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Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: ADSR on February 23, 2011, 08:04:13 PM
Random   quits from Firefox and sometimes Kernel panic... sad.gif

Mac OS X Version 10.4.11 (assemblage 8S165)
2011-02-24 02:50:19 +0100
2011-02-24 02:50:20.278 loginwindow[107] FSResolveAliasWithMountFlags returned err = -35
2011-02-24 02:50:20.338 loginwindow[107] LoginItems LSOpenFromURLSpec return err = -10825
2011-02-24 02:50:22.239 loginwindow[107] FSResolveAliasWithMountFlags returned err = -43
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'ACL::Exception'
  what():  OSStatus exception
Feb 24 02:50:34 power-mac-g4-de-georges-rodi-3 diskarbitrationd[55]: SystemUIServer [230]:27139 not responding.
2011-02-24 02:50:34.339 SystemUIServer[230] lang is:fr
Workaround Bonjour: Unknown error: 0
2011-02-24 02:50:46.747 CleanMyMacHelperTool[146] Deleted /Volumes/lexar 225/.DS_Store
2011-02-24 02:50:53.359 GrowlHelperApp[246] CFLog (0):
   CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): plist parse failed; the data is not proper UTF-8. The file name for this data could be:
   /Users/georgesrodi/Library/Cookies/Cookies.plist
   The parser will retry as in 10.2, but the problem should be corrected in the plist.
Feb 24 02:51:21 power-mac-g4-de-georges-rodi-3 crashdump[265]: Finder crashed

Don't really understand...

Something to  do from that crash log ?

Thanks

GR

Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: Paddy on February 23, 2011, 09:04:33 PM
Working backwards, George - have you tried removing the .plist that it's complaining about? It will be recreated - you will lose some website cookies, of course - but that may correct that problem.

As for the other bit - the "FSResolveAliasWithMountFlags" - sounds like something in your startup items is wonky. Do you have "CleanMyMacHelperTool in there? If so, I'd take it out of your startup items and see if that helps. Not sure about the GrowlHelperApp either...

Also, have you repaired permissions and also run Verify Disk (just to be sure there aren't any directory errors)?


Discussion of the FSResolveAliasWithMountFlags message:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=69444
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: Xairbusdriver on February 23, 2011, 09:55:23 PM
Frankly, that's one of the easiest to read log files I've seen. Unfortunately, it still doesn't help me! blush-anim-cl.gif It is obvious that the Finder crashed, but I think that is simply the end result of all the previous errors. Some of the other lines are basically reports of what some app did. But deleting a .DS_Store file is hardly a problem, especially from a thumbdrive. But these reports are not really made for mere users to understand, anyway.

But, if you see any particular app appearing in a series of logs, that might be a good place to start moving plists to a "Removed plist" folder and then do a Restart to get a clean one.

However, since you have several third-party "Startup Items" in your account, try logging in/starting up in another account, especially one that has nothing but the standard Apple stuff in it. Then run FF and see how things go.
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: ADSR on February 24, 2011, 08:01:41 PM
DW ok...permissions ok too, removed the  bad .plist
Gonna try to look more precisely to crash logs to see if there's an application involved to trash the .plist .

Thanks for the infos

GR

Firefox quit 10 minutes ago... smile.gif
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: jchuzi on February 25, 2011, 07:26:44 AM
I don't know of any app that removes Firefox plists but you can do it manually.

Firefox stores preferences, bookmarks, etc. in a way that is not kosher as far as Apple apps are concerned. Look in ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox to see all that stuff (a ton of it). You can play with those things by quitting Firefox, moving a likely culprit to the desktop, launching Firefox, and then seeing what happens. That way, you can always put the file back instead of trashing it.
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: Xairbusdriver on February 25, 2011, 09:43:24 AM
QUOTE
Firefox quit 10 minutes ago...
Was that in your regular account or after you logged into a 'testing' account?
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: ADSR on February 25, 2011, 04:21:09 PM
It was on my regular account... gonna try  in safe mode  to see

GR

Later..

Kernel  whith 3 unaligned frame address... not mapped or invalid , stopping

Mac OS X Version 10.4.11 (assemblage 8S165)
2011-02-26 00:55:53 +0100
2011-02-26 00:55:54.185 loginwindow[251] FSResolveAliasWithMountFlags returned err = -35
2011-02-26 00:55:54.354 loginwindow[251] LoginItems LSOpenFromURLSpec return err = -10825
2011-02-26 00:55:56.455 loginwindow[251] FSResolveAliasWithMountFlags returned err = -43
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'ACL::Exception'
  what():  OSStatus exception
Workaround Bonjour: Unknown error: 0
2011-02-26 00:56:09.111 SystemUIServer[305] lang is:fr
2011-02-26 00:56:32.634 GrowlHelperApp[315] CFLog (0):
   CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): plist parse failed; the data is not proper UTF-8. The file name for this data could be:
   /Users/georgesrodi/Library/Application Support/WebFoundation/Cookies.plist
   The parser will retry as in 10.2, but the problem should be corrected in the plist.
Feb 26 00:57:09 power-mac-g4-de-georges-rodi-3 crashdump[333]: Finder crashed
Feb 26 00:57:11 power-mac-g4-de-georges-rodi-3 crashdump[333]: crash report written to: /Users/georgesrodi/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Finder.crash.log
Feb 26 00:57:56 power-mac-g4-de-georges-rodi-3 crashdump[337]: Finder crashed
Feb 26 00:57:57 power-mac-g4-de-georges-rodi-3 crashdump[337]: crash report written to: /Users/georgesrodi/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Finder.crash.log
Feb 26 00:58:56 power-mac-g4-de-georges-rodi-3 crashdump[340]: Finder crashed
Feb 26 00:58:58 power-mac-g4-de-georges-rodi-3 crashdump[340]: crash report written to: /Users/georgesrodi/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Finder.crash.log
Feb 26 00:59:56 power-mac-g4-de-georges-rodi-3 crashdump[343]: Finder crashed
Feb 26 00:59:58 power-mac-g4-de-georges-rodi-3 crashdump[343]: crash report written to: /Users/georgesrodi/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Finder.crash.log
Feb 26 01:00:56 power-mac-g4-de-georges-rodi-3 crashdump[346]: Finder crashed
Feb 26 01:00:58 power-mac-g4-de-georges-rodi-3 crashdump[346]: crash report written to: /Users/georgesrodi/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Finder.crash.log

Maybe easier to read for you ,  my reading , writing , and  understanding of english is not so good

 Thinking.gif

GR
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: krissel on February 26, 2011, 01:26:10 AM
Make sure browsers are closed and try removing:

/Users/georgesrodi/Library/Application Support/WebFoundation/Cookies.plist
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: ADSR on February 26, 2011, 04:40:53 AM
/Users/georgesrodi/Library/Application Support/WebFoundation/Cookies.plist

Could not find it.

In the application Support  folder there's no Webfoundation, whith a find , shows only " com.apple.WebFoundation.plist" that i removed , but no  Cookies.plist

Where could it be?

GR
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: jchuzi on February 26, 2011, 05:24:39 AM
Did you look in the right Library? I have that folder and file (dated 2003 so it's not peculiar to Snow Leopard). You may have looked in the Library at the root level of the drive rather than the one in your home folder (where it should be).

In addition, see this FineTunedMac thread in case you decide to bite the bullet.
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: ADSR on February 26, 2011, 09:15:34 AM
Home library folder...

application support...nothing about  WebFoundation

Search  : nothing also about  WebFoundation or Cookies.plist

The only thing found yersteday was      com.apple.WebFoundation.plist , removed now

Must be well hidden... how to find it?

GR
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: Paddy on February 26, 2011, 10:25:15 AM
Interesting choice of wording in the crash report:

QUOTE
The file name for this data could be:
/Users/georgesrodi/Library/Application Support/WebFoundation/Cookies.plist

Does that mean it might NOT be? Enquiring minds want to know...

I don't have that WebFoundation folder either, Jon, and according to this thread on the Apple discussions, it's not there by default:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?t...=0&tstart=0

Maybe you should try an archive and install, George. Looks like it can be a difficult problem to solve for some reason or other.
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: ADSR on February 26, 2011, 01:25:18 PM
Archive and install... sweatingbullets.gif

Never done it..would be the last  solution if i don't find another.

The crashs are always from Firefox (speening wheel ) , Safari..
one time had a kernel  whith the  mac Screensaver  in random pictures mode

Seems also  always related to browsers  ,sometimes crash  watching  videos... never  in other programs

Is there maybe an update for the vidéo card ?

NVIDIA GeForce2 MX :

  Modèle de jeu de puces :   GeForce2 MX
  Type :   Moniteur
  Bus :   AGP
  Logement :   SLOT-1
  VRAM (totale) :   32 Mo
  Fournisseur :   nVIDIA (0x10de)
  Identifiant du périphérique :   0x0110
  Identifiant de révision :   0x00b2
  Révision de la ROM :   1055
  Moniteurs :
L1715S :
  Résolution :   1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz
  Profondeur :   Couleurs 32 bits
  Core Image :   Non géré
  Moniteur principal :   Oui
  Miroir :   Désactivé
  Connecté :   Oui
  Quartz Extreme :   Géré

GR


Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: jchuzi on February 26, 2011, 04:05:03 PM
Archive & Install is a piece of cake. I have never had to do it for myself (knock wood) but I did it for a neighbor after exhausting all other remedies. I checked the box to preserve user settings and let it go. 40 minutes later, everything came up as it had been and everything was working. Nothing was lost and she was a happy camper.

The only extra work involved using Software Update to get her back to the latest OS version, as well as other versions of Apple software that had been updated since the original installation.

Let me add one more thing:  Run a directory check before you A&I. You can use Disk Utility's Repair Disk function or, better still, use a third-party utility. Disk Warrior is my favorite but Drive Genius and TechTool Pro are also good choices. If the directory is damaged, A&I may make matters worse, possibly necessitating Erase&Install. You definitely don't want to have that happen. E&I is a royal PITA.
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: krissel on February 27, 2011, 12:44:39 AM
It may be totally unrelated but go into your System Prefs and open Growl and turn it off.  See if that makes any difference. I had to disable it on my setup because it was causing problems including crashing some apps.

Regarding cookies, there are many related to Firefox.  As Jon said, your Profile in /Users/georgesrodi/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/(odd number and letters-default)/  will contain a few files related to cookies.

They are:
cookies.sqlite
cookies.sqlite-journal
permissions.sqlite

More info on Firefox files in Profile folder:  http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Firefox#Files

There is also a general plist for Firefox:  /Users/georgesrodi/Library/Preferences/org.mozilla.firefox.plist though I doubt it is involved.
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: ADSR on February 27, 2011, 12:28:59 PM
cookies.sqlite
cookies.sqlite-journal
permissions.sqlite

Removed them... put back  permissions.sqlite for my email access

Among these is there something to remove..?

[attachment=2143:plug_firefox.jpg]

No Kernel untill now... just some quits

GR

Another kernel... watching a vidéo

panic(cpu 0 caller 0x0028DF44): mget MCHECK: m_type=1 m=32b24600
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
      Backtrace:
         0x000954F8 0x00095A10 0x00026898 0x0028DF44 0x0027BEF0 0x005B500C 0x005B5424 0x005D0670
         0x005CB07C 0x002D1B8C 0x002D0A54 0x000A9714
      Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
         com.apple.iokit.AppleGMACEthernet(1.4.2f1)@0x5c9000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.5.0)@0x5aa000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x491000
         com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.5.0)@0x5aa000
Proceeding back via exception chain:
   Exception state (sv=0x37979280)
      PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: krissel on March 02, 2011, 02:32:24 AM
Are you using an Airport card? The last kernel panic suggests something is wrong there or in your networking connections.

Tested your RAM lately?

Go through this page and look at the tests for RAM as well as other possibilities.

http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/kernelpanics.html
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: ADSR on March 02, 2011, 04:39:13 AM
I'm not using an airport card...

receiving  by WIFI  , a cable coming from an external antenna connected to a Belkin box plugged into the Ethernet port, installed by a friend ...i'm too bad whith these kind of things

Ram was tested , nothing wrong

Just upgrade to Firefox 3.5.17...seems faster , but always some quits

GR
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: krissel on March 03, 2011, 01:39:38 AM
Could you try using an ethernet cable instead of WiFi as a test?
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: ADSR on March 03, 2011, 06:25:52 AM
There's an ethernet cable from the Belkin to the Mac...

GR
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: Texas Mac Man on March 03, 2011, 08:11:56 AM
Don't know if it will cure your problem, but I'm using version 3.6.13 with Tiger. You could try an update to this version.
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: jchuzi on March 03, 2011, 08:16:37 AM
QUOTE(Texas Mac Man @ Mar 3 2011, 09:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't know if it will cure your problem, but I'm using version 3.6.13 with Tiger. You could try an update to this version.
Version 3.6.14 is now available.
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: krissel on March 04, 2011, 02:17:13 AM
I'm confused.  Where is the WiFi part?  Thinking.gif
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: ADSR on March 04, 2011, 05:07:05 AM
I'm receiving from a  far away house in the village whith  an  external antenna connected by a  cable to the Belkin,   the Belkin connected to the Mac whith an ethernet cable.
So lost in the country... too far to get an ADSL connection  ,  apart satellite...
Maybe wifi is not the right word smile.gif

GR

Once upgraded to 3.6.14 ...things are going much better, no quits, spinning wheel  or  kernel today whistling.gif
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: ADSR on March 06, 2011, 10:18:38 AM
Update to 3.14...works one day ok, now on 3.6.15 some quits   came back

Something wrong whith flash

[attachment=2153:ff.jpg]

Actually 10.1 r 102 is , not so clear about which version is ok for Tiger...


GR
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: krissel on March 07, 2011, 12:45:45 AM
Some info on Flash on Firefox here:

https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Managi...0Flash%20plugin

QUOTE
Note: The latest Flash player no longer supports PPC Macs. Instead, use Flash 10.1.102.64 which can be found in this archive


This link will download that Flash version:

http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flash...9.0_archive.zip

This discussion might be of help:

http://support.mozilla.com/oc/questions/719322

and this:

http://discussions.info.apple.com/thread.j...54&tstart=0
Title: Firefox 3.5.16 crashing/Tiger
Post by: ADSR on March 07, 2011, 06:46:17 PM
thanx.gif  for the links...

Could upgrade  Flash to the last version , but Firefox had  always some random  " don't respond" spinning wheel. quits , or force quit

GR