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Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: hingyfan on July 07, 2010, 10:45:42 AM
I recently updated my 3G iPhone to 4.0 and wrote about the problems here. They subsided after a second update session. However, the iPhone no longer mounts on my iMac 10.5.8. It doesn't even show up in the disk utility and does not charge. It charges fine through a wall plug so it's not an immediate concern but something's gotta give.
Ok i just got around it by making sure the phone was on and restarting. Now it's updating so maybe it will fix something. If i have to restart every time it would not be too much of a hassle since i seldom plug into the computer.
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 07, 2010, 12:31:33 PM
Hope the restart fixed it. Had to do a couple of those a few weeks ago on my 3G, no trouble since then. Probably not a bad idea to do a re-start on the thing every month, anyway. dntknw.gif

Also check the cable you are using when connecting to the computer. Is it the same one when using the wall charger?

Finally, check the connection on the computer. If you have more than one USB connector, try each one. You should also try using another device in those connections, as well. Bet you have a thumb drive laying around...if not, get one, they're always handy and are getting dirt cheap! Even if it's just to check those connections! laugh.gif
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: hingyfan on July 07, 2010, 10:48:46 PM
My dirt cheap thumb drive cost me $40 but it is 16 gigs. Takes a while for that to show up as well.
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 08, 2010, 04:41:23 PM
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Takes a while for that to show up as well.
Show up where? dntknw.gif
Just for grins, how many icons are on your Desktop? Seriously. Thinking.gif
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: hingyfan on July 22, 2010, 01:52:36 AM
Mucho many. But i just got rid of all except maybe four and it did not help.
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 22, 2010, 11:22:52 AM
Try putting every one of those "mucho many" icons on your Desktop into a single folder. Restart. It should start up faster. The "Desktop" is simply a 'window.' Every window has a 'memory' file of the location of everything in it. Most apps don't allow too many movable 'things' in their windows, things are hard coded in a specific place. Not so with a Finder window. It must keep up with the location of every single item on the window and put the things back in that location on startup. But it also has to 'repaint' that window every time part of it is uncovered when you close some other window. That's another reason for it to keep track of 'stuff.' If you, indeed, have "mucho many" icons on your Desktop, it is causing not only the file of their locations to be large, it takes time for the OS/cpu to read that file and draw every one of those icons in the exact place you left them (and make changes to that file if you move any icon even one pixel!).

Seriously, move as many of those icons into groups of folders and put those folders into other groups, etc. until you can have as few icons on the Desktop as possible. It's hard to keep a real desktop clutter free, but there's no excuse for having a cluttered virtual desktop. Finding stuff by looking for an icon is not ideal, anyway, but using the Finder for what it is best at will make things much faster, also. Let the Finder do what it is meant to do and keep the Desktop for viewing some of the beautiful images that you may have around. wink.gif

Now, if I could only convince my wife to follow my advice... wallbash.gif laughhard.gif
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: hingyfan on July 22, 2010, 06:35:33 PM
Complied.
Looks better but does not help the no-show iPhone problem.
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 22, 2010, 07:34:11 PM
Wasn't attempting to solve the iPhone problem, just the "[The thumbdrive] Takes a while for that to show up..." comment.

As for the iPhone:
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: hingyfan on July 22, 2010, 10:05:29 PM
1. Have you tried re-booting it? If not, try that.

What do you mean by that? Reboot the iPhone? I don't know what that is. I do reboot the iMac and nothing happens.
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: hingyfan on July 23, 2010, 02:39:41 AM
Well rebooting the iphone did help, if that's what holdiing the two buttons on the iPhone until it restarts means. After two of those and two iMac reboots, it's back again.
Seems to be a common problem. Apple finally tells you to reinstall iTunes and do some command line things but the old reliable "reboot" did the trick (anyone here watch the IT Crowd, hilarious Brit TV comedy series about two tech guys who tell people to try turning their computers on and off again all day but figure even that is too much work).
Anyway, thanks!
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Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: hingyfan on July 23, 2010, 11:02:35 AM
Iphone now in restore mode. Guess I'll lose my photos. Have some good ones of my cats being intimidated by a chipmunk (through a glass patio door, of course).
Got an update request on the computer, then it said the phone would not update due to unknown error, then said to restore. I think my wife is right when she says to never update.
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: hingyfan on July 23, 2010, 12:23:52 PM
Hey, everything's back. Including the chipmunk.
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 23, 2010, 12:32:09 PM
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Got an update request on the computer, then it said the phone would not update due to unknown error, then said to restore.
"Update" what?
I "Sync" my iPhone every couple of weeks, manually. Always update the data on the phone with what's in my Contacts, Calendar, etc. on the iMac.

I update apps when I notice there are some.

I re-boot the iPhone about once every two months.

I never update anything without having a backup of it. Even an app. It's just too easy to make a zip file of something before hitting the "Update" button. Then, if the update messes something up, I just delete the new one and unzip the old one. Of course, it's best to check for a corrupt pref file before deleting anything... wink.gif
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: hingyfan on July 23, 2010, 05:47:47 PM
Itunes wanted to put latest software on iPhone. But it stopped, saying there was an unknown error. With help of Apple's toubleshooting site, i got it to restore the iPhone, going back to original and then add my apps and such. Only thing it didnt restore was my music. That's ok though as it's all on the computer and i can add it as needed.
It also turns out the usb hub is somewhat of a problem, at least with the iphone. I need a better one.
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: jcarter on July 23, 2010, 06:38:19 PM
I was wary and did not put the newest update into my iPhone.
I will wait,,,,,,,,
Thanks for the warning. If it aint broke,,,,,,,,
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 23, 2010, 08:56:58 PM
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I was wary and did not put the newest update into my iPhone.
Same hear(!). Updating iTunes is not too big a deal if it doesn't work for a week or two until Apple gets a patch out. But I don't want to be without my phone for even an hour. eek2.gif In another month, I'll do a search for problems, and, probably not find but a few. Then I'll make the update. Of course, if I get word that another update is coming down the road, I may do the current one earlier. That's a big problem with many of Apple's apps, they don't usually keep any old versions around should you want to revert, they expect you to do that on your own (install DVDs, archives, zip files, rename a copy, etc.). That's particularly difficult on the iPhone (and I suspect, the iPad). We don't have convenient methods of retaining working versions prior to making updates, at least not as convenient as SuperDuper or CCC. OTOH, Apple has been extraordinarily good at creating non-destructive updates! clap.gif It's probably just my pilot experience that says, "Are you sure you can get out of the blind canyon you're about to enter?" eek2.gif Of course, a program crash, even if it has years of work in it, is not a life-threatening as the sudden stop against a canyon wall... oops.gif rofl.gif

"Never update anything just because Software Update (or iTunes) says there's one available." Aristotle XLVII
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: krissel on July 24, 2010, 05:17:23 AM
Cute pic!  clap.gif
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: hingyfan on July 27, 2010, 11:27:14 PM
I'm glad somebody noticed the photo. It was my main concern! Well that and a few snaps with my wife in Cornwall last year.
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: krissel on July 28, 2010, 12:10:44 AM
QUOTE(hingyfan @ Jul 28 2010, 12:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm glad somebody noticed the photo. It was my main concern! Well that and a few snaps with my wife in Cornwall last year.


Good save!  


Was she looking over your shoulder?  toothgrin.gif
Title: Iphone won't mount
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 28, 2010, 09:04:39 AM
Well, I hope you're happy, hingy! I decided to finally update my 3G after reading that the battery use is slightly better with the new OS. Not a lot of other bells that I will use, however.

1. Sync with the desktop data, then a backup. Check.thumbup.gif
2. Accept the invitation to install the new OS. Check.thumbup.gif
3. Wait, watch the snail-paced "progress" bar, wait, wait some more. Go eat dinner. Thinking.gif5. OK, now it's saying it is restoring my apps, music and misc info. Go take a sedative. rolleyes.gif
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97. Several hours later, the iPhone disappears from iTunes, the iPhone screen still says it's being synced and it's time for bed!

What to do...Safest bet seems to be to Quit iTunes and restart it, leaving the iPhone connected. whew.gif The iPhone shows up! It stops saying it's syncing. The phone part works. wink.gif Looks like all my apps are there. So far, none have become inop. clap.gif

True to reports, the signal bars are now much fewer! laugh.gif

All's well that ends. Well? dntknw.gif laughhard.gif