Post by: Dick Miller on September 18, 2014, 03:55:18 PM
Post by: Bruce_F on September 18, 2014, 05:17:35 PM
Updating my iPad wasn't so straight forward. I had to remove more than half the apps before there was enough room to download the update. Otherwise, it went okay too.
Happy to say: No problems with either my iPhone 5 or iPad Air.
Bruce, I made the reference to my name a link to the thread that notes those cautions. I promise I didn't make any other changes! But thanks for your credit card numbers and checking info.
xABD 
Post by: Dick Miller on September 19, 2014, 02:51:20 PM
Post by: RNKIII on September 19, 2014, 03:27:08 PM
Backed up.
And applied IOS 8 via iTunes.
Only one problem, that I'm aware of.. App called Flyby, for tracking satellites, does not have tracking info available. I can live with this for now.
Full update to about 12-15 minutes total.
Bob K. rnkiii
Post by: Dick Miller on September 19, 2014, 04:05:03 PM
Post by: Dick Miller on September 21, 2014, 10:58:00 AM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 21, 2014, 11:30:05 AM
Seriously, I've not found anything that has ever found a virus, even a PC one, on any Mac. They are somewhat of a "big hammer" at any rate; they often cause more problems than they solve, at least on a Mac running the latest OS. They almost all depend on libraries of known malware/virus codes. But as soon as they are updated (a new virus is detected and announced), the hackers change the coding enough to bypass the 'detector'. Of course, they 'detector' is still useful for watching for files that may come in an email that you forward to another windows user who doesn't use any antivirus s/w. I suppose that group will never cover all windows users.
I think most people eventually find they should be turned off when making downloads from trusted sites. I still always end up returning to ClamXav and run it on start up.
Of course, even Mr. Tessler reported extremely long download and install times on the first day. Too many trying to access the code at the same time. Secondly, the "Installer" only installs itself. The real traffic occurs when the Installer starts downloading the actual OS, a much larger file.
Glad to hear things finally went smoothly and at a reasonable speed!
Have you discovered any "must-have" features? Have you tried "QuickType"?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 23, 2014, 04:29:49 PM
9/24: A new OS sometimes includes new features that are turned ON by default. Apparently, one of them is "Hand Off" in iOS 8. In an effort to stop battery usage, you can turn that feature off, as well as BlueTooth and even WiFi. At least it's fairly easy and fast to use the 'swipe-up-from-the-bottom-of-the-screen' method to access those switches.
(Is there a formal name for: "swipe-up-from-the-bottom-of-the-screen" SUftBotS
Fortunately, there is no 'swiping' involved to close that control panel, just tap on any other part of the screen...)
Post by: jcarter on September 25, 2014, 07:44:33 AM
My grandson got a 'pre-release' and likes it, had it for a while.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 25, 2014, 09:45:52 AM
Post by: dboh on September 25, 2014, 08:35:59 PM
ETA: Asked and answered: http://www.idownloadblog.com/2014/09/24/ho...l-installation/
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 25, 2014, 08:53:17 PM
Might be handy and reassuring to tap Settings->General->About and check the Version info...
Post by: RNKIII on September 25, 2014, 09:50:32 PM
Bob K. rnkiii
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 26, 2014, 08:20:04 AM
maybe their stock price will return to price it lost yesterday.
Post by: dboh on September 27, 2014, 06:05:21 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Sep 25 2014, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you never installed it, just don't. I assume you mean you down loaded it to iTunes?
Disturbingly, it downloaded itself and was patiently waiting for me to install it, but I was able to delete it as in that link I added. Now I'm waiting to see if 8.0.2 explodes on anyone before I add it.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 29, 2014, 02:09:14 PM
I have just finished getting the 8.0.2 update on the iPad. What I have seen in the iDevices is somewhat disturbing. Not that the upgrade/update is causing any problems (this time around
), what bothers me is what the user sees and what Apple does automatically.On the iPad (have not looked on the iPhone, yet), going to the Software Update page (even without a "1" badge on the Settings icon) shows that 8.0.2 is available in one area and a "Downloading..." label appears below all the other text. At first, I thought it was actually "Installing" the update! After all, both words end with "ing"!
Having nerves of steel (and a brain to match) I didn't do anything drastic, no one here today, so screaming would have been in vain! Within mere minutes, I realized that there was no "installing" happening... at least not yet. Finally, the "Downloading" text changed to "Install now". I'm still not sure what was actually 'downloaded'. One would think that an 'installer' app probably, and by the time it took to download, it was huge! More likely, the actual installer and the update was downloaded.If everything was downloaded at once, I think we are putting a lot of faith in the Internet connection as well as the battery condition of the iDevice. I'm sure Apple's servers can easily check on a download completion accurately... "Nothing can go wrong... nothing...". And most users know to plug in a device before a long duration process is started. Unfortunately, "most" can be a long way from "all".
I realize screen space is tight, especially on older iPhones, but I see no reason for not placing more detailed messages about what is going on and why.
On my iPhone, this downloading was all hidden since it happened well after I installed the upgrade and before I looked at Software Update again. And it does show the "1" badge on the Settings icon.
Maybe I'm just getting old and senile... plenty of people have noticed one of those attributes!
I won't say which one but it happens without them knowing my birthdate! 
Post by: Paddy on September 29, 2014, 05:10:31 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 29, 2014, 05:24:03 PM
Also, seems like that "cabin" business is causing a lot of problems...
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 30, 2014, 11:04:13 AM
All you have to do is tap the "Reply" button and the entry box pops up along with the keyboard. Unfortunately, I didn't type fast enough. Notification Center popped up a preview of an email that had just arrived. That covered the Message entry box! I still had the keyboard showing and I could still type, but I couldn't see the reply!
I tried tapping, swiping, doiuble-tapping the Home button, and a little cursing but nothing would get rid of the email notification or hide the keyboard. I finally just shut the iPhone down. There is probably a simple solution for this type of event, I'm just too simple to figure it out. I'll do a bit of searching but I'm not sure it's worth a lot of effort. I'll just avoid the urge to make immediate replies... some of what we call 'life' really can wait...
Post by: jcarter on September 30, 2014, 01:38:55 PM
I deleted all my email, but still for some whacky reason, have 6.2GB of it on the poor phone? Restarted the phone and got it down to about 3 GB. Cant figure out how to delete the rest, as I went thru and deleted all sent, received, and anything else I could get my hands on.
Artlcle in the paper today warning people about iCloud, I haven't bothered with it anyway, as I have a multitude of ext hard drives for all my pictures and artwork.
And plenty of stuff on the web, which as you say, is pretty much the cloud anyway.
Post by: kimmer on October 05, 2014, 01:16:54 PM
QUOTE(Paddy @ Sep 29 2014, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What really makes me mad is that even though I have automatic downloads OFF for updates, my iPad tried to update to iOS 8 by downloading the update!
[snip]
I still don't know WHY, as I checked and sure enough, all automatic downloads/syncing that might use data are OFF.
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I still don't know WHY, as I checked and sure enough, all automatic downloads/syncing that might use data are OFF.
Same here. This update suddenly downloaded (while we were at the clinic, so on their wifi no less), and now Sneakers is constantly bombarded with "upgrade to install" type messages. This kind of stuff is turning him off to his iPad.
I'm still leery of installing this upgrade.
Post by: Paddy on October 06, 2014, 08:43:26 PM
QUOTE(Xairbusdriver @ Oct 5 2014, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have you checked/searched Bing/Google/Apple Support Forums for info on the Pages problem? I think my first choice for Apple S/W problems is still the Support Forms, that's where there will probably be a whole forum just for Pages.
I think there is some confusion about what is being "downloaded". The "automatic download" was nothing more than the Installer for the Updater. It was not the much, much larger and time consuming Updater. In order to get the Updater, you were still required to tap the Install button. At that point the actual Update started to download and the Installer first verified the download was correct/complete and then the update proceeded.
I think there is some confusion about what is being "downloaded". The "automatic download" was nothing more than the Installer for the Updater. It was not the much, much larger and time consuming Updater. In order to get the Updater, you were still required to tap the Install button. At that point the actual Update started to download and the Installer first verified the download was correct/complete and then the update proceeded.
That doesn't explain why my iPad was chewing through 1GB of data in in mere minutes. My friend has monitoring software - after we became aware that there was a problem, he monitored in real time while I checked my email on my iPad. NO way checking 3 email accounts was causing that! (I do that all the time on my phone and my data usage is very minimal). We couldn't figure it out at the time - it wasn't until I got home that it became apparent. I had every other app turned off, and don't have many that use much data; they're all the same pretty much as I have on my iPhone.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 07, 2014, 11:19:31 AM
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That doesn't explain why my iPad was chewing through 1GB of data in in mere minutes.
Unless you have 'Automatic updates' enabled. And I think you said you didn't. I think the rules for Canada might also be different. Apple may not be bi-lingual! I can only report what I experienced. And that is sometimes other than "normal"! 
I hav ben wronge wonce allredy thiz yeer...
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 08, 2014, 09:20:32 AM
Previously, if I wanted/needed to use 1Password in iOS, I had to decide to do some Copy & Paste dancing or use the somewhat less powerful browser built into 1Password. This problems was caused by Apple's policy to "protect" us by not allowing one app from communicating with another in iOS 7 and earlier.Apple has finally created a method for inter-app communications and Agile has taken advantage of it by providing (a free upgrade) 1Password 5 for the new iOS! To save my ramblings, here is a link that describes these great improvements to 1PW at <TidBITS>.
Post by: jcarter on October 08, 2014, 09:24:11 AM
Some good some bad, always 2 sides to new technology.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 08, 2014, 09:49:00 AM
Nor will Apple be able to read it, either.
Post by: jcarter on October 08, 2014, 10:25:03 AM
Even around here in our little quiet village, our bank was robbed, and not solved. For some crazy reason, the FBI was involved and thus, the local video from the bank was NOT released!
Most of us are pretty sure we know down to 2 or 3 local perps, who did it. But not being able to view the videos, none of us can help.
The hardware store video was very distant, but oh, that guy sure looks familiar, the bank video would seal it for sure.
I would think that in case of something really serious, or threatening, like terrorist activity, that a confiscated cell phone info should be accessable.
Scary.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 08, 2014, 12:43:58 PM
Post by: jcarter on October 08, 2014, 02:11:56 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 08, 2014, 04:25:05 PM
I assume that the bank is covered by the FDIC? The key word there, and the reason for the FBI, is 'Federal'. It's the "F" word in both those agencies.
Post by: jcarter on October 08, 2014, 05:15:20 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 15, 2014, 10:48:16 AM
Post by: jcarter on October 15, 2014, 01:01:32 PM
Lots of bomb threats recently being called in to high schools and colleges, what if they all become untraceable?
And worse?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 15, 2014, 01:32:06 PM
False reporting has probably even been done with smoke signals or drums in the jungle.
Post by: jcarter on October 15, 2014, 01:50:07 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 15, 2014, 04:17:06 PM
Post by: jcarter on October 15, 2014, 05:07:35 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 17, 2014, 05:23:18 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 17, 2014, 03:52:44 PM