Post by: LR827 on September 26, 2010, 11:04:46 AM
Hardware Overview:
Machine Model: PowerBook G4 15"
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (3.3)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 1 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB
L3 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB
Memory: 512 MB
Bus Speed: 133 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.5.3f2
Thanks, as always,
Lorraine
Post by: Paddy on September 26, 2010, 11:19:25 AM
Your PB's specs are here: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powe...ook_g4_1.0.html
The RAM is relatively cheap: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20Wor...g/133SO512328L/
Post by: LR827 on September 27, 2010, 10:02:40 AM
I think the maximum I can upgrade is 10.4.11 because I read somewhere after I sent this that I my PB G4 has a PowerPC processor and the 10.5+ require the Intel processor. Is it still possible to purchase a 10.4.11? I keep being referred to Leopard software, but that won't work.
Lorraine
Post by: jchuzi on September 27, 2010, 10:16:17 AM
Post by: chriskleeman on September 27, 2010, 04:05:01 PM
Jon and Paddy are correct. You can go to 10.5.8 on that machine. They are also correct that you will need to max out the RAM. OS 10.4.x discs have been getting quite scarce, but if you are going to want to run Classic for any OS 9 applications, as Paddy suggested, you can only do that in 10.4.x, and not in Leopard, 10.5.x
Happy Hunting!
Chris
Post by: LR827 on September 28, 2010, 09:21:33 AM
Lorraine
Post by: jchuzi on September 28, 2010, 10:22:50 AM
QUOTE(chriskleeman @ Sep 27 2010, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OS 10.4.x discs have been getting quite scarce, but if you are going to want to run Classic for any OS 9 applications, as Paddy suggested, you can only do that in 10.4.x, and not in Leopard, 10.5.xHappy Hunting!Chris
Many flavors of OS 8, 9 and X are available at FastMac but some are exorbitantly priced. Be sure that you get a generic version (black label). Machine-specific versions (gray label) will only work in the exact model for which they were issued. If you look on eBay, the same precaution applies.
Post by: LR827 on September 28, 2010, 10:54:14 AM
Installation Requirements:
Power Macintosh G4 867 Mhz or faster, G5 or Intel based Macintosh
DVD Drive
512MB of physical RAM
It looks like my PPC processor will not work with 10.5, unless there is something else I need to do to upgrade it? Otherwise, I should get 10.4, yes?
Post by: Paddy on September 28, 2010, 11:21:50 AM
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Power Macintosh G4 867 Mhz or faster, G5 or Intel based Macintosh
And that's a LOT of money to pay for 10.5.
Try eBay - there are some Buy it Now auctions for less:
http://cgi.ebay.com/MAC-OS-X-10-5-1-LEOPAR...f#ht_600wt_1139
NOTE: make sure the disk looks like the one in this auction (universe pic - black & purple) NOT plain gray, which means it's a system specific disk and will NOT work on your Mac - your Powerbook shipped with a much older version of OS X.
Post by: chriskleeman on September 28, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
QUOTE(LR827 @ Sep 28 2010, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I ordered the extra 1 GB ram at OWC. They also said 10.5.x would work on my machine, and recommended I look on Amazon. They did not have it, so I went to MegaMacs. They have 10.5.6 new for $249 but at the very bottom of the specs, it says
Installation Requirements:
Power Macintosh G4 867 Mhz or faster, G5 or Intel based Macintosh
DVD Drive
512MB of physical RAM
It looks like my PPC processor will not work with 10.5, unless there is something else I need to do to upgrade it? Otherwise, I should get 10.4, yes?
Installation Requirements:
Power Macintosh G4 867 Mhz or faster, G5 or Intel based Macintosh
DVD Drive
512MB of physical RAM
It looks like my PPC processor will not work with 10.5, unless there is something else I need to do to upgrade it? Otherwise, I should get 10.4, yes?
Hi Lorraine,
I'm not sure what exactly is keeping you confused about whether or not Leopard will work in your PowerBook. As long as your PowerBook's G4 processor is 867mhz or faster, which yours is, at 1 Ghz, and you have a Combo Drive which will read DVD's, which your machine should have shipped with according the specifications I found, Leopard will work for you up to the last upgrade, 10.5.8.
The only reason not to get Leopard IMO, would be if you will be running any applications in Classic for OS 9, which is not supported in Leopard. The last OS X operating system to support Classic is Tiger, OS 4.11.
Paddy's advice on what particular discs to look for is correct, do not buy a grey one, you're looking for a black and purple retail full install. I just browsed through eBay, and there are several you could bid on, or get the one that Paddy linked to for a "Buy It Now".
HTH,
Chris
Post by: Texas Mac Man on September 28, 2010, 08:10:33 PM
Possible Alternative if you are currently using Panther 10.3 – Do a Google search for Tiger 10.4 Upgrade DVD . It will upgrade your 10.3 to 10.4, but it doesn’t contain the full retail Tiger installer. Should be cheaper than the retail Tiger install DVD.
After you install the base 10.4.x, update to the final Tiger version 10.4.11. Here's the link for the 10.4.11 combo update http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24901?viewlocale=en_US
Look at this link Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger Installing Software Support Page
http://www.apple.com/support/tiger/install/
You can also download the Tiger Installation and Setup Guide
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Tiger_Ins...Setup_Guide.pdf
When you upgrade the OS, do it via Archive & Install. See About the Archive and Install feature http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1710
Be sure to select Preserve Users & Settings. Also, repair permissions before and after the install.
Post by: LR827 on September 28, 2010, 08:43:28 PM
But you must admit, the way it is written...
Well, Texas Mac, thank you for all the links. It looks like I can get Leopard after all. Thank you all so much!!
Lorraine