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Archives => 2003 => Topic started by: Mayo on July 02, 2003, 12:23:34 PM

Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Mayo on July 02, 2003, 12:23:34 PM
I have successfully burned CDs in the past, but I don't do it very often and now I am winding up with empty folders on the CDs.  This has also occured in the past but I do not recall how I fixed the problem.

My first bit of confusion comes when I put a new CD in the drive.  I get a dailog box asking me if I want to format the CD, with an option to start-up Toast.  It isn't clear to me whether I should first format the CD and then start-up Toast, or do something else altogether.

I'm afraid that I haven't been able to find much help in the Toast manual...

So I guess that I need a little Hand Holding in order to accomplish something that any self-respecting 8th grader can do with their eyes closed!
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Gregg on July 02, 2003, 02:17:04 PM
No answer for you here, just empathy. I don't even have a CD-R drive, or know if that's the right terminology. I wouldn't have a clue how to put something on a CD.

Now, if the program to "burn" CDs is called Toast, the drive must be a Toaster. The manual for my toaster gives explicit instructions on how not to burn things. Times are a changing!

 wacko.gif
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: tacit on July 02, 2003, 02:53:10 PM
QUOTE(Mayo @ Jul 2 2003, 5:23 PM)
It isn't clear to me whether I should first format the CD and then start-up Toast, or do something else altogether.

 There are two ways to make a CD. One uses Toast. One does not.

If you want to use Toast:

1. Run Toast.
2. Drag the files into the Toast window.
3. Put in a blank CD.
4. Click the Burn button in Toast.

If you do not want to use Toast:

1. Put in a blank CD.
2. Format the CD.
3. Drag the files onto the CD.
4. Use the Special->Burn CD command.
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Bill on July 02, 2003, 03:18:38 PM
What Tacit posted mayo is just about it.

You get that dialog box asking you what do you want to do when you insert a blank.
If you know you want to use toast, fire up toast before you stick the blank in.


~~~ how many you"s did I put up there anyways ~~~ smile.gif geeezzz
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Mayo on July 02, 2003, 03:35:09 PM
I was probably doing things in the wrong sequence...I will give it a try using Tacit's info and report back about whether I am successful...or not!
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Mayo on July 03, 2003, 01:33:25 PM
Okaaay, I just burned a back-up CD and I have a couple of questions...  The burn was apparently successful, but when Toast verified the disk I got several errors and then the disk did not appear on the desktop nor could I eject the CD.

After restarting the iBook the CD appeared, I could eject it and there are folders on the CD.  I tried opening a couple of files and that went without a hitch.

When I select the CD a window appears with the folder inside, but the window states that 'zero k" is available on the CD, even though I did a write session and there should be several hundred MBs remaining on the disk.

Would someone mind letting me know if this is acceptable behavior on the part of Toast?
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: tacit on July 03, 2003, 02:26:45 PM
If Toast said there were errors on the disc, that means there were errors on the disc. Usually, this happens because you are burning too fast (use a slower burn speed in Toast), or because you are using a bad brand of blank CD.

There is a BIG difference between different brands of blank CD! TDK and Verbatim are among the best, memorex among the worst.

A CD, once it is recorded, will *always* show 0K available. It makes no difference if you fill ed the CD or not.

If you want to add more to a CD later, you must record it using the Toast "Write Session" button, not the "Write Disc" button. It will still show zero K free; you use Toast to record more information, which will appear on your desktop as a second CD (that is, you will insert the CD and TWO icons will show up--one for the first session and one for the second session).
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Mayo on July 03, 2003, 02:57:30 PM
Hi Tacit...

I use TDK CDs and burned the CD at 4x, the max for my iBook combo drive.
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: tacit on July 04, 2003, 10:01:31 PM
Try recording slower, or try a Verbatim CD instead.
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Gary S on July 04, 2003, 10:23:35 PM
I always use Verbatim CD-R's now. I'm convinced they are superior to the rest.
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Bill on July 04, 2003, 10:52:11 PM
"CD at 4x"
What's the point if he goes any slower? smile.gif
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: pendragon on July 05, 2003, 07:53:49 AM
This fixes (sometimes) a myriad of Toast v5.2 problems:

Click once on the application icon, Right Click or Control+Click on your mouse and select "Show Package Content". In this folder Open the "Contents" folder. Then Open MacOS Folder. Then delete the "Roxio.dat" file, empty the trash, restart the application and you will be ask to re-enter your serial number. That's it.

Harv
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Mayo on July 05, 2003, 12:29:56 PM
Harv,

I tried the steps that you suggested, but the only way I can access the Contents file is to just click through the Toast folder.  When I try to delete the Rox.dat file I get a window saying that "This command can not be used with the items in this package."

Control-clicking on the Toast app icon doesn't do anything but bring up the typical menu.
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Bill on July 05, 2003, 04:11:07 PM
You using a mouse or the pad mayo?
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Mayo on July 05, 2003, 04:20:33 PM
A meese...
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Bill on July 05, 2003, 04:32:18 PM
Hmmm..

You can't get a drop down menu like

this,no matter what?

Not sure if Harvs' idea will solve the problem but I'm confused on the drop menu bit now.
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: pendragon on July 06, 2003, 08:34:16 AM
Mayo, Try this:

Hold down the Control key and then click once on the Toast app. Do not release the Control key. A drop down menu will appear. Then, while still holding down the Control key, click on Show Package Contents. A new window should appear with two icons in it (Toast Titanium alias and a folder called Contents). Release the Control key. Double click on the Contents folder. In that are five items. Double click on the MacOS Folder. When that opens, drag the Rox.dat file to the trash. Empty trash. Restart. Repair Permissions.

When next you open Toast, it will ask for your serial/registration number. According to some, this technique (reportedly from Roxio) cures many ills. But will it solve this problem? I dunno.

Harv
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Bill on July 06, 2003, 11:52:09 AM
Just realized you're using OS 9 (aren't you?) Mayo.
So I took a snapshot in 9.


You can go by Harvs instructions or if you've a 'Contextual Menu Plugin' setup
for this action.
What I did notice is when you select 'show package contents' in 9,the actual app toast turns into the contents folder!
Rebooting turns it back to the application again.
I never knew that would happen.
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Mayo on July 07, 2003, 12:10:42 PM
Nope, doesn't work for me...  I do have FinderPop installed, so I turned it off but nothing changes.

Perhaps I should just reinstall Toast???
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Bill on July 07, 2003, 07:24:07 PM
Are we talking OS 8 or 9 Mayo?
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Bill on July 07, 2003, 07:56:22 PM
Mayo, I'm in OS 9 now.
I've looked around in the control panels trying to find anything that would remotely cause why you can't get that drop down menu. Nada that I can see.

What do you have in your contextual menu items folder?
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Mayo on July 08, 2003, 01:25:20 AM
Let's see...  Change Visibility, Find CM Items, Folder Actions Menus, MacLinkPlus™ CM, and UDFBridgeCMPlugin.
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Bill on July 08, 2003, 09:44:38 AM
Well. Appears you have all the basic CMs.?.
Without having to reread the entire thread again ... have you tried using the pad instead of a mouse
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Bill on July 08, 2003, 05:17:12 PM
Mayo.

I had to spend some time at my favorite office *NOT* for a short while.

Although I did have some time for jumping on the company powerbook to see if I could get the drop down menu with the PBs pad and a mouse.
Not only could I get the drop down menu, I rebooted into OS 9 [which is on the same drive. No partition] and was able to repeat the same in OS 9.

Took some snapshots and stuck them all on one file.
Sorry about the height! Fact the width maybe also. <gr>
Click Here

I'm beginning to wonder/think this problem with you not being able to get the drop down menu is at your end but not a human error.?.

As far as the original subject 'toast'?
Do you think maybe both the above and toast might be the same problem somehow?
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Mayo on July 11, 2003, 02:14:14 AM
Hey Bill, it finally worked!  After reading your last post  I tried accessing the Toast folder by clicking through the volume icon on the desktop vs. using Greg's Browser as I normally do. I thought that I had already tried this step, but something must have been different tonight when I did it again.  

G's Browser must interfere with the contextual menu because the Package Contents command never appears as an option.

But the ol' fashion way of accessing files works just fine, even with FinderPop enabled.

Now we just have to see if dumping that file does the trick...

thanx.gif
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Bill on July 11, 2003, 02:27:08 AM
Guess Greg's Browser was the bad boy then.
Hey. Over one hurtle. Now the next. smile.gif

See me ... zzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Trouble With Toast
Post by: Bill on July 11, 2003, 03:19:44 PM
Since you've found the culprit on the menu issue Mayo.
I need to 'clean house' on the server where I posted some of those pics.
They will be gone shortly. <gr>