's a lot of people out there suffering from diseases worse then mine. So yes! I'm Blessed. Which reminds me. Got to go and take my Plaquenil. Anyone know what this drug is for and what it does???
Post by: kelly on June 16, 2003, 10:11:06 AM
http://www.rheumatology.org.nz/nz09008.htm
Post by: MrsLop on June 16, 2003, 12:20:12 PM
I wanted to send my Thanks to those of you who are helping Bernie with the shipping costs of the Processor.
I am doing a mental juggling act, as usual.
I am rearching for information concerning the 4400/200 and getting nowhere, as I can't find things too easily at the Apple Website.
I am already working out my budget for July. My husband's healthcare provider is raising it's rates for specialist visits. As it is, I am required to see the Radiologist every week.
I called the Chemotherapist to ask why I am having intermittent strange sensations in my head, accompanied by sharp pain. I also asked about the loss of vision focus, accompanied by blurriness. She said that I should call 911 or get to the Emergency Room
as soon as it happens again. She is not sure, but thinks they could be early warning signs of something else: stroke, blood clot to the brain etc. This is not a fun thing to hear. She said that it was definitely not Chemotherapy related.
I will be going to be having Radiation this afternoon - then home to rest.
In the interim, I will be looking for links for information the 4400/200.
Post by: kelly on June 16, 2003, 01:53:25 PM
Some of your Kind Benefactors (not me I just give information) will take care of it.
Post by: Bernie on June 16, 2003, 07:37:31 PM
Anyway. I've printed out the specifications about you older Mac .It's the Box. ( The box is what my Delta Mitre Saw came in) Here's the specs for you now,
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powe...ac_7200_75.html
Here's what I think you need as far as getting the Mac running great.
You'll see. TS will help you find the best prices on Memory. Contoller card to add a ATA HDD since SCSI'S HDD'S " are more expensive" That's what type of drive you have." Anyway, You're at the best Mac info. site on the net. stick with us
Post by: Bernie on June 16, 2003, 08:20:00 PM
Post by: kelly on June 16, 2003, 09:13:52 PM
Post by: Bernie on June 16, 2003, 09:36:33 PM
Post by: kelly on June 16, 2003, 09:44:39 PM
I doubt very much she'll need or use any PCI Slots.
My 2 cents.
Post by: MrsLop on June 16, 2003, 10:31:52 PM
When you two have figured this out wake me up.LOL
I can tell that whatever it is, kelly and I will be on this board for awhile.
Thanks so much, Bernie
Imagine - Christmas in June!
Post by: MrsLop on June 17, 2003, 08:17:56 PM
I have been very busy attempting to make sense of the Mac Tutorials, looking up information on the 7200 /75, and
Browser and Navigation? information. It seems that I need these two.
Whew! It's been some kind of day.
Using WebTV seemed so simple and straightforward. Of course, it had its' limitations.
I now find that I have to acquire a whole new vocabulary and information in order to get on the Internet.
My TS friends have been very busy comparing ISP information. I will keep you posted.
Post by: Gregg on June 18, 2003, 07:42:56 AM
I still use Netscape Communicator, which includes Navigator (the browser) Messenger (for e-mail) and other stuff I don't use (for Newsgroups and whatever else I don't use). Most have switched to Microsoft's Explorer, which is just a browser, meaning you'll need a stand alone e-mail program. Entourage is one choice. I don't know if Eudora is still around.
You can order a CD with the software (browser, e-mail, etc.) you need for probably $20... But, do you know if any of these programs are already on the hard drive of your 'new' computer?
If you do have to get your own programs, be aware that some newer ones will only work in OS X. I'm still on OS9, so I'm not so familiar with those. Others will chime in...
Post by: MrsLop on June 18, 2003, 09:11:44 AM
This is why it is so confusing for me.
To my mind, this whole computer thing is like taking a foreign language.
I saw a whole group of things already listed on the Computer, but when I clicked on them I get a message telling me that
" couldn't be found"
FYI, I will be receiving a "newer" system soon and since I know nothing about it ie. whether it will have anything loaded for systems software and what f any version, I just have to wait and see.
Post by: Gregg on June 18, 2003, 12:39:56 PM
Those things that "could not be found" may have been aliases. That term refers to an icon that is a copy of the original icon of a file or program, and will open the original when you click on it. It's a quick way to get to things that may be buried deep in your folder hierarchy. In fact, Windows users call them "shortcuts".
Typcially, a Mac alias name will be in italics. When created, the Mac automatically appends the word alias to the name, but the user can remove it, and in fact rename the whole thing to something else. So, if the previous owner left a bunch of aliases on the computer, but wiped off the originals, clicking on them will produce an error message like the one you reported.
To make matters worse, an alias name might not be in italics. The user can set that in the computer's preferences. (gang, is that in the finder prefs? - I'm on lunch break at work) So, one way to find out if an icon is an alias is to highlight it (single click) and Get Info (from the edit menu, I think) and see if the Info mentions alias. If it does, and clicking on it gives you that message, you can safely drag it to the trash and never worry about it again.
Post by: MrsLop on June 18, 2003, 01:11:10 PM
I have visions of you becoming very thin if you use your lunch hour to answer questions on the TS Board - especially mine.
The Systems Alias Folder exists.
Unfortunately, it appears that a large array of items appear in this folder. It looks like the whole Apple Menu is residing there. Systems 7.5 update and etc..
I will need to do some further snooping into those...
"The Adventures of MrsLop in Mac Land"...to be continued.....