Post by: gunug on July 16, 2010, 11:02:27 PM
Post by: kimmer on July 17, 2010, 03:34:56 AM
It would help if you could tell us exactly what you want your "rules" and "firewall" to do at FB. Then maybe I could point you to a site that explains things.
Post by: Highmac on July 17, 2010, 04:12:57 AM
Post by: dboh on July 17, 2010, 06:15:03 AM
If what you really want is to get rid of "friends" (ha ha) without them knowing it or being able to see what you're doing, the best way is to go to their profile page, scroll down on the left side, and click "Remove from Friends" (right above the Share button). They won't be notified, and probably the only way they'll figure it out is if they miss your posts on their Home page. If they try to refriend, just don't respond.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 17, 2010, 09:15:34 AM
Post by: Johanbgoot on July 17, 2010, 09:41:46 AM
Johan
Post by: kimmer on July 17, 2010, 12:38:30 PM
QUOTE(dboh @ Jul 17 2010, 03:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If what you really want is to get rid of "friends" (ha ha) without them knowing it or being able to see what you're doing, the best way is to go to their profile page, scroll down on the left side, and click "Remove from Friends" (right above the Share button). They won't be notified, and probably the only way they'll figure it out is if they miss your posts on their Home page. If they try to refriend, just don't respond.
Another option is to "hide" certain people. I also hide all the applications as I don't use them. Hiding the game apps means some of my friends/family never appear on my home page (wall), since all they do is play those games -- but that's their choice and my choice. I don't accept any of the gifts either. Sometimes to find the menus for these things you have to move your mouse around on the right hand side of posts, and then you'll see the "invisible" menu button.
Also, I don't post anything I don't want the entire world to know. I tried using the "very private only people on this list can read this" option, and discovered that my post still wound up on a cancer page -- thanks for FB's "connection" thing where they use keywords to "share" your posts. So I only write stuff I don't mind the whole world knowing.
Post by: dboh on July 17, 2010, 01:16:32 PM
What I'd like to figure out is how to get rid of pages I've previously liked.
Post by: kimmer on July 17, 2010, 02:42:08 PM
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What I'd like to figure out is how to get rid of pages I've previously liked.
Go to your profile > INFO > Likes and Interests > click edit
Near bottom look for Show other pages and click that link.
Then click Remove Page for any links/pages you want to remove.
Post by: jcarter on July 17, 2010, 03:24:05 PM
Plus they have some privacy issues.
I have some tutorials for FB, but since I dont use it any more, I havent tried any.
I had to use them for high school reunion stuff and a bit more, but I havent logged on for months. Nor have I had any more 'invites' from legit or non-legit people.
I made 3 blogs instead, they are much more 'secure' and our extended family whereever we are, can check in to our blogs and make comments or add pictures.
My old one is for family pictures, one for travel and old stuff, and my new WP one is for my classes and pictures and fun stuff.
Jane
Post by: dboh on July 17, 2010, 05:55:28 PM
QUOTE(kimmer @ Jul 17 2010, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
dboh, thanks for the heads up. I will look into that. Family I'll keep on ignore (nothing but potty mouth posts); but perhaps some friends will have to go.
Go to your profile > INFO > Likes and Interests > click edit
Near bottom look for Show other pages and click that link.
Then click Remove Page for any links/pages you want to remove.
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What I'd like to figure out is how to get rid of pages I've previously liked.
Go to your profile > INFO > Likes and Interests > click edit
Near bottom look for Show other pages and click that link.
Then click Remove Page for any links/pages you want to remove.
Thanks. I got rid of a few. There's one that is showing up under Activities (even though all I did was click Like). I can't find a way to get rid of it. I guess I'll just have to hide it.
Post by: gunug on July 18, 2010, 02:43:25 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 18, 2010, 08:01:58 PM
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limit myself by befriending actual friends and family.
That's about as safe as you can get. But it won't stop FB from collecting you as 'friend' of anyone else in your list...and vice versa. Of course, if you limit yourself to 15 - 25 people, why not just use email? You can send it to all of them at once or create groups of certain ones or just a couple at a time and most email apps can keep related messages together, unlike a wall with constantly dropping the last message and just keeping them in chronological order, regardless of the topic. Oh well, too each his own... 
What continues to surprise me is that I keep hearing, "Well, they already know everything about me!" and "I don't care what they learn about me!" I suppose these are the same people who will download anything suggested by a web page and will automatically open what ever comes down the poke, be it an ".exe" file of an email.
Then, of course, they will complain about their AV software slowing their machines and wonder why...assuming they even have AV software that is "up-to-date." 
Post by: gunug on July 19, 2010, 01:55:40 AM
What does anyone else think? Even Tacit would have a great opinion about this and I would like to hear it! (I could almost put up a nationwide 800 number
and do a phone poll or something!
Post by: gunug on July 19, 2010, 02:14:59 AM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 19, 2010, 07:01:07 AM
My mention of AV software was only to show how intermingled we are when using the interwebz for communications. I agree that the only use a Mac user has for it is to delete attachments that may come in an email you want to forward. But it means that, even without extra stuff you may post on social netwrks, any Windows user can easily let your addy get sucked into the great Scam Pit. FB just makes it easier to say things that might be more interesting to more people - the more there are, the less secure that info becomes.
The concept of FB as a 'network' of friends is fine, I even made contact with a couple of relatives I hadn't seen in ~20 years, not to mention a few old girl friends!!
But the black cloud inside the silver lining is well disguised...and for a very important reason. "Buyer be carefull! Don't buy a pig in a server!" Or something like that! 
Take care! Stay cool!
Post by: gunug on July 20, 2010, 09:40:48 AM
Post by: RHPConsult on July 24, 2010, 10:47:59 AM
My 40-something daughter is a BIG fan, having used it to find (and maintain contact with) long lost HS girlfriends, etc. However, we never seem to have the time (maybe because she's the wife-of-one and mother-of-two and running top speed most of the time) and tutoring me takes t-i-m-e!
I, too, would like to see if I have any HS friends (sensate, ambulatory, taking nourishment) who also possess and exercise rudimentary computer skills (after all, my 65th anniversary of HS graduation is next June) who perhaps can be located via FB.
I'll do some more reading on the site, but, after perusing this thread and its exhibits, it does seem that one's "choices" as to privacy are limited and easily (maybe) overcome, overruled, over-something. Daunting.
Post by: jcarter on July 24, 2010, 11:02:30 AM
It was in Ft. Lauderdale, and I didn't attend, but got to see all the videos and pictures.
Our kids use it too, to communicate with old friends.
But I only use it occasionally. I would rather email my friends, and do a web page of our pictures and whatever we want.
Here is an example, the text will be different later, I just used the dog's names, but the owners will have more for me to put in. Like perhaps where the puppy came from and more.
http://www.jcdouglass.net/yellow-labs/sam-bruno.html
Jane
Post by: gunug on July 27, 2010, 08:40:41 PM
Post by: dboh on July 28, 2010, 07:15:03 AM
Has anyone figured out how to delete these Activities?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 28, 2010, 09:17:08 AM
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Has anyone figured out how to delete these Activities?
Other than canceling your account? 
Your problem is one of the reason FB got such low scores on a recent survey of social networking sites; the place is a nightmare of user-UNfriendliness and almost constantly changing how things work. Sounds like it's still being run in that college dorm room. It is amazing to me what people will put up with. OTOH, the majority of people still use Windows...
Post by: dboh on July 28, 2010, 10:49:18 AM
Post by: kimmer on July 28, 2010, 07:53:29 PM
QUOTE(dboh @ Jul 28 2010, 04:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has anyone figured out how to delete these Activities?
I think this will work:
Go to FB, far right-hand side and click and hold on the ACCOUNT "tab".
You should see a link to APPLICATION SETTINGS (although I didn't at first, I actually had to go try to join an application).
If you have this link, select it and you should wind up at a page that shows all your FB applications.
Click the X for those you wish to remove.
If you don't have that menu link, try this page:
http://www.facebook.com/?sk=apps
Let me know if this works for you, please.
Post by: gunug on July 29, 2010, 06:29:38 AM
Post by: dboh on July 29, 2010, 08:09:18 AM
QUOTE(kimmer @ Jul 28 2010, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let me know if this works for you, please.
It didn't show up as an Application, so neither of your methods worked. I did figure it out, though:
From my Profile page, I clicked on the Info Tab, then on Edit Settings. In the Activities section, there was a little blue button with the Page's name (which I guess I hadn't clicked because I thought it would take me to that page). I clicked on the button, and under the page's profile picture to the right, a "Remove" link appeared. Save changes, and voila!
Hope this makes sense.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 29, 2010, 10:21:49 AM
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Hope this makes sense.
I'm sure it does to the developers at FB.
Post by: kimmer on July 29, 2010, 11:27:11 AM
dboh, glad you were able to figure it out.
abd ...
Post by: RHPConsult on July 29, 2010, 11:58:26 AM
Post by: Frances144 on July 29, 2010, 01:06:51 PM
If your complaint/discussion/whatever doesn't fit into one of their little boxes, you are basically left high and dry. There is no Department you can email and they don't do anything if you do complain - not even get back to you.
I found someone stealing my photos, removing the watermark and boasting about it on FB and they did nothing. I can do nothing apart from whinge and tbh it has left a very nasty taste in my mouth. I seriously considered giving it up, but having said that FB is a very useful tool in my networking. I have even sold a pony to someone via FB!
So, I suppose you pays yer money and you makes yer choice.
I wonder how long it will take before others cotton onto the fact that they have alot of information on a very faceless website?
Post by: dboh on July 29, 2010, 01:59:57 PM
Post by: Frances144 on July 30, 2010, 05:01:19 AM
I have tried to report it and their remarks to FB but they are a faceless organisation who do nothing, imho. I have had no reply to 10 reports/flags/complaints and there is nowhere to go with this. Cyber-bullying is alive and well and lives totally unchecked on FB.
Half of me says sod it, leave and the other half says no, why should I? I refuse to be bullied by them.
Revenge Plan A - When she comes into the ring on her nag, I will put my very large camera down and get a book out to read.
Revenge Plan B - I shall take lots of photos of her when she rides in the ring and then put none of them up on my website to purchase.
Which will make her crosser?
Post by: Highmac on July 30, 2010, 05:40:04 AM
Plan D - appear to take lots of pictures and don't post any of them?
Seriously, you obviously know the culprit; point out that putting stuff on FB is still "publishing" (I'm reasonably certain that is the case in the UK) and that she could be liable to the same laws as if these comments were made in a newspaper or magazine. As a last resort, a solicitor's letter might be a worthwhile investment, especially if you can produce screengrabs of the derogatory remarks.
Post by: dboh on July 30, 2010, 06:54:28 AM
It may not accomplish much, but it would shine a light. Like they say, don't get mad, get even.
Post by: Frances144 on July 30, 2010, 07:38:52 AM
Scroll down a bit.
Apparently, as she is 17, she did it without malice! Huh?
I have been told by the powers that be to let it lie.
For me, revenge is a dish best served cold.
Karma, I greatly believe in karma!
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 30, 2010, 01:32:27 PM
Sadly, my only solution would be to kill her with kindness, in person, in public, on FB, etc. It won't hurt you and it may help her see her actions for what they are.
Obviuosly, I also ask that you do what I say and not what I do... 
Post by: gunug on July 30, 2010, 02:44:31 PM
Post by: Frances144 on July 30, 2010, 03:31:30 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 30, 2010, 04:32:06 PM
Unfortunately, 'manners' lessons are not needed by those who have them and are never read/viewed by those who do.
Post by: kimmer on July 30, 2010, 07:33:10 PM
Great video, gunug.
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Jul 30 2010, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Unfortunately, 'manners' lessons are not needed by those who have them and are never read/viewed by those who do.
Agree!!!!!!!!
Personally, I'm tired of all the online mis-behavior. I'm tired of folks firing off emails and/or posts filled with vitriol and hate. Worse, this kind of behavior is now showing up in face to face encounters. It's ugly, nasty and mean. I find myself just withdrawing into my circle of friends and letting the rest of it go by the wayside.
Post by: Frances144 on July 31, 2010, 09:41:20 AM
One of the best words I have heard for a long time.
I have a well-sized watermark. Sadly her skills lie in removing it.
This is my new website btw.
http:www.onlinepictureproof.com/francestaylor
Post by: krissel on July 31, 2010, 10:25:27 AM
My favorite is the close up of the pony muzzles in the intro Flash. Love it!
Post by: RHPConsult on July 31, 2010, 11:33:24 AM
It appears your "subjects' were more than willing.
Post by: jcarter on July 31, 2010, 12:03:58 PM
A wonderful site!
Your photography is just amazing, I LOVE your dogs.
The closeups of all your pets are super. But my favourite of all is your little dog sitting on top of your pony.
Jane
Post by: kimmer on July 31, 2010, 12:31:21 PM
Post by: dboh on July 31, 2010, 06:13:49 PM
QUOTE(Frances144 @ Jul 31 2010, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a well-sized watermark. Sadly her skills lie in removing it.
Nice Web site. But that's a puny watermark. I could get rid of it pretty quickly.
Here's a low-res version of a stock photo I bought years ago (houses usually let you download low-res versions for comps; they watermark it so it can't be misused). Aside from the fact the resolution isn't good, it'd take quite an effort to remove it.
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It's not the best example, but it does you the size of a watermark. If the photo had been a close-up of a horse, for instance, they'd have slapped the watermark right on his body.
Post by: Frances144 on August 01, 2010, 07:13:48 AM
Right, off to make a huge Eff-off WATERMARK!
Post by: gunug on August 01, 2010, 05:23:12 PM
Post by: jcarter on August 01, 2010, 07:05:30 PM
But Im not really sure how, and if I need to do this with our family stuff. As we all have Flickr, Pbase and more album sites.
And we also have our own sites where I put up tons of pictures. I like that better, as its a bit more private, like who on FB wants to look at kids and pets.
But its all there for us to use! All of it, and we most likely have many on various sites.
Even this old Granny has a FB site, tho I don't use it much.
Jane