Post by: Al on November 14, 2002, 11:06:00 PM
Please leave your remarks, likes and dislikes about NS7.
I would like to know because I just installed it on my B&W with Jaguar and found it so far really nice in certain areas and a little odd in other areas.
I like the speed, it is fast and so far stable. I set the disk cache at 0 and set the memory cache at 8MB's. Causing all cache to be in memory, this has seemed to help the speed in rendering pages extremely.
One dislike is when I type in a web site name in the location field I always get a search engine page with it's results. I then would have to find and click on the link from the search engine. In IE if I type a web page name, IE usually fills in the ".com" part of the URL when I hit enter. Much more convenient than NS7.
Overall, I like it, but I am so used to not filling in the last part of a URL, that that will take a little getting used to.
Post by: WDL on November 14, 2002, 11:30:00 PM
I liked it very much - particularly the speed - and the manual that came with the CD.
However, I've gone to Mozilla 1.1 (free) which permits setting the Preferences to reject popup ads, both over/under.
As you know, Netscape is developed from Mozilla - however, in Netscape the feature to reject popups is missing.
Try Mozilla - except for the name, you'll think you're in Netscape.
Tip: Leave your Netscape on your hard drive - Mozilla will automatically pickup all your bookmarks, addresses etc. If you remove Netscape, you'll have to set up Mozilla from scratch.
WDL
Post by: Gary S on November 14, 2002, 12:09:00 PM
Al,
I had the same problem with adding a an addy. Prefs->Navigator-Search using Netscape search.
I think there is another thing you have to do but I forgot. Do a search for Netscape 7. I think Dreambird had the solution. I'll try and find it to.
Post by: Reiddm on November 14, 2002, 05:54:00 PM
Post by: Audone on November 14, 2002, 06:26:00 PM
Post by: Dreambird on November 14, 2002, 06:33:00 PM
I've managed to find the solutions to problems with the naviagtion bar in the release notes for NS7 under Known Bugs>Navigator.
Might be worth trying what it says in there for your problem... Gary's problem I think was more one of not going "anywhere" when he entered a URL... I've never had a problem, and it sure shouldn't be taking you to a search engine!
http://wp.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/ns7/rel...notes/7pv1.html
Might have a look throught those for your problem too Audone... hopefully you'll find something...
Post by: jepinto on November 14, 2002, 08:39:00 PM
My pet peeve is still being "locked out" when sending a message. BUT I have found a work around somewhat. command-shift-return sends the mail to the "Unsent Folder". With the mail window open, go File>Send Unsent Messages you can now surf, read other mail while your messages are going out.
Post by: themagpie on November 14, 2002, 09:10:00 PM
Margie
Post by: Al on November 15, 2002, 12:16:00 AM
I found out that if I have previously visited a web site then NS7 will fill the URL endings, but if it is the first time requesting a web site it takes me to a search engine first, everytime.
Margie, I guess I was lucky, when I first started up NS7 yesterday, I didn't enter my information for AIM, so since then AIM has never started up. Didn't cause I too usually use iChat now. Infact since I am trying Jagaur more and more, I only want to use NS7 for internet browsing and web page composing.
Speaking of which, before we could delete certain packages from being installed (talkback, AIM, etc...), but now it is all bundled under one file.
Thanks for the replies, keep em coming!
Post by: Bill on November 15, 2002, 12:30:00 AM
The really only reason why I keep NS around is web composing, correct size image downloads. IE bloats image downloads. The other browsers ... don't know about or care.
Post by: chriskleeman on November 15, 2002, 12:41:00 AM
Post by: sunset on November 15, 2002, 01:49:00 AM
Most of the features I thought were missing in the email part are actually there but show up differently in this version. Also found some cool things that have been added in but these were discovered gradually after using the program for a while--now I'm glad I 'switched' and like it better the longer I use it.
One other comment... I get no pop-up ads and until I read comments on this thread, I'd forgotten all about them. I wonder if this could be the answer to that problem: Not too long ago I dl'd Mozilla 1.1 and tried it as was suggested by one of our posters. At that time, I went into the Prefs., in 'M 1.1', and selected not to receive pop-up ads. Now that I'm back in NS 7.0, [cuz 'M' was missing some things] I get absolutely '0'. That's the only logical explanation I can think of for not being bothered by them 'cause I used to get a ton in NC 4xx.
Hope something here helps someone with his/her problems--good luck!
Post by: Bernie on November 15, 2002, 07:20:00 AM
Post by: gunug on November 15, 2002, 10:58:00 AM
Post by: Al on November 15, 2002, 11:39:00 PM
Really, it is not turning out to be a big problem, I am getting used to it....
[ 11-17-2002, 09:29 AM: Message edited by: Al ]
Post by: Steve_J on November 15, 2002, 12:44:00 PM
David, #1155, are you a model train buff? I'm building a G scale garden railroad.
Post by: Gary S on November 15, 2002, 03:15:00 PM
Once I used to it, Netscape 4x and IE were in the dust. There still are a few sites that are made for IE soI keep it around and I keep Netscape 4x on here also because the new versions of Netscape pick up everything like-helper apps, bookmarks, address books etc. from it.
Post by: Reiddm on November 15, 2002, 09:00:00 PM
BTW, I use Eudora for my e-mail, Netscape did not handle multiple e-mail accounts in the old days... and I do not know if it does now but I'm use to Eudora! ;~)'
Post by: RogerF on November 16, 2002, 08:02:00 AM
Since the time Sunset showed me how to manipulate Netscape thru Mozilla docs, I've resolved import/export problems and thats been great. I like almost everything about NS7 except;
Some sites are just not friendly to NS, others are downright hostile.
Wife likes (loves, craves, is in fact addicted to) a site called Pogo. Seems they have a bingo game there. (if the choice is bingo or Judge Judy; take bingo it's been shown to cause somewhat less brain damage).
She can only access this site thru M$. Can't make it work in NS. Don't know why.
Since 'Pogo" can only be accessed thru M$, I would gleefully erase M$ Internet Explorer from my disk with the result I would get my wife back and at the same time away from this insidious menace; but I do need that browser for work purposes.
What to do, What to do?
-R
Post by: RHPConsult on November 16, 2002, 01:24:00 PM
What a blessing that would be.
(If RogerF can do it, I should be able to )
Is WDL the only one who got the CD (+ Manual)? I sense he thinks that was a very good idea.
Is NS 7.x exclusively for OSX?
[ 11-16-2002, 02:26 PM: Message edited by: RHPConsult ]
Post by: sokukodo on November 16, 2002, 04:15:00 PM
Post by: pendragon on November 16, 2002, 05:34:00 PM
Harv
Post by: jepinto on January 16, 2003, 11:53:00 PM
quote:Al: I just found this. It may help with the autofilling of the address.
Originally posted by Al:
....but I am so used to not filling in the last part of a URL, that that will take a little getting used to.
Post by: sandbox on January 16, 2003, 12:43:00 PM
Post by: Gregg on January 16, 2003, 12:56:00 PM
Post by: jcarter on January 16, 2003, 05:56:00 PM
Found that N7 won't show my scrolling cursor on my page, and a friend told me that it was that N7 was an AOl product, and that's why that part is missing.
Just use the browser you want for what you want to see.
Post by: Reiddm on January 16, 2003, 06:32:00 PM
Now if Apple is reading this, how about tabbed windows, until that happens, most of the browser work is Netscape 7.01 for me!
Post by: Bill on January 16, 2003, 06:58:00 PM
it's been so long I can't really recall but I suspect it had to many bells & whistles for my small (email) use. Probably didn't need all the tented windows just for checking/retrieving mail and web design when NS 4xx does the same.
Post by: Al on January 16, 2003, 09:14:00 PM
I agree with David, get some tabbed browsing features and Safari may take over once it gets out of the beta stage.
Post by: Gregg on January 17, 2003, 07:48:00 AM
quote:Why do you prefer N4 for e-mail?
Originally posted by jcarter:
I use N7 for stuff that my N4 won't handle, but use N4 for my mail.
Post by: Bernie on January 17, 2003, 08:04:00 AM
Post by: Gary S on January 17, 2003, 12:15:00 PM
[ 01-17-2003, 01:16 PM: Message edited by: Gary S ]
Post by: jcarter on January 17, 2003, 12:36:00 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 19, 2003, 09:48:00 PM
So far, I'm definitely under-enthuzed (sp?) !
My $0.01:
I'm never impressed with buttons/text that don't fit on a window. Sure sign of amateur programming/testing. Apparently the prefs window uses HTML, which may explain part of that plus the non-mac like and slightly clumsy gui there. Maybe it's just a windows port!
Second, and most important to me. For some reason, I can't get this version to use Shared Menues (URLM Pro), even in 9.1. I simply will not give up that program!
Third, I don't see any speed improvement, but that is not after any extensive testing, just my first impressions.
Other minor things are the too tall location text box area. The box is OK, but how can I get rid of the "Search" button and those space-wasting Back/etc. buttons? those should be in another 'bar' so I can get rid of them all! Then the text area could be much shorter, maybe gain another whole line of text on a site. That's what I want a browser to show me, the site, not its skins/trinkets/etc. Just stay out of my way and let me surf!
And what on earth are those tab things?! More space wasting! At least they can be removed.
<rant>
Finally, I don't need/want another e-mail client, I like what I've got, thank you very much. I think I managed to not install that component. So why not give me the option of not installing the Composer? I don't need/want that part either. Why not make a product that does what I want ( a fast, CSS2-compliant, HTML-standards supporting web browser ) and leave that other stuff for those that know how to build them?!</rant>
As for the pop-up stopping, that's already available by other means. And I was able to get the stupid User Profiles barrier to disappear by deleting the "Default User." That helps the opening times a little. I suppose I could just keep the location text bar closed, that's how I run IE, anyway, I so seldom type in any url's...
Oh well, gotta got tell URLM Pro to forget about NS 7 Just watch for IE opening and start up them.
Oh yeah, it crashed on me last night. But it may have been a memory problem, had IE, URLMP, NS 7, Eudora, Mariner Write, icWord, and several other apps running at once.
Jim C.
Post by: jepinto on January 20, 2003, 01:54:00 PM
quote:Preferences>Navigator Bottom right pane. Start UNchecking everything you don't want showing.
but how can I get rid of the "Search" button and those space-wasting Back/etc. buttons? those should be in another 'bar' so I can get rid of them all! Then the text area could be much shorter, maybe gain another whole line of text on a site. That's what I want a browser to show me, the site, not its skins/trinkets/etc. Just stay out of my way and let me surf!
-edit-I just found out you can also go to View>Show/Hide and select which bars you show. I just hid the component bar, like you, I don't use Composer and I am sure not using IM, and for Mail and Newsgroups, I'm used to going to Window>Mail& Newsgroups or Command-2.
[ 01-20-2003, 02:58 PM: Message edited by: jepinto ]
Post by: danf63 on January 20, 2003, 04:56:00 PM
Dan
Post by: Bernie on January 20, 2003, 08:20:00 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on January 20, 2003, 09:42:00 PM
Now, for something completely different...
Is Bernie throwing his hat into the ring for "site artist?!" You got my vote!
Jim C.
Post by: Dreambird on February 03, 2003, 06:30:00 PM
I remember that Jennie had figured it out... but don't remember what thread it was... and of course I never thought to bookmark it... duh!