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Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 14, 2013, 06:31:31 PM
You can see more details at <the Update site.> Who'll be the first one to spill blood by living on the bleeding edge?! eek2.gif laughhard.gif
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: chriskleeman on March 14, 2013, 09:22:28 PM
ooooohhhh, a challenge! Maybe I'll upgrade over the weekend!!!

CK toothgrin.gif notworthy.gif Devilish2.gif
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: kimmer on March 14, 2013, 11:27:43 PM
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The ability to redeem iTunes gift cards in the Mac App Store using your Mac's built-in camera


First thought: Seriously?

Second thought: Time to cover up the camera on my iMac.


PS: I'll wait for Chris to give it a trial run.  tongue.gif
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 15, 2013, 10:32:15 AM
QUOTE("chris")
Maybe I'll upgrade over the weekend!!!
I'll be monitoring the seismic activity in the New England area... laughhard.gif
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: Al on March 16, 2013, 03:11:23 AM
I'm still on 10.6.8..... LOL..... do you folks like the new OS?  Is it worth the upgrade?  I bought it, installed it, but, went back cause of a few hiccups that I forget now why...
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: jchuzi on March 16, 2013, 05:41:08 AM
I'm also still on 10.6.8. As far as I'm concerned, neither Lion (which my machine can handle) nor Mountain Lion (which it can't) offer anything in functionality. Snow Leopard is the most stable OS that I have ever used and I don't, ever, want to use the Cloud. The only reason to upgrade (that I can think of) is the fact that Apple has basically stopped supporting SL. True, there are some security and java updates, but eventually that will stop. At that point, I'll have to get a new computer that will run whatever OS is current. Current? That seems to change every year.
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: RobW on March 16, 2013, 07:59:45 AM
I did it the other day. I've not noticed any difference--yet--good or bad. The only issue was that the download/install took a bit longer than I would have liked. But, I guess I should have thought of that before I hit the "download/install" button!
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 16, 2013, 09:05:43 AM
[opinion]Actually, the "Cloud" is a terrible name for what it really is. We already were using the "Cloud" well before the name was invented. It's nothing more than another computer that is accessed by the intermess. Many of us have done that with our bank/credit cards for dozens of years. Email is actually stored in the "Cloud" and always has been with your ISP. If you have a web site, guess where it's located (of course, you might have your own server in the house dntknw.gif )? Your iTunes and and App Store purchases are still in that "Cloud," also. Of course, TS is 'hosted in the cloud,' for that matter. wink.gif

Then there are the data storage sites. These are the places that most people think of, now, as the "Cloud." I really appreciate DropBox for allowing me to provide sometimes very large files for a few people. However, this "cloud" is still just a bunch of computers sitting in some room, just like we've been using the Internet since the beginning! The biggest difference is that those computers are more monitored, redundant and reliable than they used to be.

The "Cloud" is not the silver bullet its creators (actually just marketers) hoped, of course. We like to have control of anything we think of as ours. If we can't physically touch, or at least see our stuff, we have feel a loss of control. Some of us parents had similar feelings when we saw our kids driving off in our car! eek2.gif

I suspect that most of us have lost data on our drives or computers; they do crash/die/wear out. Some of us have UPSs that usually allow shutting down the computer in an orderly manner. And even if you've never lost any data yourself, you have undoubtedly seen reports of that at TS. My point is that, since we know these things can happen, we think it will happen in that "cloud!" While I don't yet store all my data in that badly named storage space called the "Cloud," I know that more and more people and even a few businesses are. Even large businesses build their own versions of a 'cloud' just to get the safety provided by using widely separated locations for data and users.

Now, if you'll all just send me your bank and/or credit card info, I'll put it on my own hard drives, located firmly on the desk in my house. Absolutely no 'clouds' involved! Well, my brain becomes a little 'cloudy' at times, but I can guarantee 100% protection of your data, as long as I'm in the room, and the power is on, and there are no tornadoes approaching, and the creek don't rise too much, and... laughhard.gif   [/opinion]
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: RNKIII on March 16, 2013, 09:50:25 AM
I can see that you are working on that 'silver lining' for your 'cloud' storage,ABD...

Good analogy/opinion, I agree we probably all use the/a 'cloud' in some way each day. And like you, I don't want to allow my personal data to be hung out there somewhere, which is why we've not moved our Geneology files to any of the online/cloud sites.  Not yet comfortable enough with that.

Thanks for the opinion ABD, I've just about got all my banking & cc data together to send, but it's pretty cloudy here today, so I'll wait for a sunnier day...

Bob K.  rnkiii
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 16, 2013, 10:25:37 AM
Never forget that wise saying, "Every silver lining has a dark cloud inside it!" Not to be confused with an equally valid if more up-to-date statement, "Into each life a few random bits will fall!" scram.gif
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: chriskleeman on March 18, 2013, 10:07:57 AM
Haven't had the time to take the plunge XABD, but I did learn two new words this weekend, which may or may not help with the upgrade:
Cyclogenesis, Bombogenesis

Chris  toothgrin.gif
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 18, 2013, 11:33:54 AM
OK, where/how/why does the world need those new words?!!!!

Well, I've probably flown through those things without even knowing it!!!
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 18, 2013, 12:13:57 PM
I'm sure there will be a few apps that will need updating, that's almost a given with updates, but I've heard one report that URLM Pro is working normally, again, with 8.3! It's been one of my most valued apps for bookmarking but quit working reliably with 8.2. So badly that I've searched, in vain, for a replacement. If more people report success, I'll consider the update a priority for that reason, alone!! clap.gif
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: kimmer on March 18, 2013, 12:27:24 PM
Let us all know, because I refuse to jump up until either Chris or xABD does. wink.gif
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 18, 2013, 03:14:13 PM
WIMP!! tongue.gif scram.gif
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: kimmer on March 18, 2013, 06:15:04 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Mar 18 2013, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WIMP!! tongue.gif scram.gif

yes.gif toothgrin.gif
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 18, 2013, 08:26:55 PM
<More info on the Update at TidBITS.com.>

Saw this comment at the article: "I was preparing to switch from Safari to Firefox as my primary browser unless 10.8.3 fixed whatever was causing a major slowdown every time I switched web sites. Well, I used Safari briefly this morning and the problem appears to have gone away." That's been my main reason for switching to Chrome. But I've grown to like it in some ways...

Wonder if it will also clear up my lack of full javascript functioning at TS? I never see it anywhere else. OTOH, I think I remember Paddy or Kriss saying it was just the older version of the IP.Board software in use. O wel... I suspect hat updating the software would not only be expensive but time consuming. Maybe we need to give some of the Admins a raise? I vote for 33.33%! Should I start a Poll?! scram.gif
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: kimmer on March 18, 2013, 08:57:42 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Mar 18 2013, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wonder if it will also clear up my lack of full javascript functioning at TS? I never see it anywhere else. OTOH, I think I remember Paddy or Kriss saying it was just the older version of the IP.Board software in use. O wel... I suspect hat updating the software would not only be expensive but time consuming. Maybe we need to give some of the Admins a raise? I vote for 33.33%! Should I start a Poll?! scram.gif

Not sure who first mentioned it, but yes, the older IP.Board software and Safari (older?) are the culprits for your issues. Not just the cost, it's the time spent installing software and then creating / finding / modifying all the new skins that would be needed. eek2.gif Not sure there is a big enough pay raise to cover that headache.


PS: I'm now a confirmed FF user and Safari will have to go a looooonnnnng way to win me back. wink.gif
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 18, 2013, 09:21:43 PM
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Not sure there is a big enough pay raise to cover that headache.
Well, I'm willing to up my 33.33% offer to an even 34.0%! How about that?! WOW.gif And don't forget the other perks! Thinking.gif And if you can remember those, how about reminding me!
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: kimmer on March 21, 2013, 11:23:48 PM
QUOTE(kimmer @ Mar 18 2013, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Mar 18 2013, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WIMP!! tongue.gif scram.gif

yes.gif toothgrin.gif

Well ... my iMac simply updated itself when I wasn't looking and all I was left with was the alert RESTART. eek2.gif So I'm no longer a wimp, I'm now on the blooming edge of software versions. Or something like that. tongue.gif I'll let you know if I have any problems.
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: jchuzi on March 22, 2013, 05:51:24 AM
If you don't like the automatic download, go to System Preferences > Software Update and turn it off (at least, that's how it works in 10.6). I noticed that a then-new iMac with 10.6 pre-installed had the automatic download turned on by default. I can only assume that 10.8 does the same. Personally, I don't want my computer to download anything automatically, much less install it.
Title: 10.8.3 is now available
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 22, 2013, 09:29:20 AM
Good call, Jon, I'd pretty much forgot about that setting and I think it's ON by default in both Lion and ML. I noticed I do allow "Install system data files and security updates in the "Automatically check for updates" section. That seems confusing to me and possible dangerous! It may be Apple's attempt to assure that most of us get security updates?

At any rate, I do have the "Download newly available updates in the background " unchecked, even though it claims would not actually install anything. The text says it will "notify [me] when...ready to be installed." I'm just paranoid, I guess. Paranoid.gif

There is also a setting (unchecked, in my case) that applies to anything purchased "other Macs." That is even more confusing! I suppose those "other Macs" are unable to connect to the Mac App Store? dntknw.gif Maybe on a business LAN with many Macs (not to be confused with mini Macs Groaner.gif )

Additionally, when Notifications became available (ML only, I think), you can get one stating that an Update is available. Don't be too quick to click the two buttons on that dialog! One basically says (because I'm writing this with my ever failing memory!) "Thanks, let me take a look at what you're talking about." In that case, The Mac App Store will open. But the other one says, "I'm feeling lucky! Go ahead and install it without even telling me what it is!" eek2.gif This is one Notification that is going to do something, be sure you see what those two choices are. It is different than the vast majority of Notifications that allow you to simply dismiss it. wallbash.gif