Post by: Paddy on February 19, 2013, 09:49:51 PM
And the real insult is that the price has been raised on Office 2011. Two year old software...
One more reason to use LibreOffice or Pages/Numbers/Keynote. I refuse to send M$ money every year.
The loss of the family pack perpetual license is, for me, the most annoying. Normally we have it installed on at least 4 computers, using a family pack and one version from my husband's work (where they get a license for home use for $10).
Post by: sandbox on February 23, 2013, 12:31:00 PM
We're in the same ice bound boat it seems.
Though we have had the family pack for years, I've kept up with Neo-Office as well, just to keep my hand in it...and fingers crossed.
Have you used LibreOffice, is their a worthwhile difference between the two?
Try as I may, using "Pages/Numbers/Keynote" on the government/legal/medical documents has been a challenge through the years, which is mostly what has kept us in MS Office... (formatting is the major issue) I've struggled to keep a Mac Office for the past 15 years, though better now, still challenging at times.
Randy Singer has been a helpful resource through the years, and in balance I think the problems I had were far fewer and less intrusive than the security problems that everyone around me had been challenged with time and again.
I would pay good money to be done with MS entirely, but I can never turn my back on them because others use their products and share them with me.
All good wishes.
Post by: Paddy on February 23, 2013, 08:12:47 PM
LibreOffice is free, so you can just download it and give it a whirl. I have it - but since I have Orifice 11, and spend half my life trading docs with PC users, I don't tend to use the freebies much, since typically there are more compatibility issues. I have used NeoOffice and LibreOffice for things like opening WordPerfect files - which MS Office cannot do.
Post by: krissel on February 24, 2013, 12:20:23 AM
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Hi Mark!
Post by: sandbox on February 24, 2013, 12:54:51 AM
We have to do Power-Point presentations created by others that work well on a MBP using Office, but not so well in other software.
I'm in the process of testing a PP conversion application for the Samsung Galaxy note 10.1, if that works out well Jane would smile.
I suppose if I needed 5 issues of MS Office $99 bucks a year wouldn't be a deal breaker, but at best I could use 2 now and 3 when all my Intel Mac's are moved into the Lion's den.
All these Offerings, especially the cable and TV providers, have optimized their businesses around the calculation that you will buy more than you use, MS and even Apple are no different. I've always praised the fact that Apple loads a lot of software into their hardware, but there is software that I'll never use. One has to ask, why 5 issues of MS Office and not 4 or 6? "Someguy", with a head the size o a watermelon calculated that most businesses use either 3 issues of MS office or 6 which will either over issue or under issues the needs of the public so they can capitalize on the average business requirement. We know this is happening and are helpless to do a darn thing to change it. ;-)
Post by: sandbox on February 24, 2013, 01:15:43 AM
I use Google doc in our Android phones, and there are many Office aps that handle MS products on android including a most resent release b MS itself.
Hope all-swell with you and yours, it's pretty amazing how a storm event can refocus all your attention. Our storm-season is about to begin. ;-)
all good wishes
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The comments after this article are very telling.
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Hi Mark!
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Hi Mark!
Post by: sandbox on February 26, 2013, 04:04:06 AM
http://neowiki.neooffice.org/index.php/Neo...ture_Comparison
If either of these offering would actually build replacement for MS with duplicate formatting I'd pay $100 bucks or more.
If folks really want to deter MS from this sort of business practice, they could, by supporting the alternative projects, I suspect.
Only two people work on NeoOffice part time and they correct any problems in weeks time, V Libre's 4-6 week fixes.
Just sayin
Post by: sandbox on February 26, 2013, 04:30:10 AM
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My wife always used MarinerWrite to open/edit/save .doc and .docx stuff. But I noticed last week that they were opening in Pages. I think that occurred when I upgraded her MBP to Mountain Lion (which she barely noticed).
The problem is that Pages/Apple assumes you want to convert the .doc to .pages. That means one has to remember to use "Save as...". EVERY SINGLE TIME THE DOCUMENT IS ReSAVED!!! (I know, but she has been able to finally create the habit of Saving often... ) This thread reminds me to change the default app to open .doc files back to MW! Judy doesn't understand why Pages works that way, and I can't give her a logical reason, anyway.
She has used Google Docs for a shared spreadsheet (that, of course, should have been a database ), but she still grasping that document doesn't live on her hard drive.
The problem is that Pages/Apple assumes you want to convert the .doc to .pages. That means one has to remember to use "Save as...". EVERY SINGLE TIME THE DOCUMENT IS ReSAVED!!! (I know, but she has been able to finally create the habit of Saving often...
) This thread reminds me to change the default app to open .doc files back to MW! Judy doesn't understand why Pages works that way, and I can't give her a logical reason, anyway.She has used Google Docs for a shared spreadsheet (that, of course, should have been a database
), but she still grasping that document doesn't live on her hard drive. Post by: Xairbusdriver on February 26, 2013, 10:52:59 AM
I discovered that MarinerWrite needs a plugin/or something to even read a Word doc. I may have deleted that months ago. Not sure which will be easier; getting MW working again or having Judy learn to use the frustrating 'Save as..." function in Pages!
