Post by: kimmer on October 16, 2014, 11:18:27 PM
BTW, who in the world thought a bright red icon is pretty for a music program? Especially after all these years of lovely blue, when the icon was identifiable? Personally, I think they need to be demoted back to the sandbox with a box of BLUE crayons.
Post by: Paddy on October 17, 2014, 12:11:58 PM
QUOTE(kimmer @ Oct 17 2014, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oops. I accidentally installed iTunes 12 and would like to go back to iTunes 11. I have backup in both TM and SuperDuper. Is it possible to go backwards (and keep my music library), and what's the best way to do this? Also, do I have to reinstall my music libraries? I'm guessing yes.
BTW, who in the world thought a bright red icon is pretty for a music program? Especially after all these years of lovely blue, when the icon was identifiable? Personally, I think they need to be demoted back to the sandbox with a box of BLUE crayons.
BTW, who in the world thought a bright red icon is pretty for a music program? Especially after all these years of lovely blue, when the icon was identifiable? Personally, I think they need to be demoted back to the sandbox with a box of BLUE crayons.
With a complete backup, it should work ok. Otherwise, you cannot use the newer library with the older iTunes - you do need to reinstall your backed up libraries.
Other than the icon color, what's the issue?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 17, 2014, 02:55:08 PM
I'd suggest NOT doing anything with the new app that might write anything to the current Libraries.
If you have backups of both the Libraries and the app, move the current stuff somewhere (Desktop) and archive/compress them. Then trash the real items. That should prevent anything trying to open the new app plus prevent the current Libraries from being used, in case they have already been converted to what V. 12 wants.
Now you can use Time Machine to find the old version and Restore it. Lastly, find the Libraries via TM and Restore those. Both items should end up exactly where the old ones were.
Alternately, leave things where they are and then do the TM Restore. You'll be asked to "Keep both", "Replace" or something else, I can't remember (maybe install someplace different?). Perhaps you'll be asked to report to Apple why you don't like red, also!
I'd also like to know what your other disappointments are with the new version. I don't use it for much, anymore, besides contacting the Mother Ship for iDevice Backups.
Perhaps this will make you feel better? At least you'll know you have company...
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Jordan Orlando wrote:
I just installed the new iTunes and it seriously is making me understand how sadomasochists must feel.
I just installed the new iTunes and it seriously is making me understand how sadomasochists must feel.
Post by: kimmer on October 19, 2014, 09:29:07 PM
A required iTunes component is not installed. Please reinstall iTunes. (-42401)
Every thread I follow about this deal with win machines, not Macs. The few threads with same alert, but different alert number, on Macs have no answers—at least that I've found. Any ideas?
QUOTE(Paddy @ Oct 17 2014, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Other than the icon color, what's the issue?
What don't I like about iTunes 12 besides the red icon? I don't like the extra little window that got for the player. I very much like the way it works in 11 (and earlier). In my short time trying to use it, I couldn't find my podcasts. I'm sure they're there, but I didn't have time or patience to search for them. I hated the "look", couldn't find the sidebar, it messed up my playlists and trying to fix those would require much more time than I'm willing to spend. At this rate, I'll switch to my Amazon player. It's but-t ugly, but works easier.
*How to uninstall: log in as admin, get info on application, unlock it, under sharing and permissions set every person to "Read/Write". Then you drag application to trash.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 19, 2014, 10:10:18 PM
But I can tell you how I (finally) found the Side Bar: In the 'toolbar' (which is no longer actually editable/modifiable, at least via the "View->Customize Toolbar..." menu in most Apple Apps), on the extreme left side are three icons. One for music, movies, TV shows, and one for "...". Click the music 'note' and you should see all your music. 
But that still doesn't get the Side Bar (Playlists), of course. 
Well, it might, it depends on what you have selected in the Tool Bar on the extreme right side. That is not an icon but a text label. If it says "Songs" you get to see a list of songs. It can also say, "Albums, Artists, Composers and Genres". But no matter what it says, you should still have your playlist(s). Of course, your milage may vary...An alternate method is to click on the "Playlists" label bear the center of the window. If you click "My Music" (or anything else in that list!) you'll lose the Side Bar. I don't know why; it's just the way things are!
As for your Podcasts, they are plainly available if you click on the obvious 'label' called "..." Where else would you think it was/is?!
Any Mac user should know that "..." means "other stuff we didn't want to list". 
For you boobies, simply hover your cursor (not your mouse!) over the labels and Apple will kindly display some descriptive text... assuming you don't 'giggle' the cursor too much...BTW, if you want to sync/update/backup/etc. with your iDevices, you need to click the never before seen icon representing those things. It looks like a rectangle sitting on one of it's short sides and there is a small break in the line drawing that short/bottom side. I think that indicates where the power/charging cable plugs in.
That newly discovered icon sits just to the right of those music, movie, TV shows, and "..." icons. There is also a very thin, gray vertical line separating the rectangle/iDevice thingy. Apparently there is a law in California prohibiting joining those things! Anyway, clicking that rectangle will show you a list of any recognized iDevices. Unfortunately, this version of iTunes did not fix the loss of contact with iPhones sitting in the same proximity of the Mac (and the WiFi router). I can see that my iPad, sitting in the adjoining room is recognized but the only way to 'see' the (newer) iPhone is to use a USB cable. It's a known problem and Apple's "fix" is to print a page telling you devices must be connected via cables. DOH! QUOTE
I don't like the extra little window that got for the player.
I would be hard pressed to tell you what the old one looks like, so I have no opinion on whether the 'new' one is better or worse. I did manage to open it simply by clicking everything on the window just to see what happened. Luckily, nothing was booby trapped and the app never exploded! Hope you get your old install working. I doubt I ever open iTunes again unless I want to back up my iDevices to the Mac.
"I came. I saw. I was unimpressed."
But I really like the new bright red app icon...
Post by: kimmer on October 20, 2014, 12:45:36 AM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 20, 2014, 09:04:56 AM
Post by: Paddy on October 20, 2014, 01:38:51 PM
Post by: kimmer on October 20, 2014, 09:15:29 PM
Okay, I was inspired by some comments on the TidBITS list, I started clicking around and hovering my mouse over things and I found this itsy-bitsy box (probably easily seen by those with younger eyes) and clicked on it and POOF, away went the big mini window and now I have my old mini player back.
Post by: Gary S on October 21, 2014, 12:10:37 PM
All my stuff is in iTunes 12 as before but I have a whole lot more Podcasts than I did before but they are all in the Cloud so, I guess it's alright.