Post by: george on September 06, 2003, 02:56:59 PM
Any help would be much appreciated.
George.
ps.
can this be done i ask myself?
Post by: kelly on September 06, 2003, 08:49:57 PM
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G3-ZONE/IDE/
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G3-ZONE/
Do you have room? Or are you removing a Drive?
Post by: Gary S on September 06, 2003, 10:19:28 PM
Post by: Mrious_be on September 07, 2003, 05:02:14 AM
If you are able to, i would recommend a Western Digital, as it's muchhhhhh more silent than the original Maxtor i had.
If you are thinking of installing OsX.2, than i would also suggest taking notice of enough Ram memory.
At least 256Mb but 512 is certainly a must (on slower machines).
Post by: george on September 07, 2003, 02:52:51 PM
If this is so can I then install OS X 10.2 plus Classic on the newly formatted drive?
George.
Post by: Mrious_be on September 08, 2003, 12:30:41 PM
Don't worry, the 7200 rpm Maxtor is probably more silent than the original 5400 rpm disk you have in there now
You shouldn't find any problems installing OsX and Os9 on that drive after whiping it with the Os9.2.9 Disk Utility.
Just make sure you put the divers on that disk for Mac Extended (i think it was called).
The best thing is, install the drive (watch the jumpers settings) in the second bay from your G3, than insert an OsX CD and boot from CD.
Than whipe the new drive, and use the Disk Utility from OsX... this way you can't do anything wrong.
Others might have other suggestions
Good luck
Post by: kelly on September 08, 2003, 12:57:19 PM
Jaguar must be on the first 8 Gigs or so.
See these.
http://www.techsurvivors.net/forums/index....&f=1&t=2988&hl=
http://www.techsurvivors.net/forums/index....&f=1&t=3022&hl=
Post by: george on September 10, 2003, 10:48:33 AM
George.
ps,
for the links Kelly.
Post by: kelly on September 10, 2003, 11:05:41 AM
"You can only boot OS X from a "master" drive in the beige G3. This applies to hard drives and CD-ROM drives. If the CD-ROM is set to slave, you will not be able to install OS X. If the hard drive is set to slave, you will not be able to boot from it.
Non-Apple upgrades and peripherals (such as unsupported USB devices, replacement drives, and third-party memory) may cause problems when installing or booting into Mac OS X."
http://new.lowendmac.com/ppc/g3b.shtml
Try to make it as much like the original machine as possible. Pull any added stuff.
Wait for KBear to reply?
Post by: george on September 10, 2003, 12:48:13 PM
George.
Post by: george on September 12, 2003, 12:49:30 PM
Then reinstalled the Maxtor back into G3, sadly it is not recognised except that it is registers in system profile when using OS 9.2.2. Heeeeelp!
George.
Post by: Gary S on September 12, 2003, 01:13:44 PM
I wish I had some advice to help you.
I have a Beige G3 but I never installed OS X or 10.2 on it.
Maybe kbear will have some more suggestions.
Good luck getting it installed.
Post by: Mrious_be on September 12, 2003, 02:20:41 PM
I can only find this, and i'm not sure if it helps:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58374
Better wait till others have something more to say George.
Or start a new topic
Post by: Al on September 13, 2003, 06:25:07 AM
Partition the drive, it will make for ease of pain.
Try this partition sceme.
7.5GB 1st partition for OS 10.2 install, or make it even smaller if you like, but not larger.
2.5GB 2nd partition for OS 9 install
10 GB for programs
10GB for documents
The last two are preference, it really is up to you how big or small you want those two.
You will not need any other special software like X-Post Factor or such to install Jaguar on a Beige.
There is no firmware upgrade for the Beige G3 to install OS X. The firmware upgrade mentioned by Marcel is for the Blue and White G3.
You can not install Jaguar on the drive on another computer (your G4) and then run it from your beige, it (OS X installer) will configure OS X system for that specific computer and it's hardware.
Make sure you have the drives jumper settings at Master, not master/single or slave. What model Maxtor hard drive do you have? On their web site you should be able to find the schematics for the jumper setting, but it should have come with the drive too.
http://www.maxtor.com/en/support/products/...sktop/index.htm
Good luck.
Post by: george on September 13, 2003, 02:05:41 PM
Kelly,
TO
Mrious be,
TO
Gary S,
TO
Al,
and other TSers to numerous to list, AT LAST I now have OX 10.2.6 up and running on my beige G3.
Grateful George
ps
sting in the tail in that somewhere along the line I've neglected to check the appropriate box to include Classic.
Is it too late to do this?
Post by: Mrious_be on September 13, 2003, 02:58:20 PM
QUOTE(Al @ Sep 13 2003, 1:25 PM)
Try this partition sceme.
7.5GB 1st partition for OS 10.2 install, or make it even smaller if you like, but not larger.
2.5GB 2nd partition for OS 9 install
10 GB for programs
10GB for documents...
7.5GB 1st partition for OS 10.2 install, or make it even smaller if you like, but not larger.
2.5GB 2nd partition for OS 9 install
10 GB for programs
10GB for documents...
Hmmm, maybe i good thing that i'm a few thousands miles from Al now, cause i have to disagree with this one
While Os9 does liked partitions, it seems OsX doesn't like it... or at least, the bigger space you give on OsX, the smoother it runs.
It has something to do with the use of ram and i don't really know, but that's what i read.
Sorry Al... but than again, you can come over and kick me, just let me know when and i'll come to pick you ut (i'll bring a good belgian beer).
Post by: Al on September 13, 2003, 06:33:08 PM
QUOTE(Mrious_be @ Sep 13 2003, 9:58 AM)
QUOTE(Al @ Sep 13 2003, 1:25 PM)
Try this partition sceme.
7.5GB 1st partition for OS 10.2 install, or make it even smaller if you like, but not larger.
2.5GB 2nd partition for OS 9 install
10 GB for programs
10GB for documents...
7.5GB 1st partition for OS 10.2 install, or make it even smaller if you like, but not larger.
2.5GB 2nd partition for OS 9 install
10 GB for programs
10GB for documents...
Hmmm, maybe i good thing that i'm a few thousands miles from Al now, cause i have to disagree with this one
While Os9 does liked partitions, it seems OsX doesn't like it... or at least, the bigger space you give on OsX, the smoother it runs.
It has something to do with the use of ram and i don't really know, but that's what i read.
Sorry Al... but than again, you can come over and kick me, just let me know when and i'll come to pick you ut (i'll bring a good belgian beer).
The reason that OS X only has 7.5GB's is that there is some restriction in the beige architecture that doesn't allow X to boot (or even install for that matter) if it is not within the first 8GB's and in most cases that is realistically 7.5GB's. But, I will take a shot at that Belgian beer!
George, glad you got Jaguar running. Hope you enjoy it. If you have installed OS 9 somewhere on your drive, you should be able to select it as your Classic OS in your 9 Classic preference panel in System Preferences.
Post by: Mrious_be on September 14, 2003, 04:35:10 AM
QUOTE(Al @ Sep 14 2003, 1:33 AM)
But, I will take a shot at that Belgian beer!
Oh nooo Al, you aren't getting off that easy.... you'll HAVE to come to Belgium for it
Than i might buy you more than one.... i just might