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Archives => 2003 => Topic started by: krissel on September 18, 2003, 04:43:25 AM

Title: Speed of animations
Post by: krissel on September 18, 2003, 04:43:25 AM
Highmac mentions in this thread, referring to the birthday banner, that it moves too fast for him to read on his iMac.

I know animations do tend to move faster on speedier processors but that leads me to question just how much difference there might be among various systems (9 or X), video cards, internet connection type, etc.

As most of you know, when you make an animation you assign a certain amount of time in seconds or parts of a second for each frame. In the birthday banner the initial frame is .5 second, then the fuse frames are mostly .1 second, the next to last two text frames .5 and the final text frame is set for 2.5 seconds. Total time is between 5-6 seconds for me on the internet but nearly 9 seconds when run within ImageReady on my machine (9600/G4 700mhz, 32MB MacED Radeon, OS 9.1).

How does it run on your machine?
Can you read it OK? Too fast/slow?
And what processor, video card, etc. do you have?
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: Highmac on September 18, 2003, 06:31:31 AM
Just to fill in the gaps.... iMac DV-SE (graphite), 640MB Ram - otherwise standard, OS9.1, dial-up usually connects around 46kps (sp?).
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: pendragon on September 18, 2003, 07:10:16 AM
From fuse lighting to full display is ~ 3.5 seconds on a DP 800, 1.25 GB RAM, Safari 1.0(v85), Comcast Cable.

BTW, Is it really true that Inspector Clouseau's screen name is Bernie? whistling.gif

Harv
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: Paul.Tait on September 18, 2003, 07:40:38 AM
5 seconds (from fuse lighting to full display).

G4 800MHz, 768 MB, 9.2.2.
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: Paul.Tait on September 18, 2003, 07:43:07 AM
Sorry forgot  blush-anim-cl.gif  2 channel ISDN connection.
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: jb on September 18, 2003, 07:48:43 AM
As usual, Grrreat Banner!

- From fuse lighting to Greetings, ~2.8 secs.
- Greetings stays on for ~2.5 secs.

4400, L2/G3/350(320)/1M,
144MB RAM,
ATI Rage Pro 16MB card,
Cable Modem,
OS 9.0.4.

jb
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: Diana on September 18, 2003, 08:06:03 AM
Hi Krissel,

Using a system clock on the Linux desktop that shows seconds.

Desktop - 1 GHz AMD Athlon Thunderbird, 512 Megs RAM
Linux, Mozilla 1.5/Konqueror 3.1-13
Dial-up modem 49.2kbps currently.

Desktop - Dual 1 GHz PPC 512 Megs RAM
OS X.2.6.3, Safari

Laptop - 1.5 Pentium 4, 512 Megs RAM
WinXP, IE 6/Firebird 0.6
same dial-up.

WinXP machine is actually a gateway so the laptop and the two desktops are connected through the same modem.

All five browsers open and running at the same time produce a very interesting result to me..smile.gif

The animation is approximately 4 to 4.5 seconds long in total length, with good timing of presentation throughout in all five browsers. I can't tell any difference at all, nada. The timing is pleasant and not a bother to me. I figured there would be a difference given the info already provided by others. I suppose that all three of my machines have similar CPU/RAM configs so this would explain the similarity of presentation.

To flesh this out, I kicked Hubby off his computer and ran the browser.
Laptop 2.4Ghz Pentium 4, 512 Megs RAM
WinXP, IE-6
dialup connection on his own line, no sharing, connects about 28.8 to 32.6.(never faster) The animation is still the same..no difference.

see ya
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: beacher on September 18, 2003, 11:47:27 AM
4 seconds, start to finish. . .cbl modem, 733 G4, using Safari w/Jaguar. biggrin.gif
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: Paul.Tait on September 18, 2003, 11:55:17 AM
Hold everything! Having quit Photoshop, Quark, Illustrator etc. etc. it's now down to 2.5 seconds. Having seen the other times posted, I was about to start a new topic 'Why is my Mac so slooowwwww'? Now I know why.  biggrin.gif
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: ljocampo on September 18, 2003, 12:06:55 PM
I clocked it at just under 4 seconds using  533MHz G4 Digital Audio / 1.5GB RAM / OS X 10.2.6 / 9000 Radeon Pro / Adelphia Cable 1.5Mbps / and Sarfari (v85).

Seems to be just right for me.    smile.gif
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: Bill on September 18, 2003, 01:09:26 PM
Looks and the speed is just fine krissel.
Bet it took you more than a few minutes too put that nice piece of work together. biggrin.gif
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: Gary S on September 18, 2003, 02:27:39 PM
About 3 seconds......G4933-OS10.26......Cable modem at aroung 800bps.

i like the banner Kris! biggrin.gif
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: kps on September 19, 2003, 01:03:30 AM
3.5sec according to my trusty stopwatch on a 350MHz G4 Sawtooth 768MB RAM, Safari,   ADSL connection.

Great banner, BTW.
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: RHPConsult on September 19, 2003, 01:23:34 AM
Ms. K:

Back home again. Failed to make an accurate measure earlier today of Pismo/10.2.6, on NS 7.1 dial-up to Santa Barbara.

Howsomever, with the same box at home on DSL (using a "cerebral" stopwatch) + NS 7.1

• fuse lit to explosion = 2.5 secs
• greeting display = 2.0 secs

Switching to Safari 1.0 (v 85), the on ly change noted is in the "greeting" which is a tad longer than int NS, now 3 secs, i.e. some more prolonged than the fuse et al.

Not too fast; not too slow! Juuuust right!

 thanx.gif    and    clap.gif    and    thumbup.gif
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: Highmac on September 19, 2003, 01:56:38 AM
Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice....

Didn't get on the Mac last night but it's now 7.45am Fri (UK) and banner space is coming up with a little red button with a white cross.
When I started up it was doing the same as yesterday morning. The fuse ran, then the explosion AND the greeting (now knowing what I was looking for helped) in an unmeasurable fraction of a second, then back to the fuse. Hit refresh and now I'm getting only the not-found button. The only other programs I'm running are launcher and remote access status.
The office PC, running IE 5.5, was also running QuarkXPress 3.3 for Windows and Lotus Notes. Could Paul have a point about other programs slowing it down? (Not being a techie, I may be talking garbage here, so I'm open to being corrected).
PS: just noticed Diana's avatar is not being found either, so maybe some of my preferences are corrupted.... but which ones eek2.gif
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: jepinto on September 19, 2003, 06:15:51 AM
Kris:

I've pretty much found what you have, ±5 seconds while viewing in NS 7, using DSL, on iMac 333, 9.2.2.

When saved to hard drive and opened using ColorIt, the animation is slower by ±2 seconds.

Using IE5 it's a bit slower, 7 seconds, with the last fram lasting 2 seconds.
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: Highmac on September 19, 2003, 06:21:59 AM
Think it has to be my Mac.... now on office PC (12.15pm UK) and animation is working perfectly!
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: Russ Kidd on September 19, 2003, 07:49:11 PM
lighting fuse to full display:  ~3.25 sec.
full display remains for ~2.5 sec.

9600/350 mhz
128 MB RAM
IE5
56k dial-up (Global Village)

The speed is perfect.  I love it, Krissel.   smile.gif
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: krissel on September 19, 2003, 10:10:24 PM
Thanks everyone.

From what has been reported the only variable that seems to have a significant difference in speed is the internet connection. Those on cable or DSL have timings a  second or two faster. That makes sense and I guess if the animation were longer there would be more of a change and possibly bringing the other specs into consideration as well.

It is quite interesting to me that the animation run on the machine in an application takes longer than when run over the net. Perhaps that has something to do with what the application is programmed to do best. Later I'm going to see if allocating more memory to various programs runs the animation faster or not.

HighMac, the empty blocks with the X in it happens to me occassionally with IE and in fact did so tonight. I usually go to Prefs, empty the cache, quit the browser and when I start again, all is OK.
And get this, last night while reading one of the threads I noticed the banner loading just as you described it the first time you saw it, the text going so fast you couldn't read it. Reloading that page didn't help but quitting that  window and going back to the main forum got the normal speed. Really weird.
 wacko.gif
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: Highmac on September 20, 2003, 12:11:09 AM
Guess what.... just emptied the cache as you suggested.... and now animation is running beautifully blush-anim-cl.gif  .  I'd always assumed that setting Update Pages to 'always' meant the cache was cleared automatically since they are on the same panel. Obviously NOT the case. I've learned a bit more from TS. Thanks
Title: Speed of animations
Post by: sandbox on September 20, 2003, 12:54:13 AM
G3 MT 282 jumped
IE 5
Earthlink DSL
average 3.3 seconds over 10 tests