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Archives => 2003 => Topic started by: Gary S on June 26, 2003, 04:26:30 PM

Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Gary S on June 26, 2003, 04:26:30 PM
I currently run OS9.1 on my Beige G3.

I just  got my Painter 8 upgrade so I can use it with OS 10.2.6.

It will also run with OS9.2.2 but not OS9.1.

I'd like to have it on both computers so I'm contemplating upgrading my System software
on the Beige G3 to 9.2.2.

Does anyone know if there are any issues with something not working if I upgrade to 9.2.2 from 9.1?

I thought I remembered something that Kelly or someone mentioned a while back and thought I'd check with TS before I hit the install button. unsure.gif

OS9.1
Beige G3 DT
Sonnet 500 Zif
Internal Zip Drive
40 Gig Maxtor 7200 HD/5 partitions
768MB Ram/VM off
32mb ATI Radeon Mac Edition Video Card
Keyspan USB-PCI Card
Belkin USB Hub
HP 932C Printer
UMAX 2000U Scanner
Iomega USB Disk Burner
ViewSonic 17" Graphic series, GS771 monitor
Logitech Optical USB
ADBMouse Apple Desktop Bus Mouse ll
Wacom Pad
Logitech Wingman USB Joystick
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: pendragon on June 26, 2003, 05:04:57 PM
Not exactly an answer to your question, but perhaps you will find the comments of 35 individuals who installed 9.2.2 to be of benefit.

http://download.com.com/3302-2283_4-808915....html?pn=3&fb=0

HTH

Harv
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Gary S on June 26, 2003, 10:14:50 PM
Thanks Harv.

Mixed reviews over there. wacko.gif

I just want to make sure my zip drive will work and my Iomega burner. I really need a new burner even though I have the built in one on the Quicksilver. That Iomega is dog slow.
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Epaminondas on June 26, 2003, 10:26:10 PM
Sounds like a roll of the dice . . .

You might want to install 9.2.2 on a separate partition first and see how it goes on your particular hardware/software for a while.


More of the same sort of thing as what Harve posted:

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/12765


Good luck -

Epaminondas
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Bernie on June 26, 2003, 10:42:02 PM
9.2.2 runs great GaryS. Additional Extensions for firewire and such. If you don't need the added inits. Simply uncheck them in the Extension Managers Control panel.
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: sandbox on June 26, 2003, 11:59:31 PM
Gary, I run OS9.2.1 on a Beige G3 though I have 9.2.2 it gave me problems.

Can’t say why or what they were specifically, but Techtools nor Norton could straighten them out. Driver conflicts in some cases, Conflict Catcher continued to find a broken System File. I didn’t have the time to thoroughly check it out, I just dumped it and went back to 9.2.1....... your mileage may vary. ph34r.gif
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: kbeartx on June 27, 2003, 02:16:07 AM
Since you asked, here's my $.02 -

I upgraded to 9.21 (from 9.1), then soon to 9.2.2.  

Ran it for several weeks or a month.  

I decided that it was somewhat less stable than 9.1 had been, so I went back to 9.1.

Since I had saved a copy of my entire system folder (on my backup volume) before I began the whole upgrade process, it was pretty easy - boot to a system seedie, swap and rename the SFs, copy a few prefs (such as my Stickies file and Pando Calendar stuff), and fix a few aliases.

But YMMV.  I have heard from and read about many people who find 9.2.2 to be as stable (or more) than 9.1 and / or 8.6.

 - kbeartx B)

Beige G3 400 MHz ZIF, 768MB RAM, 40GB 5400 RPM IBM, 80GB 7200 RPM WesternDigital, 17" Viewsonic A72f, AV card,  SBC Yahoo DSL - shared using a Linksys BEFSR11 and Linksys 5-port hub, 250 MB external SCSI Zip, Yamaha 8424 external SCSI CD burner 'Frankenstein', Kensington TurboMouse5, OS 9.1 and 10.1.5.
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Al on June 27, 2003, 04:53:28 AM
More input here, I have two beiges that run 9.2.2 for Classic in OS X.  No problems so far.  Once in a while my daughter has to boot into OS 9.2.2 to play games that don't run in Classic.  Seems to work fine.  But, less and less do I now boot into OS 9 since Jaguar.  98% of the time they are in OS X.
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Gary S on June 27, 2003, 07:40:52 AM
I do have another partition on the beige I can use...I think it's located within the first 8 gigs.
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Gregg on June 27, 2003, 07:44:05 AM
I have 9.2.2 on my beige G3 with internal Zip drive. I haven't had any problems. Well, none that I didn't cause myself.  blush-anim-cl.gif

I certainly haven't observed it being less stable than 9.1 was. If you're worried, follow kbear's prudent strategy.

Now as for Netscape 7.x ----  mad.gif
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Gary S on June 27, 2003, 03:02:47 PM
I put 9.2.2 on a partition annd so far it seems faster than 9.1.

I'll see if or when any conflicts show up...maybe I'll install it over 9.1 if it runs well.

A lot less HDD activity. I wonder if it's the new drivers?

Now it see if Painter 8 will install. It runs great on OS 10.2.6. smile.gif
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Gary S on June 27, 2003, 05:22:32 PM
Well,

I can't get my Logitech optical mouse to work or my Wacom USB tablet under 9.2.2. Not a problem under 9.1.  upset.gif  taped.gif
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Epaminondas on June 27, 2003, 05:59:34 PM
Logitech Mouse Support
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Gary S on June 27, 2003, 08:35:24 PM
Epaminondas,

I downloaded the latest drivers before and none of my USB works with OS9.2.2.

So, I installed Painter 8 under OS 9.2.2 into my Applications partition and then fired up
OS 9.1 and Painter 8 works fine with 9.1.....it just won't install under 9.1. wink.gif

Soooooo...I think I'll just wipe that partition with 9.2.2 clean. smile.gif
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Bill on June 27, 2003, 08:47:28 PM
"So, I installed Painter 8 under OS 9.2.2 into my Applications partition and then fired up
OS 9.1 and Painter 8 works fine with 9.1.....it just won't install under 9.1."

Hope this translation is correct:

So, I installed Painter 8 under OS 9.2.2 into my Applications partition and then fired up
OS 9.1 and Painter 8 works fine with 9.1.....it just won't install under 9.2.2.

"and then fired up OS 9.1" <-? Why 9.1.?

And RobW says I'm hard to understand. <gr>
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: RobW on June 27, 2003, 09:09:33 PM
QUOTE(Bill @ Jun 27 2003, 9:47 PM)
"...
And RobW says I'm hard to understand. <gr>

 Let's just say that sometimes things get a bit jumbled making their way from west to east.   wink.gif  tongue.gif
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Bill on June 27, 2003, 09:30:38 PM
Saw your reply Rob but was on a mission to find that error code bookmark. Nada!
Can't be my imagination going south can it? Nah! Remember posting it even. smile.gif
OR ... white suit guys again? <gr>
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Gary S on June 27, 2003, 10:54:39 PM
Bill,

When I got Painter 8 it said on the box that it was for 9.2.2 and up, including OS 10.2.

I tried to install it on 9.1 and it wouldn't install.....the installer said it could not find OS 9.2.2.

So I did a clean install of 9.2.2 onto and empty partition I had on the Beige G3.

Problem was none of my USB stuff would work on OS9.2.2 on the G3. So I booted into 9.2.2 and installed Painter 8 onto another Partition that I keep my applications on.

Then I booted into 9.1 and Painter worked fine and so did all of my USB stuff.

It's confusing.  unsure.gif  wacko.gif  biggrin.gif
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: sandbox on June 27, 2003, 11:10:10 PM
Mac OS 9.2.1 Update Just in case you need it. B)
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Bill on June 28, 2003, 01:25:05 AM
There coming to take me away .. ya ya .. there coming to take me away ... after reading that!<gr>

Lets take this one step at a time Gary,even though you've painter cooking.

QUOTE
When I got Painter 8 it said on the box that it was for 9.2.2 and up, including OS 10.2.
I tried to install it on 9.1 and it wouldn't install.....the installer said it could not find OS 9.2.2.

For 9.2.2. and up plus 10.2: That's the gold key phrase right there.

QUOTE
So I did a clean install of 9.2.2 onto and empty partition I had on the Beige G3.

Don't really think you needed to do that.

QUOTE
Problem was none of my USB stuff would work on OS9.2.2 on the G3. So I booted into 9.2.2 and installed Painter 8 onto another Partition that I keep my applications on.

"So I booted into 9.2.2." The same 9.2.2. from the empty partition? Or do you have a 9.2.2. system in the applications partition?

Painter 8 apparently needs 9.2.2. and up to install all its Corn-Flakes in that system.
You were going to install painter 8 in the applications partition anyways.
Fine and dandy.
I just did a 'get info' on my 9.2.2. active partition = Used: 1,000.7 MB on disk.
My spare 9.2.2. stashed = 935 MBs

See where I'm heading towards Gary.

If you indeed do have a 9.2.2. in the applications partition, great.!.

What OS are your other apps/programs in that application partition in bed with anyways?

If not. Why not slap one in there.?.
Then create an alias of painter 8 and bring it over to your 9.1 partition.

Painter will be happy as a clam and your "USB stuff" as well.

NOW! That last sentence of yours!
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Then I booted into 9.1 and Painter worked fine and so did all of my USB stuff.

SAY WHAT!?! HOW!?! Naturally your "USB stuff" wasn't effected BUT where is painter 8 pulling its -Honey-Buns. Can I go out and play- stuff from? Can't be from the 9.1. system.
Taking a guess you have a 9.2.2. system in the applications partition.

If this is true. You could of created an alias of painter 8 >over to 9.1 ~~ done ~~.

If not.
There coming to take me away .. ya ya .. there coming to take me away. biggrin.gif
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Gary S on June 28, 2003, 10:31:56 AM
QUOTE
Taking a guess you have a 9.2.2. system in the applications partition.


No I don't have a System 9.2.2 on the Applications partition.

QUOTE
where is painter 8 pulling its -Honey-Buns. Can I go out and play- stuff from?


I guess it isn't. I didn't think about what it installed into the System folder.
Now I'm getting confused.

Later today, if I get a chance I'm going to install Painter 8 on the Quicksilver HD that has 9.2.2 on it. I have 2 HDDs on the QS, one for 10.2.6 and one for 9.2.2. I'll see how that get along.

It just occured to me though that since I have a hub and a Keyspan USB-PCI card in the Beige......I don't know. unsure.gif
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Bill on June 28, 2003, 04:17:53 PM
"I didn't think about what it installed into the System folder."

There lies the puzzle. If not for you,sure as do-do <-ya like that <gr> for me.
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Gary S on June 28, 2003, 10:35:54 PM
Bill,

The only things Painter 8 installs in the System folder are these that I got from the intallation Log:

Installed Other System:System Folder:Extensions:KODAK PRECISION CP1
Installed Other System:System Folder:Extensions:KODAK PRECISION ProfileAPI
Installed Other System:System Folder:Extensions:KodakCMSC
Friday, June 27, 2003 5:51 PM
The installation is complete.

Painter has always been good that way.....it doesn't install much in the System Folder. B)
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Bill on June 29, 2003, 06:30:26 AM
Painter 8 is not operating Gary S.
It's all a figment of you imagination. smile.gif
Title: OS 9.1 vs. OS 9.2.2
Post by: Gary S on June 29, 2003, 10:47:19 AM
Bill,

I know. huh.gif  biggrin.gif