Post by: gunug on September 04, 2013, 10:24:53 AM
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Beth A. is a recruiter on the east coast who relies heavily on LinkedIn for her work. One day she logged into her account to find a familiar name under the People You May Know column on the right side of her screen: Her 12-year-old granddaughter. (To protect the girl’s privacy, I’ll just call her Cecelia.)
So Beth asked her granddaughter, who revealed that two weeks ago she had received multiple emails welcoming her to LinkedIn and urging her to connect with others.
Beth was aghast. Cecelia had no recollection of ever having been on LinkedIn, let alone creating a profile.
http://www.itworld.com/it-management/37115...down_2013-09-04
So Beth asked her granddaughter, who revealed that two weeks ago she had received multiple emails welcoming her to LinkedIn and urging her to connect with others.
Beth was aghast. Cecelia had no recollection of ever having been on LinkedIn, let alone creating a profile.
http://www.itworld.com/it-management/37115...down_2013-09-04
I'm not saying that the people who do a lot of networking through LinkedIn aren't getting their money's worth but read the story of Tynan setting up and account called "The Danger!"
Post by: jchuzi on September 04, 2013, 01:04:21 PM
I do not participate in LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter or any other social media, nor do I have any intention of doing so.
Post by: daryl66 on September 04, 2013, 01:23:33 PM
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I do not participate in LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter or any other social media, nor do I have any intention of doing so.
I resemble that. Grumpy old man, I guess.
I continue to be amazed to see, no matter where we go or travel, the percentage of folks with the phones or tablets, firmly attached like an appendage with their face pointing down. Not just the teenagers either. I guess having been involved with computers and the internet from the very beginning I just do not comprehend what I am seeing. An all new experience in todays world I guess.
Daryl
Post by: gunug on September 04, 2013, 02:32:03 PM
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I continue to be amazed to see, no matter where we go or travel, the percentage of folks with the phones or tablets, firmly attached like an appendage with their face pointing down. Not just the teenagers either.
There was a motorcycle rally at a local lake in Eastern Kansas and of course at least one motorcycle wreck; but in this case according to a friend who is a Kansas State Trooper this one was probably caused by by inattentive driving with a 70 year old woman fooling with her smartphone for GPS directions. I like to pull over and stop if I have to mess with technology; even in my new car which has bluetooth hands free. Too much distraction!
Post by: Paddy on September 04, 2013, 05:20:39 PM
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Occasionally, I get emails that are purportedly from LinkedIn. They tell me that someone I know is asking me to join. Mostly, I know these people and there is even a photo of them in the email. Why any of them want me to hook up with a professional group of which I have no known connection (I'm not an astronaut, social worker, nor a hit man) is beyond me. Invariably, there is a request to click a link to verify that I know this person. Being of sound mind, I never do it.
I do not participate in LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter or any other social media, nor do I have any intention of doing so.
I do not participate in LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter or any other social media, nor do I have any intention of doing so.
You know hit men?
I ignore any requests from those I don't know. I'm on LinkedIn, though not for any real reason, as I've never used it for any professional purposes. Facebook has allowed me to keep in touch with people in places I've lived (Oregon, Massachusetts) and friends and relatives in other parts of Canada, the US, South Africa and Britain as well as reconnect with people who I haven't seen in years, which has been fun. It's all pretty low-key, and I don't post a lot; but I do enjoy it. Twitter, on the other hand, I have zero interest in; 99.9% of it is beyond inane.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 04, 2013, 07:34:03 PM
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Twitter, on the other hand, I have zero interest in; 99.9% of it is beyond inane.
Surely you're not talking about my Tweets as to what I had for breakfast?!!!
Post by: gunug on September 05, 2013, 07:57:03 AM
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You know hit men?
Paddy, if he told you about this he'd have to kill you!
ABD, isn't it the Tweeting you do after breakfast that we want to avoid being involved in?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 05, 2013, 09:44:33 PM
But you'll still have my Tweets about each time I get another cup of coffee and the thrilling additional info on the amount of Hazelnut, non-fat, creamer I use. Not to mention the temperature of the coffee both before and after adding the creamer... and then... I just assumed everyone wanted to know all this... I mean, who wouldn't want hundreds of "followers?"! 
Post by: daryl66 on September 05, 2013, 11:12:36 PM
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I mean, who wouldn't want hundreds of "followers?"!
ME
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 06, 2013, 09:33:58 AM
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ME
Well, using my highly developed powers of deduction, logic and psychological knowledge of 'older' humans (particularly those living in mountainous regions of North America), I have decided to remove you as one of the 10s of thousands of individuals I 'follow!' I will certainly miss reading about your trips to buy socks!Wait! Do I have to actually register on Twitter to do that?
Post by: dboh on September 07, 2013, 05:56:43 PM
There is a new thing where people endorse others for various abilities (editing, fundraising, etc.). I'm being endorsed by a lot of my contacts (all are people I actually know in the real world) for things they can't know much about (as in, they never would have seen any of the articles I've edited). I haven't endorsed them back, but I get the feeling I ought to.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 07, 2013, 06:03:50 PM
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I get the feeling I ought to
That's the whole point of the process. It will greatly benefit Twitter/GMail/FaceBook/etc. because they will have more "eyes" to sell. Any benefit to you or your friends is purely coincidental. You are the product these companies are selling.There's a new kid in the 'business' social/networking crowd: TradeKey. Got an 'invite' from an un-named 'friend' a few days ago. It's now been added to SpamSieve's "SPAM" list. I would have sworn that I mentioned/posted about this in the last few days at TS! I may have slipped well over the edge of senility!!! 
Post by: sandbox on September 08, 2013, 06:36:22 AM
They seem to be the most trusted platform out there.
Post by: rgray on September 08, 2013, 06:40:06 AM
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Many professional people we know use LinkedIn without issue. They seem to be the most trusted platform out there.
In my experience Linkedin is a huge source of spam, especially phising exploits..... Especially in the form of phony job offers!.......... YMMV
Post by: rgray on September 08, 2013, 07:02:44 AM
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I mean, who wouldn't want hundreds of "followers?"!
ME
ME TOO
Post by: dboh on September 08, 2013, 07:45:17 AM
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Many professional people we know use LinkedIn without issue.
They seem to be the most trusted platform out there.
They seem to be the most trusted platform out there.
Agreed. If you're looking for a job, many hiring managers view profiles when narrowing down the applications. A profile is a great way to present yourself without all the nervousness of a job interview and then afterwards remembering that you forgot to say something you'd wanted to say. Also, at one point, I needed to bring myself up to speed on social media and I learned a lot by joining a few of the groups and reading their discussions. Of course, a lot of the information is bogus and more than a few of the posters are practically charlatans, but that's no different than the real world.
Post by: Bbob on September 08, 2013, 01:53:47 PM
Post by: Paddy on September 11, 2013, 08:06:40 PM
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Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 12, 2013, 07:22:39 PM
Post by: rgray on September 26, 2013, 04:58:58 PM
Be sure to read the Comments!!
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 26, 2013, 05:28:56 PM
Gosh! A company uses info you give them and actually makes money doing so! Whoda thunk?!
And LinkedIn didn't sell the addresses? And they sent exactly three messages? I almost willing to bet that this is actually written in the TOS, but who reads those? Maybe some people still believe there IS a free lunch, at least on the interweb?
That probably explains the emails I got from people 'inviting' me to join. How naive I can be!
I'm still not joining, even if these guys win their suit.
Post by: Paddy on September 26, 2013, 05:54:55 PM
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Interesting story. Is that third image of an older, 'white' iMac? Just wondering if the photog asked for a waiver from Apple... or maybe it's from a 'stock' photo site... and it doesn't actually show the Apple logo, so...
Nope - it's an aluminum one - earlier than the super skinny ones we have now, but definitely not the white model, which was white and shiny on the back. Note the keyboard and mouse as well.
Tsk, tsk, Jim. We're going to have to send you back to Apple Model Identification School, tout de suite!
Post by: Jack W on September 26, 2013, 07:41:07 PM
To join him on LinkedIn.
I've seen him several times since we both retired a few years ago.
From that article rgray referenced, they say "up to 3".
So does that mean I won't receive any more?
I did not download any of them, but deleted them from my Pop-Server.
A couple of years ago, another Goodrich retiree sent me "invites".
I called him and asked about it, and he knew nothing about it.
Anyway, that's my story.
Jack
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 26, 2013, 10:38:23 PM
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Are you sure you're in Toronto? Sounds more like Ontario (and I'm not talking about the one on the left coast)! I have a 2011 aluminum iMac but the back is not dark like the one in the image. That one must be the model between mine and the non-fat one.
I'm with you, Jack, no need for any 'work links/networking' for me, either. But, thanks to rgray, I now know why I got those three from the same person. I thought it also strange that he would be sending them since he was also retired!
Post by: rgray on September 27, 2013, 06:20:29 AM
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Are you sure you're in Toronto? Sounds more like Ontario (and I'm not talking about the one on the left coast)!You do realise that Toronto is the capital city of the province of Ontario in Canada? ? ? ?
Post by: Frances144 on September 27, 2013, 07:40:59 AM
For me, I am a member but it is more because I keep forgetting to cancel it (free version).
Though I did get an email from my old boss of 25 years ago so that was a laugh.
Post by: Highmac on September 27, 2013, 08:07:54 AM
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Are you sure you're in Toronto? Sounds more like Ontario (and I'm not talking about the one on the left coast)!You do realise that Toronto is the capital city of the province of Ontario in Canada? ? ? ?
From my history class - so many years ago we still thought we had an empire - seem to remember Quebec is the French-language area and that there was a battle there, though can't remember much about the rest of it. However, the word 'heights' is lurking in the back of my mind.
Blast - I'm going to end up on Google again
And we do seem to have wandered w-a-a-a-a-a-y
Sorry!
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 27, 2013, 10:53:40 AM
In order to return, however circuitously, to the topic, perhaps I should search for some 'friends' on LinkedIn that I might visit in Canada?!
HTH, Neil.
Post by: gunug on September 27, 2013, 12:34:38 PM
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And we do seem to have wandered w-a-a-a-a-a-y Sorry!
Sorry!I'm quite alright with that! I'm getting more from this than I got from my original topic!
I'm reminded of a History Channel thing I recently watched about the OK Corral; how Wyatt Earp was brothel owner and cold-blooded murderer who only wanted to a successful businessman. I'm sure that the LinkedIn crowd just want to have a successful social networking site and not every step they take may seem to be in the correct direction!
Post by: Paddy on September 27, 2013, 04:18:36 PM
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Obviously, I should have used "Quebec" instead of "Ontario." All I know of Canada is a less than day trip to the Canadian part of Glacier National Park, a few layovers at the airport hotel at Toronto (I think) and too many cold days in Winnipeg in the Winter! And all that was as much as 50 years ago! Oh, I have landed at Goose Bay a few times, also. My travels to Canada have been too few and too long ago!
In order to return, however circuitously, to the topic, perhaps I should search for some 'friends' on LinkedIn that I might visit in Canada?! HTH, Neil.
In order to return, however circuitously, to the topic, perhaps I should search for some 'friends' on LinkedIn that I might visit in Canada?!
HTH, Neil. Yup. Toronto is IN Ontario, which is a province of Canada. (think of provinces the same way you think of states). And we're next door to Quebec. And we do have quite a few French speakers in parts of Northern Ontario, but I would say that the majority are English-speaking, though depending on where you are in Toronto, that might not be quite correct either, these days. We have a huge east Asian and Asian population in the GTA (greater Toronto area) now - makes for great restaurant choices! I think Toronto is now supposed to be either one of or the most multicultural cities in the world; certainly it's a very different and much more interesting place than it was 50 years ago.
BTW - French is the other official language in all of Canada, not that this means that every Canadian (or even most Canadians) speak it well. Everything you buy has both French and English labeling, you can get government services in both languages, and many companies also offer services in both languages. I read it better than I speak it (which isn't very well at all, as I've not had any real occasion to even practice it for over 30 years!) I'm great at reading cereal boxes!
Of course, in Quebec, the language laws are a bit different - all signage must be in French, all new immigrants, unless they are native English-speakers must send their kids to French-speaking schools etc. Anyway, our kids here in Ontario take French from Grade 4 on, and there are quite a few in French Immersion programs that start in kindergarten, which is certainly a more effective way of learning the language than the 30 minutes a day they get otherwise.
Post by: krissel on September 28, 2013, 02:53:22 AM
When I go to my fake profile now, up pops a dozen or so people who "I may know". One of these is my niece who is a member of Linkedin. Two are guys I communicated with several years ago when I had a personal profile on Yahoo. Another is a former student of mine who has emailed me occasionally at my Yahoo address. What really freaks me out is a contact with my real name but the attendant profile is empty. I don't know if it is supposed to be me or just someone else with my name (there is at least one other I know of). In short, the only way these names would come up is the cross reference of my Yahoo email with theirs, which Linkedin had to do. That alone makes my skin crawl.
Post by: Jack W on September 28, 2013, 06:41:38 AM
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Just to test Linkedin, a few years ago I joined using a fake name and putting a Yahoo mail addy as my contact. I never added any personal info to my profile, in fact never added any info at all.
When I go to my fake profile now, up pops a dozen or so people who "I may know". One of these is my niece who is a member of Linkedin. Two are guys I communicated with several years ago when I had a personal profile on Yahoo. Another is a former student of mine who has emailed me occasionally at my Yahoo address. What really freaks me out is a contact with my real name but the attendant profile is empty. I don't know if it is supposed to be me or just someone else with my name (there is at least one other I know of). In short, the only way these names would come up is the cross reference of my Yahoo email with theirs, which Linkedin had to do. That alone makes my skin crawl.
It makes you wonder if Yahoo Mail is safe to use, kind of like Gmail.When I go to my fake profile now, up pops a dozen or so people who "I may know". One of these is my niece who is a member of Linkedin. Two are guys I communicated with several years ago when I had a personal profile on Yahoo. Another is a former student of mine who has emailed me occasionally at my Yahoo address. What really freaks me out is a contact with my real name but the attendant profile is empty. I don't know if it is supposed to be me or just someone else with my name (there is at least one other I know of). In short, the only way these names would come up is the cross reference of my Yahoo email with theirs, which Linkedin had to do. That alone makes my skin crawl.
They're all in the biz of making money, and not necessarily to do you a favor and protect your security.
Just my opinion.
Jack
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 28, 2013, 02:58:58 PM
The above explains why I say that you and I are their product, not their [/b]customer[/b].