Post by: kimmer on April 27, 2012, 10:58:46 PM
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Tec...ogy/USB2HB7PRO/
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Macally/TRIHUB7/
Post by: Xairbusdriver on April 28, 2012, 09:06:48 AM
The first and older model has no apparent brand markings! I'm sure the ones you linked to are auxiliary (wall-wart) powered.OK, my opinions on your two choices:
1. Hard to get too excited about these thing, I think that's what the flashing LEDs were supposed to do on the one I mentioned above!
2. Not sure the one with the 'fast charge' outlet is advisable. Note that it also lowers the amperage to the other six ports when used for charging.
3. The second one's advantage is more normal ports. Can you ever have too many?
That seven-port model mentions adhesive pads for mounting it somewhere. Just this week, mine decided to become less sticky and it now resides where it fell.
Of course half of one of the pads remains stuck to the side of what it is stuck to. All in all, the whole look adds to the cluttered, junky "atmosphere" I try to establish on my actual desk... 
Post by: chriskleeman on April 28, 2012, 09:38:49 AM
I'd go for the NewerTech myself. I've got several of their enclosures functioning perfectly for a long time now. It depends on what you need, having the charging port is a good feature IMO.
The only NewerTech product I ever had any trouble with was a G4 upgrade module that just didn't want to work with the machine I have, but everything I've seen from them is very good quality.
Having "resurrected" my daughter's old MacBook Pro for use in the studio, I am getting ready to "retire" my old G4, keeping it pretty much only to run those very rare times when I need Classic or OS9, and to help clean up the "mess" of drives and cords everywhere I may get one of the NewerTech USB hubs myself!
FWIW,
Chris
Post by: Xairbusdriver on April 28, 2012, 09:45:58 AM
My concern about the charging port is that using it will reduce the power supplied to all the other ports by about a third. (~315Ma vs. 500Ma) That may not be enough power for some devices like a hard drive. I bought an external CD burner for a dead one in a Mac mini we use at church. That burner requires using two USB ports since the mechanical motor and the laser need more than 500Ma. I'd hate to plug in an iPhone/etc. while a HD was being written to...
But I'm always a little paranoid! 
Here are some sites with reviews, be aware that they may be dated and/or duplicated.
<C|Net>
<Everything USB>
<toptenreviews>
Post by: chriskleeman on April 28, 2012, 10:46:02 AM
That NewerTech comes with a 4.0 Amp power supply
and one might not be necessarily connected to the "charging port" at all times anyway. And it's probably possible that all USB devices connected wouldn't all draw the maximum power from each port. That being said, that power supply is pretty huge, should be no problem powering all those ports at the same time, especially with the power already built into the computer.
While Belkin makes good stuff, the one in your link doesn't come with any external power supply. And that's always the rub with USB adapters, not enough power, without an external power supply. And the other one says it "needs external power"...
Your arithmetic is probably correct, but Newer says it can power all the ports at the same time... I just don't see anything out there that has that much external power available in a USB adapter. And the NewerTech includes the behemoth power supply!
Just one man's opinion...
Chris
Post by: Xairbusdriver on April 28, 2012, 04:47:38 PM
As for the charger issue, "powering" all at the same time" is not the same as "full power to all ports at the same time." They state "*if iPad connected for charging, supplied power to each port is 316mA" down in the specs. My concern is that a device may well operate with that little power, most of the time, but need closer to the max available at other times. If that need coincides with plugging in something to the high output port, the device needing more than 316mA may shutdown. That's not something you want to happen during a write operation to a hard drive. If it's a CD burner, all you'd be out might be that disk. A scanner might not be affected except the need to re-scan something. I just don't see the point of taking the risk of having to reformat a hard drive.
Another consideration is that USB 3 might be nice since the hub is being replaced.
Finally, I noticed I didn't include a link to the <$20 hub.
Fixed.
Post by: chriskleeman on April 28, 2012, 05:15:10 PM
I still don't see anything with a power supply that robust
especially at that price. And the Belkin was just the first one that popped up on the reviews on your first link
So, don't use the charging port while backing up a drive! But, a great option to have IMO.
CK
Post by: kimmer on April 28, 2012, 08:16:12 PM
My external drives are firewire, so not an issue, and I wouldn't use the sticky-feet, I'm funny that way.
Given my experience, I like that the NewerTech has a 1 year warranty. HA!
Thanks again. Order being placed.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on April 28, 2012, 09:43:20 PM
Post by: kimmer on April 28, 2012, 11:43:26 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Apr 28 2012, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But it will always be best to leave things plugged in for as long as possible.
I do, but some I have to remove in order to charge the unit via a wall socket. Oh well.
Went to order and it's backordered - 20 days or so. I'm back to looking.
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Maybe you can set up a little numbering system to keep up with how many times each port has been used and put a nice piece of duct tape over the most used port. I'd keep the info in a database and change the blocked port every 3.81 days (considering the humidity and salt air conditions on the left coast). You are
Post by: Paddy on April 29, 2012, 01:40:29 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817397019
Gets great reviews. Has a power adapter.
Or: http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-DUB-H7-High-S...4577&sr=8-1
Or this - a little more expensive, but the overall satisfaction rate is extremely high:
http://www.amazon.com/7-Port-USB-2-0-Hub-B...4724&sr=8-2
Post by: kimmer on April 29, 2012, 01:50:53 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on April 29, 2012, 02:54:43 PM
Whodathunk?
Post by: kimmer on April 29, 2012, 06:02:55 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Apr 29 2012, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looks like the cheaper they get the more problems they have. Whodathunk?
Whodathunk? An update: After reading several 5-star and 1-star reviews, I've opted to order the NewerTech. It will be a good month before it arrives, but I like OWC, and Chris's recommendation carries much weight. I've got 2 ports left that work in my current hub, and hopefully they'll keep working until the new unit arrives.
Thanks, everyone, for all the help.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on May 02, 2012, 10:47:08 AM
I suggest you buy ten of these (quantity discounts may be available
). Also buy one of these:<Tripp Lite TRPPS3612-Multiple 12 Outlet Power Strip w/15' cord>
Post by: kimmer on May 02, 2012, 12:54:39 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on May 02, 2012, 03:20:44 PM
Just think, you could have 120 USB ports! The switches would allow you to use any six for a week at a time. That way, you could spread the repeated plugging/unplugging between 20 different groups of six ports! Those things shouldn't wear out until 2025!!! And with that power strip, you'd still have two outlets unused! What a deel!!
Post by: chriskleeman on May 07, 2012, 03:08:00 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ May 2 2012, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm awlwheyz cirrious!!! Just think, you could have 120 USB ports! The switches would allow you to use any six for a week at a time. That way, you could spread the repeated plugging/unplugging between 20 different groups of six ports! Those things shouldn't wear out until 2025!!! And with that power strip, you'd still have two outlets unused! What a deel!!
Just think, you could have 120 USB ports! The switches would allow you to use any six for a week at a time. That way, you could spread the repeated plugging/unplugging between 20 different groups of six ports! Those things shouldn't wear out until 2025!!! And with that power strip, you'd still have two outlets unused! What a deel!! Just for yucks I emailed customer support for the Satechi, and this is the reply I got back regarding the power supply:
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The power adapter’s input is 100-240V~ with an output of 5V 2000mA. As far as the hub itself, each port has a 5Volt 250 mA output and the total amount of power going to the hub may not surpass 2 Amps.
Chris K
Post by: Xairbusdriver on May 07, 2012, 06:31:17 PM
I was thinking that USB already had a 500mA limit per port.
But Satechi is saying they'll only give you half that and even then you shouldn't draw more than 2 amps? That could easily be done without even using all ten ports, if my simple math is correct. OTOH, if you daisy-chained 10 hubs, you'd lose 1 port on nine of them, so you wouldn't really have 100 ports to "play" with... only 91! Better buy 11 hubs, I guess. 
Post by: kimmer on May 30, 2012, 08:35:22 PM
QUOTE(kimmer @ Apr 29 2012, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
An update: After reading several 5-star and 1-star reviews, I've opted to order the NewerTech. It will be a good month before it arrives, but I like OWC, and Chris's recommendation carries much weight. I've got 2 ports left that work in my current hub, and hopefully they'll keep working until the new unit arrives.
Well ... a good month was correct. Hub was back ordered a 2nd time and finally shipped out just a few minutes ago. I might have it before June is over?
