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Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: jepinto on July 13, 2003, 09:26:34 PM
After the remodel, I must disassemble and eradicate dust bunnies  sad.gif   Seems like it would be a good time to upgrade the drive.  iMac 333/384

Sugestions as to size and brand?  I'm starting to accumulate lots of digital images, so, while it's only 1/2 full, the HD is "feeling" small.

And I just hate to throw anything away....so what can I do with the 6G in the iMac now?  Enclosure and use as an external?  USB or Firewire?

And while I'm in there, I'm changing the PRAM battery, it is a 99 model, I bought it the week the 350s came out, 10/5/99.
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: Bill on July 13, 2003, 10:38:26 PM
Wasn't it Steve aka swhitset who upgraded his 333 hard-drive sometime back Jennie?
A few others just did also,didn't they? <- send that one to Lorraine. <gr>
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: kelly on July 14, 2003, 09:23:14 AM
Jennie. I'd look for one of the cheaper, smaller drives if I was you. smile.gif

If you've been getting by with 6 Gigs, 40-60 will be plenty big.

Something like this.

IBM/Hitachi 60GB EIDE 7200 rpm for $63

http://dealmac.com/articles/53241.html

You might do better if you want to fool with Rebates.

http://dealmac.com/sections/storage.html

Donate that 6 gigs to someone who can use it on an old machine. smile.gif
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: Mrious_be on July 14, 2003, 11:57:36 AM
I just put a 40GB WD in my iMac, works smoothly.
It's a 7200 rpm drive, and no heat issues.
I'm glad i upgraded smile.gif
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: tacit on July 14, 2003, 02:32:25 PM
QUOTE(jepinto @ Jul 14 2003, 2:26 AM)
After the remodel, I must disassemble and eradicate dust bunnies  sad.gif   Seems like it would be a good time to upgrade the drive.  iMac 333/384

 I have a Maxtor 40 GB hard drive in my 333 iMac. Works great!

***** WARNING *****

When you put a bigger hard disk in any tray loading iMac, you absolutely MUST partition the drive. The first partition MUST be less than or equal to 8GB in size, and your operating system MUST be on that first partition.

The boot ROMs in a tray-loading iMac can only find the operating system if it is in the first physical 8GB of hard disk space. If your operating system is not located in the first physical 8GB of space, your computer will not boot.
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: Bill on July 14, 2003, 02:34:17 PM
Yeah,there you go. MB was another who upgraded their HD on a iMac!

Want me to find the thread for ya Jen? biggrin.gif
>>> Isa running for cover <<<
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: swhitset on July 14, 2003, 03:59:17 PM
Yeah, Bill has a good memory   wink.gif

I put a 30GB 7200rpm Maxtor in my 333 quite a while ago.  It seemed huge at the time.

Tacit is 100% correct about partitioning and making sure the OS is within the first 8GB.  If you don't do this, it will not boot.

Steve
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: Paddy on July 14, 2003, 06:13:17 PM
One further note - most hard drives these days only have one year warranties. If you want a three year warranty (which until recently was standard with all drives...) try the Western Digital Special Editions. I am using one now (120 GB) as my primary drive and it is fast and quiet. Has an 8GB cache too. There is a 40GB version - cheapest I could find right now is about $70 (dealtime and pricewatch)

DealMac lists the Maxtor 120 GB Special Edition for $79 which is a real deal, but darned if I can find the rebates they seem to think apply. I've only found 2 - one for $30 and one for $20, and last time I checked $149-$50=$99, not $79.

It also only has the 1 year warranty.
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: kelly on July 14, 2003, 08:03:32 PM
I thought the 8 Gig Partition went without saying. wink.gif
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: Bill on July 14, 2003, 08:36:26 PM
Western Digital might be following suit with the warranty bit soon.
Hope not.!.
Like Paddy, I went the same route with a 120 and an 80gig.

I've noticed WD now packages their drives in a new shinny designed box.
Why? Seems like the packing would cost more in the production department .?.
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: Paddy on July 15, 2003, 11:35:58 AM
Western Digital HAS followed everyone on the one year warranty bit - for all their "regular" drives. The Special Editions are the only ones with 3 year warranties, and since they cost more, I would expect/hope that they keep the three year warranty on them. Maxtor also has some high-end drives (DiamondMax Plus with 8GB cache and over 120GB in size - though even then there are caveats) with three year warranties.

IBM/Hitachi warranty information

I'm finding warranty information increasingly difficult to find on the websites - most of them do NOT list the warranty with the product specs/listing, which I find ridiculous.

I'm not sure why all the manufacturers have gone to 1 year warranties on all their "regular" drives, other than as a means of saving money, but I don't find that it inspires confidence in the quality of the drives, and quite frankly makes one wonder if in fact the quality has declined!!! ohmy.gif
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: jepinto on July 15, 2003, 03:28:35 PM
So this http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Item.cfm...Item=IBM07N9212 at OWC might not be such a bad deal for the additional $13,00 with the 2 year OWC warranty?  ($5.50± shipping)
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: Bill on July 15, 2003, 06:22:52 PM
"The connection was refused when ... yada yada" Jennie.
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: kelly on July 15, 2003, 07:11:41 PM
Nothing wrong with that Drive or price Jennie. smile.gif

I'm sure it or something just like it came in a lot of new G4s. smile.gif
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: Paddy on July 15, 2003, 08:18:29 PM
Jennie, some more info:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/storage/20021122/

Seems that the thinking is that the 75GXP failure problems have been overcome (I have one of those drives and it's still chugging along at 3 years, 3 weeks...shhhh...touch wood etc. etc.) so that's probably not a bad deal at OWC. Generally $1/GB or slightly less is a good deal these days.

Here's another one to consider:

WD 40GB from Circuit City - $49 after $30 rebate
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: jepinto on July 16, 2003, 05:51:19 AM
Have Western Digitals regained a "quality" reputation?  It's been a while since I last bought a hard drive, but I remember the mantra "Never buy WD"
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: kelly on July 16, 2003, 08:33:35 AM
Yes. WD have regained a good reputation. If they ever lost it. smile.gif

The 8 MB Cache WDs are highly thought of.

Some people love/hate different brands for whatever reason.

Any hard Drive can fail. smile.gif
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: Bill on July 16, 2003, 12:23:33 PM
IAWK <-forgot how to do that! <gr>
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: jepinto on July 20, 2003, 02:42:59 PM
I've order a USB case for the old drive-thought it would make it easier to transfer files back, and won't be bad as a backup, and a Quantum 30G hard drive

Shipping was reasonable.

I'll be asking huh.gif LOTS huh.gif of questions when it gets here.  whistling.gif
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: kelly on July 20, 2003, 05:52:59 PM
Hard to say what that Drive is Jennie.  huh.gif

LBA is meaningless. Any Drive since about 1837 uses that.

http://www.pcwebopedia.com/TERM/L/LBA.html

There's a lot of Quantum Fireballs.

http://www.maxtor.com/en/support/products/archive.htm

I'm concerned about that 2.5 measurement. Size:  2.5X3.5X1

2.5 is for Laptops.

The USB Case will be handy.
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: Bill on July 20, 2003, 06:15:24 PM
"I've order a USB case for the old drive-thought it would make it easier to transfer files back"

Any particular reason the USB instead of firewire Jennie.?.
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: kelly on July 20, 2003, 06:20:38 PM
Because no Firewire on the 333? huh.gif

http://new.lowendmac.com/imacs/imac-d.shtml
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: Bill on July 20, 2003, 06:35:57 PM
Thought about that afterwards.
Well I had a hair-brain idea but that went poof.
Title: Since I have to clean anyway
Post by: jepinto on July 21, 2003, 01:00:43 PM
QUOTE(kelly @ Jul 20 2003, 6:52 PM)
I'm concerned about that 2.5 measurement. Size:  2.5X3.5X1

2.5 is for Laptops.

 I got concerned, so I called.  Gary at Poweron tells me it is not a laptop drive.  I told him it was going into the iMac and he said it would be fine.

thanx.gif for watching out for me! wub.gif I never noticed  sleep1.gif the size.