Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 04, 2014, 03:12:17 PM
Post by: tacit on July 04, 2014, 06:04:36 PM
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I won't be making the update for at least a week. Here's the usual minimalist "info" about the update.
I've updated and am experiencing no problems so far. This update contains a raft of security fixes, though most of them seem to be pretty exotic.
Post by: jchuzi on July 04, 2014, 08:06:12 PM
Post by: kimmer on July 04, 2014, 10:52:50 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 05, 2014, 09:10:08 AM
). Of course, we are always at the mercy of less then perfect checking by for compatibility problems with current software, unfortunately, that sometimes includes Apple's... 
I think it's a bit early to start "collecting the voices".
Post by: kimmer on July 05, 2014, 12:51:41 PM
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With a fairly clean install and 'fixed' problems, you're probably in the best position to update! I really think most people's problems are from not having a fully 'native' install to begin with. That's been the cause of any problems I've ever had, anyway (and no one else's experience matters! ). Of course, we are always at the mercy of less then perfect checking by for compatibility problems with current software, unfortunately, that sometimes includes Apple's... I think it's a bit early to start "collecting the voices".
). Of course, we are always at the mercy of less then perfect checking by for compatibility problems with current software, unfortunately, that sometimes includes Apple's... I think it's a bit early to start "collecting the voices". Does this translate to: "You try it, kimmer, and let me know how it goes."
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 05, 2014, 01:31:19 PM
Post by: jwboyd on July 05, 2014, 03:09:26 PM
Joe
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 05, 2014, 03:19:24 PM
You need to practice cynicism or is that senility... what were we talking about?
Post by: jcarter on July 07, 2014, 10:02:51 AM
Nor have I had trouble with it waking from sleep, or the logo problem on startup.
Safari 7.0.5 has some bugs which I dont want to get, so looks like I am going to wait for this update.
Read that YouTube videos wont play sometimes, and there have been a few reports of crashes.
Yes, I will wait till I see the go-ahead here.
Post by: tacit on July 07, 2014, 04:03:20 PM
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1.9.4 fixes a Wi-Fi problem, which I have not experienced.
Nor have I had trouble with it waking from sleep, or the logo problem on startup.
Safari 7.0.5 has some bugs which I dont want to get, so looks like I am going to wait for this update.
Read that YouTube videos wont play sometimes, and there have been a few reports of crashes.
Yes, I will wait till I see the go-ahead here.
Nor have I had trouble with it waking from sleep, or the logo problem on startup.
Safari 7.0.5 has some bugs which I dont want to get, so looks like I am going to wait for this update.
Read that YouTube videos wont play sometimes, and there have been a few reports of crashes.
Yes, I will wait till I see the go-ahead here.
I haven't seen any of those problems (YouTube videos play fine for me). The reason I recommend not waiting to install 10.9.4 is that it and the new Safari both fix a bevy of security issues, including issues that can cause exploitation of your Mac by visiting a specially booby-trapped Web site.
Post by: jcarter on July 07, 2014, 05:26:08 PM
I will do the update right now,,,,,,
Safari seems faster and everything is just fine.
Thanks for the 'courage' to do it.
Jane
Post by: kimmer on July 07, 2014, 06:44:32 PM
Shortly after upgrading to 10.9.x, I started having the "black screen with cursor" when waking my iMac from sleep. By using Google I found some help at the ... wait for this ... Apple support forums. 
They said the black screen was likely an issue with an automatic update that never quite got past the login screen.Here's what I did:
- Shut down my iMac and counted to ten.
- Restarted iMac in safe mode (press shift at startup until I saw the progress bar start moving).
- Logged into admin acct.
- Apple support said that next should be a notice of: "Completing OSX Installation", I never saw that statement. However, my iMac was sluggish and I looked around and sure enough software was being installed. Suddenly the app store opened and said I had lots of stuff to install. I skipped it all (iPages, iPhoto, iThis and iThat), and then I noticed that 10.9.4 was installing and would require a restart. Not sure how that happened as I opt to do this stuff manually, but it was too late.
So, xABD, now you know.
*see posts 6 and 7
Post by: jcarter on July 08, 2014, 05:19:08 AM
The videos on the local news channel do not show any more with this new Safari update.
We were warned of this. I watch the news first thing in the morning, so this is a pain in the tail-feathers. Will use Chrome or Firefox for the news until Apple fixes this one.
Would think Apple would fix this right away, as videos are an important part of the news, and YouTube is very very popular too. Lots of people will be making FF or Chrome their browser of choice for now.
Post by: jcarter on July 08, 2014, 07:36:58 AM
Must be overwhelmed!
Post by: tacit on July 08, 2014, 02:48:38 PM
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Thank you, I dont hit many websites that could be bad, but you never know. Was watching a news site today, and up popped a stupid video, that had nothing to do with the news or weather!I will do the update right now,,,,,,Safari seems faster and everything is just fine.Thanks for the 'courage' to do it.Jane
You don't have to stray far from major good-reputation Web sites to find badness. These days, what malware distributors do is hack legitimate Web sites and plant malware on them. A lot of high-profile Web sites have been hacked and used to spread computer viruses: delta.com, nbc.com, IMDb, ZDnet, the New York Times, and UNICEF's site have all been compromised and used to spread malware at one point or another. It's dangerous to assume you can steer clear of attack just by avoiding dodgy sites. QUOTE(jcarter @ Jul 8 2014, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, Oh!The videos on the local news channel do not show any more with this new Safari update.We were warned of this. I watch the news first thing in the morning, so this is a pain in the tail-feathers. Will use Chrome or Firefox for the news until Apple fixes this one.Would think Apple would fix this right away, as videos are an important part of the news, and YouTube is very very popular too. Lots of people will be making FF or Chrome their browser of choice for now.
For some people, the Safari update seems to be inadvertently turning off browser plugins or Javascript I've seen a lot of folks complain they can't see videos in Safari after the update, and when they check their preferences, Javascript is off, plugins are off, or both.This didn't happen to me, but it's worth looking in to to see if it's the cause of your problems. Run Safari and go to the Safari->Preferences command. Click Security and make sure "Enable JavaScript" is turned on. Click Extensions and make sure extensions are turned on. For whatever reason, the update seems to be turning them off for some people (but strangely, not for everyone).
Post by: jcarter on July 08, 2014, 03:23:22 PM
Some work, some dont. Actually most of my favourite sites do work.
My extensions are OK, plugins OK too. Its just a very few things that dont work, but I can view that news station on FF and Chrome, so Ive just been using them instead.
I have heard that Apple will be giving us an update for Safari in the App store soon. Hope that fixes this bug.
Thank you for explaining this. Gee, the NY Times site got hacked, thats awful. I do check them out sometimes.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 08, 2014, 04:02:56 PM
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JavaScript [...], works fine on my weather sites, and some news sites. But not on my Boston news network. Some work, some dont.
Think about that behavior. If you have javascript enabled in the Safari prefs, it's obviously something that affects individual sites. What do you think you have installed in Safari that might act that way? 
Many tools have settings that let you make specific actions based on the site you visit... You might be amazed at what you find simply by exploring your tools/prefs/etc. It's not magic! It's all based on logic and settings/variables, many of which you can change.
Post by: jcarter on July 08, 2014, 06:20:06 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on July 08, 2014, 07:02:28 PM
In other words, there's no need to hope you have things correct, it's simply up to you to make the correct settings. The computer simply does what you tell it to do... I've found they are extreme poor at reading my mind. OTOH, that might be very difficult to even find!
Post by: sandbox on July 21, 2014, 02:11:55 AM