Post by: Fiona on August 10, 2003, 08:47:30 PM
There are three major newspapers in Toronto, Ontario. Two of them open with ease. The third causes a freeze if I click on a link and also when I type in the address. Does anyone know why this would happen?
Post by: JohnKentucky on August 10, 2003, 09:01:56 PM
Post by: Xairbusdriver on August 10, 2003, 09:52:01 PM
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There are three major newspapers in Toronto, Ontario. Two of them open with ease.
Don't buy the one that doesn't open easily! Two papers a day, from the same area, should be sufficient, anyway 
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The third causes a freeze if I click on a link and also when I type in the address.
Even in the Summer?! I know it gets cold up there, but you should complain to the authorities, if you are having freezes in the middle of the summer! 
I'm not sure why you would 'click' on the addresses you see in a paper, anyway. Maybe you have been using the computer too much lately! 'Clicking' only works in a browser or in some e-mail.
BTW, I recently learned that 'clicking' a phone number will not dial the phone, even if I pick up the receiver first!
Also, instead of typing on the newspaper, try using regular paper, preferably clean, non-used paper, it will be much easier to read your typing than when using newsprint.
HTH's
Post by: krissel on August 10, 2003, 11:44:50 PM
Post by: kbeartx on August 11, 2003, 01:14:10 AM
I, too, have found from time to time that certain sites freeze my browser (IE 5.1, requiring a force-quit) or even crash my entire OS (9.2.2)!
If I really need to access the site, I try it in a different browser, more than one if necessary (I use IE 5.1 98% of the time, so I'll try Netscape 6.2 or Opera), and if neither of them work I fire up my emulated peasea (RealPC running Win98 with IE 5.0).
Recently I did encounter one site that would not function properly with any of the above, but I was able to boot into OS X (10.1.5) and use Netscape 7, which did work fine.
I have a theory about why this might be (involving the 'bastardized' MS-Java - don't get me started) but as I am not a programmer, I do not know if my theory is well-founded.
Don't hesitate to complain to the webmaster or the corporate entity that owns the site if you can't use their site on your computer.
Some website designers are too peasea-centric or too overworked or too lazy to test their site on any but the most common computers, and consequently don't even know that it doesn't work on many systems.
- kbeartx
Post by: Fiona on August 11, 2003, 08:48:03 AM
This is the url: http://www.globeandmail.com
I have tried it on OE 5.1 and Netscape 4.7 with the same results. I don't want to upgrade Netscape.
Actually, it may be the heat wave we're having. You need to travel more.
Post by: macdoug on August 11, 2003, 03:54:55 PM
Post by: kimmer on August 11, 2003, 04:29:30 PM
QUOTE(Fiona27 @ Aug 11 2003, 6:48 AM)
Having fun, boys? It is the best newspaper of the three.
This is the url: http://www.globeandmail.com
This is the url: http://www.globeandmail.com
Fiona, using Opera 6.02 in OS 10.1.5 I was able to open the page. I'm guessing it's all the javascripting on the page that is bumping into things with your browsers.
Not sure how to work around it so that you can at least contact them and tell them what is happening.
kimmer
Post by: Gary S on August 11, 2003, 04:37:14 PM
Post by: pendragon on August 11, 2003, 04:52:23 PM
Harv
Post by: Xairbusdriver on August 11, 2003, 05:41:27 PM
Anyway, loaded fine on IE 5.1.3, OS 9.1 (with or without javascript enabled). I'd say it may be that their browser sniffer doesn't like what yours is telling it. But the surprising part of it was that they think the Mac has a time/day bug! Looks like they add a day (in seconds) to the expiration date for the cookies they set. Seems like a waste of bandwidth to me.
And they have a rather large page to send! No telling how long it would take on a dial-up! Takes about 8 seconds on cable!
Mostly small gif's (not sure about some of the ads, got many of them blocked).You might try increasing the cache size and even the memory allocated to your browser(s). Your version of NS will miss most of the CSS stuff, certainly the imported parts, no telling what the page(s) would look like in it.
A note to the webmaster might even help. They might tell you why they are doing certain things and what they want from the browser.
Sorry about the earlier post, some say I should stop leaving the cockpit windows open at 30,000 feet...
Jim C.
Post by: Fiona on August 11, 2003, 07:09:46 PM
Maybe I'll just walk across the street and buy a Globe and Mail at the convenience store.
Post by: kelly on August 11, 2003, 07:26:10 PM
See if you can read it with JavaScript disabled in IE.
It might not crash that way.
Post by: Fiona on August 11, 2003, 08:56:29 PM
How do I go about doing that, Kelly?
airbusdriver:
The Globe and Mail is 'flashy' online? I remember it as being conservative on paper. The webmaster must be a young guy. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on August 11, 2003, 09:22:35 PM
To disable javascript (not Java), select "Preferences" in the Edit menu. Then open the "Web Browser" tab. Now on 'Web Content.' The bottom pane has choices for 'Active Content.' "Enable scripting" is M$'s nod to javascript.
BTW, I disable 'ActiveX' since I can't imagine it being Mac friendly, much less Mac usable!
"Java" (the language) is easier to find in the prefs. But it is not the same a javascript which is what some are suggesting may be your problem. However, having it enabled did not cause problems for my set up (IE 5.1.3/OS 9.1).
Sure hope you can get to the papers site. Perhaps you will find some correct spellings there for some common words like color, humor, etc.!
Jim C.
Post by: Fiona on August 11, 2003, 09:57:03 PM
Can you spell British Influence?
Thanks for the tips. I'll try them in the morning when I'm as awake as I ever get.
Post by: Xairbusdriver on August 12, 2003, 11:27:05 AM
Of course, we had a little of that 'down' here, also!
And my wife would move to England if she could figure out how to make a living there (I hear there are some there who have the same question!).I suspect your 'drowsiness' comes from drinking too much tea! Must break that 'island' habit! Go directly to coffee, do not add cream (sugar is also great for a quick energy boost!). You may want to make it as they do in much of Europe - keep boiling it until it is like a syrup and then add back a little water! But what do I know, I drink instant with fake hazelnut flavoring (helps kill the taste!)!
Jim C.
Post by: Fiona on August 12, 2003, 03:24:44 PM
Tea, no, not me. It has to be Nabob, perked, strong, milk with 1% cream. My kids always knew that the best time to ask me for something was before I had my coffee. 'Can I fly to the moon?' Uh huh was my answer. Actually, on some days I was serious.
Your coffee sounds horrible.
Since we are way off topic: Apple, Macintosh to all and to all a good day.
