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Title: USB key ..???
Post by: ADSR on March 14, 2021, 05:40:44 PM
Hi,
Just format my usb key in  my macbook  OS 10.6.8 , copy files , than try to transfer   to my old mac  OS 9.5 as usual ...
Get a  warning this disk is unreadable by this computer...do you want to initialise ?
So i try to initialise from 9.5 ...than go to the macbook
The key is showing on the desktop , but i can't copy any file to it...  :wallbash:
what's wrong..?
Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: krissel on March 15, 2021, 12:53:57 AM
Hi Rodi, I see you figured out where to post. Sorry to be so late to reply.


A bit confused... there is no OS 9.5. The last 9 was 9.2.2.


Any particular reason you initialized from 9? Try initializing from 10.6.8 and then try to copy files.
Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: ADSR on March 15, 2021, 05:23:39 AM
Hi Krissel,
Thanks for your reply ...for posting...the new topic  reappear i don't know how

For initializing...i try both OS ,and get the same problem... what can  i do wrong, never get this problem before   :Thinking:
Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: ADSR on March 15, 2021, 06:20:44 AM
Hi,
Reformated the key whith 10.6.8...
Copy the files but when i insert the key to my old mac 9.2 ...
get unreadable , do you want to format???

What could be the problem...?
Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: krissel on March 15, 2021, 07:40:17 AM
How are you formatting the drive? FAT? HFS? Master Boot?  Try different ones. Also can you connect the two Macs with an ethernet cable and transfer files that way?


Here are a couple threads to check out. Maybe something will fit your situation:


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1394286 (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1394286)


https://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,589123,589352 (https://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,589123,589352)


Failing all that, it just may be that the drive is no longer usable. They do fail.
Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 15, 2021, 02:57:05 PM
What is "OS 9.5". As Kriss said, the last version of "9" was 9.2.2 in 2001, 20 years ago.

I think 9.2.2 used "HFS", I think "HFS+" can read that file system. I would doubt that "HFS" can read newer formats. :dntknw:
Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: ADSR on March 15, 2021, 06:09:09 PM
Hi,

 Key formated  Mac os étendu ...as usual ;
tried  also  another usb key
I used to do that for years exchanging files from the mackbook to the  quicksilve easily....

Is the first time i got this problem ... :Thinking: :wallbash:
Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 15, 2021, 07:03:26 PM
We used to call using a thumb drive to transfer files was called “sneaker-net”. :toothgrin: “sneakers” referring to casual footwear. The “network” was simply walking from one desk to the next! :thumbup:

Still not sure what version of the Mac OS you have on the “old” computer. Perhaps the “A propos de ce Mac” menu will help. Please excuse my ‘French’,  :blush-anim-cl:
Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: krissel on March 16, 2021, 01:05:21 AM
Check the OS 9 extensions folder for the following:If anything is missing you may need to reinstall OS 9 and update to 9.2.2
Other ideas:
Try running Disk Utility (repair) on the thumb drive.

Sounds silly but have you restarted both Macs? Unplugged, wait a minute, plug in and restart?
Could any of the ports be damaged? Worn out?
Try compressing (stuffing) a few files first, then see if they will copy.
Intentionally format drive as DOS/FAT and try again.

Is there a third Mac somewhere you can try out the flash drives?
Last resort is to reinstall 10.6.8.  After that, I'm out of ideas.  :unsure:
Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: ADSR on March 17, 2021, 09:18:55 AM
Intentionally format drive as DOS/FAT and try again.

That works !!!  :clap:
don't know why ??? never format the key that way....
 :thanx: Krissel

Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: ADSR on March 17, 2021, 03:12:57 PM
Another strange thing....
Once the key is now accecpted in my old mac ( 9.2.2)
Saved an audio mix on it, and can be  read  on this mac...

Transferred to the macbook (1O.6.8) , if i double click  it.... launches Terminal  and get

Last login: Wed Mar 17 20:52:41 on ttys000
/Volumes/SANS\ TITRE/STEPH\ IFF ; exit;
monmac:~ monmac$ /Volumes/SANS\ TITRE/STEPH\ IFF ; exit;
-bash: /Volumes/SANS TITRE/STEPH IFF: cannot execute binary file
logout

[Opération terminée]
Maybe due to the formating DOS/FAT...?

What can i do..? :Thinking:
Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 17, 2021, 03:55:56 PM
Three short questions:

1. Do you have any "audio mix" files that work normally? If you do, what is the suffix on those files; could be ".aiff", ".aac", ".wav", ".mp3" or something else.

2. On what app do you normally play those files?

Quote
/Volumes/SANS\ TITRE/STEPH\ IFF
It appears that you have a directory/folder named "SANS TITRE" (Eng="Untitled"), is that correct? The "\ " is bash's attempt to designate that the following character is NOT to be interpreted as part of a command nor a flag or a space between flag or other terms. It is to be used as simply a space between two parts of text. It can easily confuse operating systems that did not allow spaces in file or folder names.

Inside that "SANS TITRE" directory/folder, you have a file (or folder) named "STEPH IFF".
3. Is that the name of an "audio file"?

There is a quite old suffix, "iff", that is/was used by Amiga computers, but it should still have a dot (period), as in ".iff", to designate the suffix. Of course, I doubt any Mac app will 'know' what to do with an "Amiga Interchange File". :dntknw:

"AIFF" is a high quality audio format. I wonder if is ".A" somehow got left out of the name. :Thinking:
Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: krissel on March 18, 2021, 02:51:30 AM
First, don't doubleclick to open. Try opening it from a particular application that would normally deal with that file.


Jim has a point in that it is being recognized as an executable file which opened Terminal instead of the application you may expect. So something is missing that identifies the file correctly.



Not sure if it applies in this case but might have something to do with DOS not able to properly carry both forks of certain Mac files.


Try taking the file you want to transfer and use Stuffit or some method of compression on the file while on the OS 9 Mac, then transfer it and see if it can be opened on the newer Mac by specific applications. If that is the case, you may have to do the same in reverse.
Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: ADSR on March 18, 2021, 04:19:38 AM
Three short questions:

1. Do you have any "audio mix" files that work normally? If you do, what is the suffix on those files; could be ".aiff", ".aac", ".wav", ".mp3" or something else.

Tried diferents savings....
Saving as wav ,or AIFF on my old computer (9.2.2) now  ...now can be read on  Macbook (10.6.8)whith itunes ..!  ??
.
2. On what app do you normally play those files?

My old sequencer  Opcode STUDIO VISION PRO.... if it's AIFF i can import normally, if it's Wav i must use an option : import audio using quictime   
If not using that option the Wav file is not visible when i try to import...
 Is that the name of an "audio file"?

 Inside that "SANS TITRE" directory/folder, you have a file (or folder) named "STEPH IFF".

3. Is that the name of an "audio file"?


Sans titre is the name of the Key...STEPH IFF was the audio file

A bit lost whith all that.. :Thinking:
Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: Xairbusdriver on March 18, 2021, 12:29:49 PM
Not at my Mac right now but I think the best we can do is to determine what the correct file suffix should be.
You should now be able to see the “STEPH IFF” file and the suffix.
What is the suffix?

Additionally, I would request that you re-name the file with either a “-“ or a “_” in place of the Space between the “H” and the “I”. The new name would not have any spaces in it; for example, “STEPH_IFF.suffix

Hopefully, you can now copy the file to the thumb drive and then the OS 9 computer and it will be recognized correctly. :yes:
Title: Re: USB key ..???
Post by: ADSR on March 19, 2021, 02:18:28 AM
Formating  DOS/FAT i can write and read the files on both Macs ...

All my old keys   formated MacOS , used to exchange  files between  these two macs  were  working ok..

Now  as soon as i plug one of them to my 9.2.2 Mac  get "do you want to initialise"  ...

:wallbash: