Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 20, 2016, 01:53:23 PM
Strangely, I was just at the Mac App Store prior to posting this and there was nothing in the "Updates" area except Safari and iBooks Author. I guess I just didn't pay attention to the App Store 'home' page...
Post by: kimmer on September 20, 2016, 04:12:07 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 20, 2016, 06:26:22 PM
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I'll wait and see what others think.
More importantly, what problems are discovered! Those 'bleeding edgers' always point out those little details! 😝
Post by: jchuzi on September 20, 2016, 08:02:50 PM
Post by: daryl66 on September 21, 2016, 11:00:23 AM
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Not me. I'll wait at least until 10.12.2 is available.
me 3
Post by: beacher on September 21, 2016, 01:24:10 PM
Post by: gunug on September 21, 2016, 01:26:22 PM
black Mac Pro cylinders). I'm not in the same boat so I'll wait until that blows over to see what the damage was!
Post by: jchuzi on September 21, 2016, 01:29:33 PM
Post by: Paddy on September 21, 2016, 06:23:00 PM
Post by: Paddy on September 21, 2016, 07:09:04 PM
1. no ability to set minimum font size in Safari 10. (Mine isn't set, so that isn't likely to be an issue for me, but others may have trouble). You can zoom, but that makes EVERYTHING bigger, so in some cases the edge of the page disappears, requiring sideways scrolling. Not an acceptable substitute - what on earth was Apple thinking??
Other than that, it's mostly issues related to downloading Sierra/installing - the same sort of thing you tend to see with any update. So...when I find the time...
Post by: Bruce_F on September 22, 2016, 09:28:33 AM
Post by: gunug on September 23, 2016, 09:03:29 AM
Post by: Bruce_F on September 23, 2016, 10:58:42 AM
Post by: kimmer on September 23, 2016, 03:54:38 PM
I'm still waiting for 10.2 or better.
Post by: jchuzi on September 24, 2016, 08:16:29 AM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 24, 2016, 10:14:44 AM
I don't even know if it will run in El Capita! Well, at least I now know it does. Haven't opened it in years! 
No idea if he 'patch' would be of any use in my case, anyway.
Post by: Paddy on September 24, 2016, 03:52:03 PM
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I'm planning on reviving FileMaker Pro (11.0v4) in a few weeks! Hope you're not throwing water on that plan. I don't even know if it will run in El Capita! Well, at least I now know it does. Haven't opened it in years! No idea if he 'patch' would be of any use in my case, anyway.
I don't even know if it will run in El Capita! Well, at least I now know it does. Haven't opened it in years! No idea if he 'patch' would be of any use in my case, anyway.You can always look these things up at http://roaringapps.com - which, BTW, reports that 11.0v4 does indeed work in El Cap. Nobody has reported on it there for Sierra yet.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 24, 2016, 03:57:10 PM
No interweb connection needed! 
Post by: Paddy on September 24, 2016, 04:08:03 PM
Haven't tested extensively yet, of course, but so far, so good.
May even install on the iMac.
Post by: kimmer on September 24, 2016, 04:19:00 PM
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Haven't tested extensively yet, of course, but so far, so good. May even install on the iMac.
May even install on the iMac.Do you have CS6? If so, does it run?
Post by: jchuzi on September 24, 2016, 05:30:56 PM
Post by: Dreambird on September 25, 2016, 06:35:06 AM
Besides... I want to see when the next time my ex drops by... fall over when I "talk" to my computer... call her Siri and get an answer...
He won't do a single thing by computer... would rather drive all over town and then complain about the waste of pricey gas. He loves to needle me about about my "new fangled" things so... ???
I am extremely glad to hear Photoshop CS6 is working... have no desire to fork out for that upgrade just yet.
Post by: eric j on September 26, 2016, 08:17:58 AM
https://www.macintouch.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=625
eric j
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 26, 2016, 11:08:18 AM
Post by: Paddy on September 27, 2016, 06:45:47 PM
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QUOTE(Paddy @ Sep 24 2016, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haven't tested extensively yet, of course, but so far, so good. May even install on the iMac.
May even install on the iMac.Do you have CS6? If so, does it run?
Yes - it runs fine, from what I can tell. I've had no issues in Photoshop CS6 - forgot I was even running a new OS.
I will be one unhappy camper when CS6 ceases to function, as it no doubt will at some point after some future update. I LOATHE Adobe's subscription model and will likely try my darnedest to find something else to use instead. Unfortunately, nothing out there is quite there yet - though there are many apps getting much closer to being Photoshop-killers. InDesign is another kettle of fish - there is no really good substitute for it, and I sure as heck am not going back to Quirk. Er...Quark. However, there is hope. Serif, who have the Affinity line of apps (and a great photo app from the looks of it - I've yet to try it) have Affinity Publisher set for beta release at the end of this year.https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/about/ - they offer trial versions as well.
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/so...-1295010/review
Post by: jchuzi on September 27, 2016, 07:10:12 PM
Post by: kimmer on September 28, 2016, 11:08:49 AM
Thanks for the info on Affinity. I'll go check out those links.
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QUOTE(kimmer @ Sep 24 2016, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Paddy @ Sep 24 2016, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haven't tested extensively yet, of course, but so far, so good. May even install on the iMac.
May even install on the iMac.Do you have CS6? If so, does it run?
Yes - it runs fine, from what I can tell. I've had no issues in Photoshop CS6 - forgot I was even running a new OS.
I will be one unhappy camper when CS6 ceases to function, as it no doubt will at some point after some future update. I LOATHE Adobe's subscription model and will likely try my darnedest to find something else to use instead. Unfortunately, nothing out there is quite there yet - though there are many apps getting much closer to being Photoshop-killers. InDesign is another kettle of fish - there is no really good substitute for it, and I sure as heck am not going back to Quirk. Er...Quark. However, there is hope. Serif, who have the Affinity line of apps (and a great photo app from the looks of it - I've yet to try it) have Affinity Publisher set for beta release at the end of this year.https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/about/ - they offer trial versions as well.
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/so...-1295010/review
Post by: Xairbusdriver on September 28, 2016, 11:39:42 AM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on October 24, 2016, 09:25:52 PM
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a standalone download isn’t yet available.
According to today's TidBITs. 
additional good advice:
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it’s probably worth downloading sooner rather than later for Sierra users, given that this is Sierra’s initial bug fix update. If you haven’t yet updated to Sierra but are planning to soon, hold off for another week to make sure 10.12.1 hasn’t introduced some new problem.
Emphasis added...
Post by: beacher on October 25, 2016, 03:52:52 PM
Post by: jchuzi on October 27, 2016, 11:20:43 AM
Otherwise, everything went smoothly and, so far, all seems well. I had to update Glimmer Blocker, Cocktail, OnyX, TinkerTool and TinkerTool System to their respective Sierra versions.
Post by: jwboyd on October 27, 2016, 01:00:06 PM
Joe
Post by: jchuzi on October 27, 2016, 06:35:37 PM
Is this just me or is App Store temporarily out of service?
EDIT: More info
I knew from MacUpdate and CNET which apps were being updated. I launched App Store and clicked the link for Apps Made By Apple. I was able to individually download and install them. As each was installed, the number of Updates Available was reduced by one. Finally, I launched iTunes and was informed of an update being available. I downloaded the update directly via iTunes, which opened the Updates pane of App Store. After the installation was complete, that pane told me that no updates were available but it also did not list updates installed in the last 30 days (which it did before).
Post by: Gary S on October 31, 2016, 10:54:21 AM
Paddy,
Affinity Photo looks pretty good for $50.00! Have you worked with the trial at all? If so what did you think?
Post by: jchuzi on November 02, 2016, 07:41:07 PM
How did this happen?
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 02, 2016, 08:27:41 PM
Post by: jchuzi on November 03, 2016, 06:34:46 AM
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You should always check the level of bit glue in your computer before upgrading the OS. You usually don't know you need a refill until something like you experienced happens.
Thanks for your usual sage advice, Jim. Do you recommend Gorilla Glue, epoxy, Super Glue, or a different brand?
Post by: kimmer on November 03, 2016, 10:20:34 AM
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I just saw a glitch in the update to Sierra from El Cap. All the events that I had entered into Calendar were missing. Fortunately, I had made a clone of the El Cap system before updating so I was able to boot into it and retrieve the entries.
How did this happen?
How did this happen?
If you find out more about this glitch, please let us/me know. I've not yet upgraded, so I'm making notes on what may happen.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on November 03, 2016, 01:21:49 PM
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Do you recommend Gorilla Glue, epoxy, Super Glue, or a different brand?
Absolutely do NOT use any of those brands! You will void your warranty! 
Use nothing but the Apple brand that is made exclusively for them by some folks in China from a rare breed of bird's nests! Be sure to get the "Extra Virgin" (not for human consumption) type, otherwise, there can be bits of nesting material in the glue!QUOTE
Thanks for your usual sage advice
Not sure who you are talking to there. Only sage we have in the house is the dried kind in a small bottle in the pantry. We get it from a local restaurant once a year when the sweep the kitchen floor. 
Post by: Paddy on November 03, 2016, 06:10:35 PM
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I won't be upgrading soon. El Capitan is working fine. I'll wait a while as usual and see what problems develop.
Paddy,
Affinity Photo looks pretty good for $50.00! Have you worked with the trial at all? If so what did you think?
Paddy,
Affinity Photo looks pretty good for $50.00! Have you worked with the trial at all? If so what did you think?
No - haven't had time. Will try to do so soon...just need to wade through a bunch of work first. "Retirement" seems to be eluding me.
Post by: Gary S on November 04, 2016, 02:35:15 PM
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Will try to do so soon..
I did and I don't think it's worth it. It does a lot but you can't save as a .jpg. It has it's own format something like .photo or something like that.
It's for people that use the Photo App. as far as I can discern.
Let me know if you do try it and you can save a file in the JPEG or a PSD format.
I couldn't. And certainly no hurry, I know you have a lot going on.
Post by: jchuzi on November 04, 2016, 02:37:34 PM