Post by: kimmer on September 21, 2011, 01:41:55 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 21, 2011, 09:49:02 PM
Have no use for either one. But they sure have a "use" for those that join! 
Post by: chriskleeman on September 21, 2011, 11:43:36 PM
Just one man's opinion.
CK
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 22, 2011, 08:38:20 AM
, is that it simply a means to get attention by most of the page owners. People want to feel important. "Celebrities" are worshiped because they get attention and they get attention because we think they are important and they are important because the get attention and... So, if you have a page on the World Wide Web, you must be "important." And you can 'prove' it because you have "followers" just like those "celebrities!"The genius in the plan is that the owners of these places can gather amazing amounts of highly valuable information, at least in the aggregate, for nothing more than the cost of the hardware! Plus they can make money by providing a venue for other companies to put their name in front of millions of faces, again at a ridiculously low cost by the site owners. Bottom line, it's just a money-making business that feeds off the baser desires of the public. Doesn't have to be evil, but it has lots of possibilities for abuse. And then there are the security issues... But when humans (even me!) find something we value for nothing, most of us simply take it without seriously considering the ultimate consequences.
Besides, "Everybody's doing it!" That always sounded like a valid reason when we were oh so young!
If you can tap into some uses that promote a real service, like your legitimate business or even a cause that helps others, more power to you.
And there are hundreds of thousands of people simply staying in contact with friends and family members, that's a useful service, of course. Just remember, "There ain't no free lunch." Every user is paying something for these sites, it is just not always obvious. 
QUOTE("from my foretelling psychic powers")
I Just DON"T get it.
Most will say it's simply because we're too old.
I say it's because I'm too paranoid (and too old!) and cynical.
Of course, our highly concerned and honest legislators will protect us from any nefarious activities by these corporate giants...
Post by: daryl66 on September 22, 2011, 11:52:34 AM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Sep 21 2011, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Won't bother me, either way. Have no use for either one. But they sure have a "use" for those that join!
Have no use for either one. But they sure have a "use" for those that join! The "Choir" is in total agreement.
I Just DON"T get it.
Daryl
Post by: gunug on September 23, 2011, 06:11:53 AM
Post by: Jack W on September 23, 2011, 06:55:20 AM
FWIW
Jack
Post by: Johanbgoot on September 23, 2011, 10:04:26 AM
(Inter-) prefix: 1 between; among : interagency | interblend. 2 mutually; reciprocally : interactive.
Personal: involving the actual presence or action of a particular individual.
Johan
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 23, 2011, 11:54:16 AM
][another note to the admins: maybe I should post this on the Community side?]
I just posted in the "Recent Updates" thread about an updated (for Lion) utility. The email I got from the developers was all excited about the update and their newly remodeled website. To 'celebrate,' they are giving away an iPad 2 to two winners. Then the kicker: "All you need to do to participate in the competition is like us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter."
So, they are not 'celebrating' by giving previous/current owners anything. They are simply awarding prices to two people who click their "Like" or "Follow" buttons at FB or Twitter. They even mention increasing ones chance by doing both. I suppose creating as many email alias' as possible and using all of those would also increase ones chances.
Such flagrant manipulation of a "contest" is nothing more than cheating, IMHO. I'm sure the developer's are only attempting to increase their rankings at both sites, I'm not sure they actually get any payments, but it shows that these sites are not only making money off us, but that they have convinced other companies to do the same. My question is, for how little will people sell be willing to "sell" themselves. Not for an actual iPad, how about just a chance to get one?
I'm positive that the vast majority of folks see absolutely nothing wrong with any of this and besides, "all that info is already out there." I recently attended a meeting of my 50th HS Reunion committee. There were several classmate guests there also. One thing being discussed was a "Memory Book" that printed graduation pictures, short bio's from those who volunteered them as well as any who managed to upload a current image. A friend had set up an account at classreport.org and that's where most of the info for the book was to be gathered. The site presented not only the above info but anything else the class member sent in; email address, home address, phone numbers, spouses name(s), children, etc. Naturally, some provided more info than others. The site also requires a log in password/ID.
One of the guests, a medical doctor, asked if the email address he submitted would be included in the printed book. The book committee didn't see why not. The doctor said he would not have offered his addy if he had known it would be shared publicly! I mentioned that a spreadsheet had been sent to everyone who had an email address from past reunions which included all that info, whether it had been sent to the web site admin or not. And since that was certainly not protected by anything more than what each recipient did with their copy, there was certainly no way to even suggest that all that data was not already "public." I also said I was not in the least worried that someone would break into my house and steal a 'memory book' in an attempt to gather the email address of a fellow classmate!
Eventually, it was decided to include only the bio, the city and state and two images of each classmate.
But I realized the extreme lack of awareness by my age group, anyway, of what information is already available, how it can be gathered and why security of our own PC's is so important. I seriously doubt that anyone even considered that the class web site could be accessed by someone. The mere lack of knowledge leads to a false sense of security re-enforced by a morality that would never think of blatant, dishonest behavior. Hopefully, most of these people at least lock their doors at night...
- Now, will somebody help an old man off his soapbox?
Post by: kimmer on September 23, 2011, 12:26:41 PM
RE: the HS ruination thing: I submitted my info to my HS yearbook update a few years back. What a disaster. I have heard from a couple of folks that I have enjoyed getting to know again, but I also heard from a stalker, a classmate trying to sell me stuff, and a classmate who wants to linkup at various professional sites. I kicked myself afterwards for even submitting the information.
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Sep 23 2011, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
[note to admins: we need a 'soapbox' smilie ]
]
CODE
:soapbox:
Post by: Jack W on September 23, 2011, 02:41:17 PM
But I don't see it on the smilie drop-down-box. Added: But now I know how to insert it thanks to kimmer!
AND , IAW Jim and Johan and Daryl and Chris !!!!
Jack
Post by: chriskleeman on September 23, 2011, 04:38:02 PM
It's down near the bottom, just about 3 under
2 under (XABD's favorite!) 1 under 
Chris
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 23, 2011, 05:27:22 PM
also, just haven't had much need for it lately...And the
has been there a while, I just couldn't see it when I'm standing on one!!! 
Post by: Jack W on September 23, 2011, 08:09:24 PM
Don't see any of those Chris.
Post by: kimmer on September 23, 2011, 08:29:12 PM
In "Fast Reply" click on the smilie face:
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In regular reply if you click the arrow, you should see this, and then click "Show All":
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Both will give you this nice long scrollable window.
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Enjoy all the
extras!Post by: Jack W on September 24, 2011, 06:06:35 AM
I finally got it. Guess I kept ignoring the "Show All".Sorry 
I finally got it. Guess I kept ignoring the "Show All".Sorry
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 24, 2011, 08:34:57 AM
QUOTE
I finally got it. Guess I kept ignoring the "Show All".Sorry I finally got it. Guess I kept ignoring the "Show All".Sorry
Looks like you found the secret "Duplicate All" also! 