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Title: Facebook
Post by: Jack W on June 30, 2013, 08:49:37 AM
This appeared on MacInTouch yesterday:

FYI:

MacInTouch 6/29/13

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Norton Mobile Insight Discovers Facebook Privacy Leak:
http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/nort...ok-privacy-leak

Of particular note, Mobile Insight automatically flagged the Facebook application for Android because it leaked the device phone number. The first time you launch the Facebook application, even before logging in, your phone number will be sent over the Internet to Facebook servers. You do not need to provide your phone number, log in, initiate a specific action, or even need a Facebook account for this to happen.

According to Google Play, hundreds of millions of devices have installed the Facebook application and a significant portion of those devices are likely affected.
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What else do they download from your smart phone???

Do You use Facebook???

I don't
Title: Facebook
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 30, 2013, 01:48:16 PM
I would assume one's mobile phone number would be similar to one's IP address when accessing anything on the intermess with it. dntknw.gif Maybe only with Android? dntknw.gif I don't use that or FB... wink.gif
Title: Facebook
Post by: kimmer on June 30, 2013, 03:37:12 PM
QUOTE(Jack W @ Jun 30 2013, 06:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of particular note, Mobile Insight automatically flagged the Facebook application for Android because it leaked the device phone number. The first time you launch the Facebook application, even before logging in, your phone number will be sent over the Internet to Facebook servers. You do not need to provide your phone number, log in, initiate a specific action, or even need a Facebook account for this to happen.

According to Google Play, hundreds of millions of devices have installed the Facebook application and a significant portion of those devices are likely affected.

What else do they download from your smart phone???

Do You use Facebook???

I use FB on my Droid phone. When I installed the FB app it flat out said it would be transmitting my mobile number and that I would have to authorize it to prove who I was. I'd already used my mobile number when I registered at FB years ago, so it was no biggy to me. I don't bank, or shop, or anything else on my phone. I've never considered it that secure.

You can read all the stuff the FB app has access to (and it's lengthy and a bit scary) here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...ay5rYXRhbmEiXQ..

Not to defend FB (because there's loads about it that I don't like, but that's another whole discussion that we've had several times around here), but how safe is Symantec/Norton??? I stopped trusting them years ago.

Maybe I should find an anti-virus app for my phone. dntknw.gif Maybe I should give it up and go read instead. wink.gif
Title: Facebook
Post by: dolphin on June 30, 2013, 05:10:19 PM
I am on Facebook, but very limited. I do not use FB on my phone. I had my email on my phone when I first bought it, but took it off after only a month.
Title: Facebook
Post by: Jack W on June 30, 2013, 05:26:01 PM
QUOTE(kimmer @ Jun 30 2013, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to defend FB (because there's loads about it that I don't like, but that's another whole discussion that we've had several times around here), but how safe is Symantec/Norton??? I stopped trusting them years ago.

Maybe I should find an anti-virus app for my phone. dntknw.gif Maybe I should give it up and go read instead. wink.gif

Ditto what you said about Norton.

As I said before, Norton used to have good software under Classic, but they sure screwed that up royally under OS X.

Jack
Title: Facebook
Post by: Xairbusdriver on June 30, 2013, 05:41:27 PM
I just try to keep my keyboard unplugged when I'm not at the computer. That keeps our cat off the intermess. She doesn't like that but without opposable thumbs, it keeps my downloads safer...
Title: Facebook
Post by: jcarter on July 02, 2013, 06:35:00 AM
Same with me, no FB on my iPhone, but have to have it on the computer, as thats how the young relatives in our family communicate with pictures and fun stuff and so forth. But for a real message, we all switch over to email.
Title: Facebook
Post by: rgray on July 04, 2013, 12:20:31 PM
This just in today's MailOnline Big Brother strikes again: Now TWITTER wants to start tracking you on the web | Mail Online
Title: Facebook
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 04, 2013, 02:24:09 PM
"Start"? Or admit it? rolleyes.gif

Would any thinking person not know they are surely already doing this? The difference is an 'opt-out' choice that may not be hidden...

In other news, police report that homicide victims seldom speak to them!
Title: Facebook
Post by: rgray on July 04, 2013, 07:01:09 PM

Google told its 'baffling' privacy rules are illegal and ordered to improve policies or face action by UK data watchdog
Title: Facebook
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 02, 2013, 02:11:11 PM
Another policy change coming soon. It's supposed to be posted on one of their blogs; an attempt to act all 'feely-touchy' and oh-so concerned about its 'products' information. The big change is that they plan on using facial recognition software on you Profile image so they can find it in images posted by anyone else that might have you in it. It will be on by default, of course...

<In Facebook’s Proposed Privacy Policy Updates, Your Face Pics Really Do Matter> All Things D


Apparently, these Policy changes come about every six months. Do you read through them? I haven't bothered since attempting to delete my account some years ago.
Title: Facebook
Post by: Highmac on September 03, 2013, 12:47:39 AM
QUOTE(rgray @ Jul 5 2013, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Google told its 'baffling' privacy rules are illegal and ordered to improve policies or face action by UK data watchdog
Oooh! Bet the Google bosses are quaking in their boots laugh.gif
Title: Facebook
Post by: kimmer on September 03, 2013, 09:09:32 PM
Having read about the new FB stuff, I decided to remove my photos. Took me a while, but they are all gone. Of course, I only have FB's word that they'll really remove them.  rolleyes.gif Anyhow, I don't use FB for much any more. I keep up with a few family members and a few friends and I could easily give it up if they would use email. tongue.gif Let's face it, the world would be so much better if it ran my way. rofl.gif

Found this article interesting:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/sunday-r....html?_r=1&
Title: Facebook
Post by: gunug on September 04, 2013, 09:06:34 AM
I am sincerely thinking of weaning myself off of Facebook.  The latest renovation of their policy saying they own my pictures is "really" something that I find irksome.  It's not that I care whether the picture I have of the hugeness of my being in my swimsuit jumping into the lake is likely to appear in an ad for breath mints; but mainly the other people who I have taken care "not" to identify in my pictures but who are now routinely being identified by FB's facial recognition.  I hardly think it's fair.  

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I just try to keep my keyboard unplugged when I'm not at the computer. That keeps our cat off the intermess. She doesn't like that but without opposable thumbs, it keeps my downloads safer...


ABD, your cat sent me a text to tell you that you're a cheapskate and should get at least a Mac Mini for the kitty with a nice bluetooth keyboard to go with it.   laugh.gif
Title: Facebook
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 04, 2013, 03:15:36 PM
If I don't get my iMac cleaned up/verified soon, I may give it to her!!! I was greeted this morning saying the TM backup failed. DU said it couldn't even unmount it to attempt a Repair. Disk warrior said the same thing! That's when I made a terrible mistake of changing my Startup disk to one that I think actually has 10.6 for a MBP on it! I finally managed a PRAM/VRAM reset to get back to the default internal drive. Now DW says it doesn't have room for the directory rebuild. wallbash.gif DU is working away claiming it will take another 35 minutes... A least that's down for 37!!! rolleyes.gif
Title: Facebook
Post by: gunug on September 06, 2013, 09:55:03 AM
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The big change is that they plan on using facial recognition software on you Profile

They've done this already as of this past weekend, recognizing my young cousin and my younger son in pictures without my tacit approval.  I'm thinking we need to learn just how much make up or what kind of mask (big Elton John type sunglasses?) would confuse the software to the point where it doesn't function or, even better, it identifies the person as somebody famous. . .just imagine 100's of pictures naming Winston Churchill or some other long lost saint from the past at your party.  Maybe we could all start wearing those copyright "Guy Fawkes" masks!

Title: Facebook
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 06, 2013, 10:39:26 AM
Outstanding idea, John... I mean Guy! laughhard.gif

I've used my Supersonic Sled Training graduation picture at some places (they didn't have 'color' back then...):
Title: Facebook
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 06, 2013, 04:52:03 PM
Another "group" has found me. Got an "invite" from a "friend" to connect to "TradeKey." rolleyes.gif None of my "friends" would submit my name to any site. If they liked or found a site to be useful, they'd simply tell me about it and maybe include a url to its home page... rolleyes.gif SpamSieve now has another SPAM address... "Sorry, 'friend'" tongue.gif
Title: Facebook
Post by: sandbox on September 08, 2013, 06:32:10 AM
Big user of Facebook here, and if the question was posed, who do you trust more, Facebook or Norton, my vote would go to Facebook.

I have good reason to not think highly of Norton, and I suspect there's a lot of folks in the Mac community that feel the same way.
Title: Facebook
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 08, 2013, 03:01:57 PM
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who do you trust more, Facebook or Norton

I don't understand the question. I don't use either. But for different reasons than lack of "trust." wink.gif