Post by: sandbox on July 19, 2013, 03:55:41 AM
My first surprise was when I tried to connect Mac & iPhone through bluetooth only to discover they won't. I'm guessing there's an app for that but really, should I need one?
My experience with this phone has not been great, and though I know I need to give it more time, it's painful. I feel like I got out of a Jaguar and into a model-T.
Is there anyone out there who has gone from an Android to an iPhone that would have any tips or drugs or something to help with the pain? Please ;-)
Post by: rgray on July 19, 2013, 05:57:38 AM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 19, 2013, 08:20:44 AM
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my significant other who thought it would be a smooth transition and communicate well with her Mac
I assume you are talking about 'synchronizing' the info on the two different devices. What is she wanting to 'sync?' Some things are set in the phone, syncing email, contacts, calendars, etc. No physical connections needed. Of course, this uses ones data plan (if away from the computer) and I have no idea what T-Mobile's rules are.Direct (USB) connections to the Mac are usually done via iTunes, of course. Does the phone appear in the Side Bar of iTunes when it is connected?
I'd suggest contacting/visiting T-Mobile and telling them what you want to do... of course, you'll need to find someone there who knows what a "Mac" is...
Post by: Paddy on July 19, 2013, 10:28:43 AM
Anyway - you won't be using your data plan to sync if you have a WiFi network (and have WiFi turned on in the phone's settings!).
What other issues are you having? I love my iPhone 5, but then I only had a "dumb" phone before.
Post by: sandbox on July 19, 2013, 11:23:49 AM
I don't know what else yet, the phone didn't come with any apps so I'll be doing that kabuki dance, trying to figure out what's not in there that either T-Mobile or Samsung would load in by default, like Drop Box, which I tried to download and was sent to iTunes and told to sign-up. No I don't remember Jane's ID and password from heaven knows when, I'm sure there's one out there, just not in my head. She uses MS Office 2008, Firefox, iChat, email-fax, and rarely something in the adobe suite. It's a business computer and it does a fine job without and ID and password. I don't think she's ever used iTunes, well maybe, but hardly ever. I know I must sound hyper critical but really, the difference between the two platforms is like driving on the wrong side of the road. Thanks!
PS> I did find this yesterday but it requires a wire/perhaps wifi which would work too.
http://www.imacsoft.com/iphone-to-mac-transfer.html but this is only one way, from phone to mac.
Post by: Paddy on July 19, 2013, 02:53:45 PM
Photos are synced via iPhoto on the Mac, if that's your weapon of choice. It's not mine - I use Lightroom, which also imports from my iPhone just fine.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4083
I plug my iPhone into my Mac for things not involving iCloud or IMAP, but you can use WiFi too.
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/io...wi-fi-50005115/
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 19, 2013, 03:03:58 PM
I don't use iTunes for anything much, either!
I do burn a couple of CDs for the church each week. If I remember, I'll connect my iPhone/iPad and do a backup. But the apps all use the App Store which shows when there is an app to update (it may even do that automatically, but I'd rather be the one who decides when and how to do an update). However, the rest of the syncing, as I said, is completely automatic with no connections nor proximity requirements. As far as I know, the bluetooth sharing-by-touching (or close proximity) is a feature of some smart phones. Apparently, your Galaxcies?Not sure what your concerns are for DropBox, you have to be registered to use it, even if it's their free space. BTW, 1Password also has an iPhone/iPad app, so there's no excuse for not having multiple, very long and secure passwords.
Post by: rgray on July 19, 2013, 03:53:39 PM
Post by: kimmer on July 19, 2013, 04:33:36 PM
Post by: sandbox on July 19, 2013, 05:55:26 PM
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The USB cable that (should) come with the iPhone is used to connect the phone to the computer with iTunes doing the heavy lifting. It is a two-way sync and is all you need. You can sync by Wifi or by iCloud completely wirelessly. Not need to mess around with bluetooth. It seems you are going to some trouble to make it more difficult than necessary.
Post by: sandbox on July 19, 2013, 06:15:41 PM
Post by: sandbox on July 19, 2013, 06:25:33 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 19, 2013, 09:07:46 PM
Obviously, an Android is not an iPhone and vice versa. Sorry you didn't enjoy the experience but that's why we have competition and choice! 
Post by: rgray on July 19, 2013, 10:01:23 PM
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Connecting iPhone to Mac is only for tethering - nothing else.
NOT SO!!.....
Connecting the iPhone to the Mac is the basic connection method for charging, syncing and importantly for doing a system restore when it becomes necessary. It is not necessary for 'tethering' any more because you can setup the recent crop of iPhones as a Wifi hotspot and connect using the Mac's Wifi. In early iPhone variants it was the only way to do these thing. Syncing by Wifi was added and more recently using iCloud was introduced.
Post by: Paddy on July 19, 2013, 11:55:48 PM
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QUOTE(Paddy @ Jul 19 2013, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Connecting iPhone to Mac is only for tethering - nothing else.
NOT SO!!.....
Connecting the iPhone to the Mac is the basic connection method for charging, syncing and importantly for doing a system restore when it becomes necessary. It is not necessary for 'tethering' any more because you can setup the recent crop of iPhones as a Wifi hotspot and connect using the Mac's Wifi. In early iPhone variants it was the only way to do these thing. Syncing by Wifi was added and more recently using iCloud was introduced.
Rgray, I meant connecting WITH BLUETOOTH. That's what the original question was about, and that's what I was responding to. Sorry for any confusion - original post has now been clarified. (My subsequent posts should also have made that clear...)
Sandbox, sorry to hear that you didn't like the iPhone. I have at least as many, if not more, male friends with iPhones, so I really don't think it's a women thing! (Though I do find the Galaxy too big - I have small hands) Anyway - two days with no time to really do any proper exploration probably isn't a fair assessment. I wouldn't expect to grasp all the nuances of Android in that time. You have to choose what works best for you, in the time you have. So much of one's experience using something like this is governed by prior experience, and just because it doesn't function exactly like an Android phone, doesn't mean that it's inferior or doesn't work.
Post by: Frances144 on July 20, 2013, 02:18:19 AM
Post by: sandbox on July 20, 2013, 03:26:04 AM
On the physical phone capabilities android does have an edge. Multitasking, page layering, split screening has been an option for years. Speeds right up there, and the Samsung camera is really good. I'm playing with a new Sony because I thought a waterproof phone would be a good idea, it has a 13mp camera which is great but not as good as Samsung in this area.
I know this might sound corny, but Samsung comes with an IR Bluster universal remote and a TV programing guild with all sorts of bell & whistle, they have them on their Tabs as well, it's just one of those conveniences that you hate to give up. If I'm on the phone walking through the house and come upon the TV I can mute it and keep talking, shut it off, turn it on. If you keep the phone close, you don't need remote and it's just as good as my Logitech. When I was in New Hampshire last year and T-Mobile service was spotty I just switch the phone to At&T and bought minutes, so my phones work on either network. Well anyay, it as good to talk with you guys again.
All good wishes
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QUOTE(rgray @ Jul 19 2013, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Paddy @ Jul 19 2013, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Connecting iPhone to Mac is only for tethering - nothing else.
NOT SO!!.....
Connecting the iPhone to the Mac is the basic connection method for charging, syncing and importantly for doing a system restore when it becomes necessary. It is not necessary for 'tethering' any more because you can setup the recent crop of iPhones as a Wifi hotspot and connect using the Mac's Wifi. In early iPhone variants it was the only way to do these thing. Syncing by Wifi was added and more recently using iCloud was introduced.
Rgray, I meant connecting WITH BLUETOOTH. That's what the original question was about, and that's what I was responding to. Sorry for any confusion - original post has now been clarified. (My subsequent posts should also have made that clear...)
Sandbox, sorry to hear that you didn't like the iPhone. I have at least as many, if not more, male friends with iPhones, so I really don't think it's a women thing! (Though I do find the Galaxy too big - I have small hands) Anyway - two days with no time to really do any proper exploration probably isn't a fair assessment. I wouldn't expect to grasp all the nuances of Android in that time. You have to choose what works best for you, in the time you have. So much of one's experience using something like this is governed by prior experience, and just because it doesn't function exactly like an Android phone, doesn't mean that it's inferior or doesn't work.